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18. Août 2004, 00:32:28
grenv 
This is a win in 3 for white I think. I won't say how though :)

18. Août 2004, 09:25:44
redsales 
we call it Siamese Chess with 2 players

19. Août 2004, 02:47:50
WakeUpPeople 
Sujet: some bug
I was browsing some boards and wanted to look at that game, then wanted to look at the opening and I can see only empty board when trying to go backward to plies 33 and prior (whites 17th move). May be it has something to do with the way Fencer stores game data in the database, may be he just allocated too small space for atomic chess games expecting them to be fast. (when I wrote this last ply index was 107)

19. Août 2004, 02:49:07
WakeUpPeople 
heh, wrong idea, the moves obviously are in database, just game browser somehow cant cope with that, I go get some sleep better :)

19. Août 2004, 03:12:17
grenv 
Actually i think the data does dissappear from the database. Not sure why, but this happens for virtually every game.

19. Août 2004, 04:34:05
PowerPygmie 
Sujet: Huh
And all this time, I thought Chess was a Bughouse variation...

19. Août 2004, 04:41:45
ughaibu 
It's quite different from bughouse as the pieces remain constant unless there are promotions.

30. Août 2004, 14:17:38
Fencer 
No castling is allowed in this game. I will fix the rules ASAP.

19. Septembre 2004, 20:13:40
[Del] 
Sujet: Problem
I have got a small problem.
White: Ke1; Qd2
Black: Kc3
Black to move.
So what do you think? Is it Patt?

19. Septembre 2004, 21:35:00
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Re: Problem
Since the black king can get close to the white king, and just chase him around from then on (preventing the queen from blowing him up because the white king would go in the process)... I think it's a draw.

19. Septembre 2004, 21:37:28
grenv 
In this particular position white wins since black cannot move next to the white king on this turn.
e.g.
... Kc4
Qd3 Kc5 etc...

19. Septembre 2004, 23:10:37
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Sorry
... somehow, on the my diagram I had placed the queen at d1 and not d2 as BFG stated. I must agree with grenv then. Sorry for the confusion.

19. Septembre 2004, 23:21:22
[Del] 
Sujet: addition to Problem
Well, I think a different way. If the black king would beat the white queen, both kings would be removed. So for me it's a special constelation, in which the King could beat a figur. Im not sure if the king isn't allowed to beat a figur, because he would be also removed, or he isn't able to beat.

Are there any official rules of atomic?

19. Septembre 2004, 23:53:58
grenv 
official rules? who knows if there are any. What would make them official?

I didn't understand what beating a figur is, but the king cannot capture anything on this site, therefore white wins.

You could create a rule that says if both kings are exploded it's a draw, but that isn't the case here.

20. Septembre 2004, 00:04:56
[Del] 
Sujet: Re:
Well, both Kings would explode if the black King would capture (sorry, I didn't remember) the white Queen

20. Septembre 2004, 00:11:01
grenv 
As I said, on this site that is impossible, KxQ would not be allowed.

The only rule that seems different at other sites is stalemate, which is impossible here. Anyway this wouldn't come under that category.

21. Septembre 2004, 10:45:18
redsales 
stalemate is possible, though unlikely. Eg white king on b2, Black king on a2, queen on b1, another queen somewhere. White to move, if white moves to a1 and black moves the other queen to b2, white is stalemated. Black would have to be pretty dense to do that though!

21. Septembre 2004, 14:58:48
grenv 
There is no stalemate in Atomic Chess on this site. In your example white would be forced to move into check.

21. Septembre 2004, 18:21:26
redsales 
but white can't physically move..! how would that work then? auto pass? :)

21. Septembre 2004, 18:44:02
grenv 
oops, sorry. You're right I didn't look carefully enough at your numbers. This should be stalemate, but who knows how it would work.

23. Septembre 2004, 02:43:11
redsales 
wanna try in an unrated game? :)

26. Septembre 2004, 14:14:19
WhisperzQ 
White deserves a draw for stupidity on the part of black LOL

26. Septembre 2004, 23:19:39
coan.net 
modifié par coan.net (27. Septembre 2004, 00:33:53)
Quick question - if I DO NOT put the Maharajah piece into check, and they (Maharajah piece) DOES NOT have any valid moves - is it a win for me, or a draw?

*Edited to add "Maharajah piece" next to they

27. Septembre 2004, 00:25:51
pauloaguia 
when you mean they: the black or the white?
If the white can't move I think it's stalemate. So a draw.
If the black can't move... can this even happen?

27. Septembre 2004, 00:37:23
coan.net 
Sorry, thought it was clear. Edited previous message to add "(Maharajah piece)" next to they so hopefully it would be more clear.

27. Septembre 2004, 02:49:54
coan.net 
Sujet: Capture question
A pawn can go two spaces diagonally on it's first move.

Can it capture a piece doing this?

For example if white had a piece on E5, could black take a pawn from G7 to capture the piece on E5?

27. Septembre 2004, 04:31:09
ArnieTxx 
Sujet: Re: Capture question
Pawns in Berolina Chess only capture vertically.
A 2-square diagonal move by one of them the first
time it moves cannot be a capture.

27. Septembre 2004, 06:29:52
Kevin 
modifié par Kevin (27. Septembre 2004, 06:30:07)
sure - black can't move if only two pieces are on the board:

black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move.

27. Septembre 2004, 06:31:12
Kevin 
It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc."

27. Septembre 2004, 12:29:34
Chessmaster1000 
Sujet: Re:
modifié par Chessmaster1000 (27. Septembre 2004, 12:31:03)
<>It says in the rules: "...the game is finished if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, >one player is in a stalemate, etc."

OK the game is finished but how??? With what result? Your copied text is incomplete and incapable of explaining the compete rules. You should have added:

The game is finished WITH THE SAME RESULT AS IN CHESS if the Maharajah or the king is in a checkmate, one player is in a stalemate, etc.

27. Septembre 2004, 19:02:29
Pafl 
It is actually a good strategy for white to try and get "into" the black's position, hoping for a stalemate :-)

27. Septembre 2004, 21:07:23
pauloaguia 
"black King on A1
white Majarajah on B3

black to move."

This isn't stalemate... White just checkmated black by placing the maharajah at that position. So it's not black's turn: a win as already been accomplished.

28. Septembre 2004, 05:58:29
Kevin 
Whoops - I meant maharajah on B4 :-)

1. Octobre 2004, 02:04:59
BuilderQ 
Sujet: Amazon is H?
Why, in the notation, is an amazon represented by a letter "H"?

1. Octobre 2004, 10:40:53
Fencer 
Eeeew, it should be something else. A, maybe?

1. Octobre 2004, 17:35:56
Bobes 
Sujet: Tournament final
I play final match in the tournament and it's 3 wins match. I started with black ... so this is, teoretically, loss for me. Is there way how to solve this problem?

1. Octobre 2004, 17:54:08
Kevin 
Win or draw as black? :-)

2. Octobre 2004, 07:18:06
CardinalFlight 
How about Z for amazon?

2. Octobre 2004, 07:24:53
Kevin 
A is Archbishop in Gothic Chess. I think there should be some distinction between them, considering they move differently...

3. Octobre 2004, 10:23:20
redsales 
i like Z too

3. Octobre 2004, 17:18:25
coan.net 
Do you know what would be a more fun "Maharajah" chess game?

Cylinder Maharajah Chess :-)

4. Octobre 2004, 12:13:12
Fencer 
Is it better now?

5. Octobre 2004, 04:34:46
Kevin 
Yes :-)

5. Octobre 2004, 12:22:01
rabbitoid 
Sujet: loop chess tournament
Any interrest in loop chess? a tournament will start next monday, provided enough people show up... click here

8. Octobre 2004, 00:56:10
BuilderQ 
Maybe Berolina Pawns should not look the same as regular pawns?

8. Octobre 2004, 08:06:36
Hrqls 
Sujet: pawn promotion
when a pawn reaches the other side of the board .. is it allowed to promote it to a pawn again ?

is this allowed with the last pawn on the board ?
would you lose if you promote your last pawn to a pawn ? (in theory there might be a short period during the promotion in which you have no pawn left ?)

8. Octobre 2004, 09:52:11
Fencer 
No.

8. Octobre 2004, 09:53:43
Fencer 
Why not?

8. Octobre 2004, 10:52:44
Hrqls 
ok thanks :)

8. Octobre 2004, 20:23:34
BuilderQ 
Because Berolina Pawns' different movement makes them different pieces which should not be confused with regular pawns. For example, this page shows a Berolina symbol.

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