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16. Mars 2005, 14:37:31
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: oh right we have no fisherboard yet ... :)
danoschek: Sorry I can't reply to your pm directly regarding this board as you have me on hide. I was going to sort of agree with you but now I can't and your stunt is not appreciated.

16. Mars 2005, 14:41:51
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: oh right we have no fisherboard yet ... :)
BTW as there is no Fischer Random Chess board (yet) discussion of this variant is also welcome here. [Fencer, if you read this, then maybe you could change the description to include it. Could also combine with Fortress Chess too, if you like, as they are all very similar.]

16. Mars 2005, 14:44:11
Mort 
From what I've seen Fencer has no intention of creating a board for Fisher chess. It's more likely that (from what I saw on BK board) he is going to shrink the smaller boards due to the low usage of them. If people want a Fisher Chess board that badly then it can be asked for either on the BK board or on Feature requests.

17. Mars 2005, 01:22:30
danoschek 
Sujet: ooops :D
settings changed ... ... - and I too think three
boards could go as one fisher/corner/fortress that is ...
last not least, avoiding chessfree bubbles,here a cornergame with a pure mate ... ~*~

17. Mars 2005, 07:34:51
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: Thanks ... and ...
You say this is a pure mate ... what do you mean by "pure"?

19. Mars 2005, 00:07:33
Nasmichael 
Sujet: Re: Redsales' proposal
modifié par Nasmichael (19. Mars 2005, 00:07:53)
redsales: " (To WhispersQ): The problem with this game is that it's really a training game to get the players to figure out the moves. It was not intended for FM-IM-GM class players!" Correct. It makes for good discussion between the veteran player (Maharajah) and the novice. It is still an entertaining idea, and more "uneven chess" like this makes for good teaching tools, solved or not.

20. Mars 2005, 11:12:53
SMIRF Engine 
Sujet: All Chess960 startpositions at one page
Hi all Chess960 friends,

the Chess Tigers have published a very compact summary consisting of two tables,
from which any of the 960 existing starting positions easyly could be derived.

It seems as if this page actually is available in German language only.

Go to http://www.chesstigers.de/index.php?id=4 (Chess960) an use the link

"zu den Startpositionen und Regeln ..."

Regards, Reinhard.

20. Mars 2005, 17:00:35
danoschek 
Sujet: Re: ooops :D
WhisperzQ: sorry I meant
'pure pattern' thanks for correcting ... ~*~

21. Mars 2005, 07:00:13
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: wasn't intended to be a correction as the the term "pure pattern" still has me puzzled too ... can you enlighten me?

21. Mars 2005, 20:20:04
danoschek 
Sujet: Re: ooops :D
WhisperzQ: eheh !
hard to explain ... don't you think this single knight
unveiling the weakness of joined forces is pure beauty ? .. ~*~

22. Mars 2005, 15:09:33
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: I think it is extremely insightful (and incisive) and beautiful too ... just thought it might have been a technical term which I hadn't come across before ... maybe others will have similar games (positions) to share :)

31. Mars 2005, 10:46:15
nabla 
Sujet: Some history
Just to make some facts straight : the game of Anti Chess, more often called Losing Chess or Suicide Chess, is more than 100 years old, and the rules used here are the standard ones. For some more details, here is an historical research by John Beasley : http://www.pion.ch/Losing/LCLIT3AR.html.
The game has been studied a lot, by hand and by computer. Here is an opening book which should avoid you a lot of early trouble : http://catalin.francu.com/nilatac/book.php.
My personal homepage has tons of information too, but available only in French language.

31. Mars 2005, 10:47:54
nabla 
Sujet: nabla
Hmm, the links below should read without a dot at the end, so http://www.pion.ch/Losing/LCLIT3AR.html and http://catalin.francu.com/nilatac/book.php

1. Avril 2005, 02:33:06
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re: nabla
nabla: If it is okay with you I will add the links to description above then they will always be available for those who are interested without going back through the discussion history ... okay?

Cheers WQ :)

4. Avril 2005, 10:48:49
imalowlevelplay 
Sujet: suicide chess links
are u too interested in suicide chess(aka antichess or vinciperdi)?great!
here are great links,take a look:
http://www.pion.ch/general/liens.php?norep=5 ( in french) translate with google
http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/ICGA/games/losingchess/start.html (though this one seems down,dont understand why)
http://www.matf.bg.ac.yu/~andrew/suicide/
http://www.acc.umu.se/~sanden/suicide/index.html

4. Avril 2005, 11:32:32
sdf 
Sujet: links

5. Avril 2005, 07:04:38
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:05:10
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:05:25
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:05:40
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:05:54
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:06:07
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:06:29
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:07:47
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:08:00
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:08:12
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:09:12
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:09:34
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:10:05
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:11:31
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Avril 2005, 07:17:31
Walter Montego 
Sujet: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
modifié par Walter Montego (5. Avril 2005, 07:36:16)
Andromedical: Or if he does, he doesn't play it on this site. I have asked him to play at various times and he's turned me down by not responding. Perhaps you should have the tournament games in games that he actually plays on this site?
I know that him and quite a few other regular Chess, Gothic Chess, and Janus Chess players have no problem or would have no problem beating me at those games, but I hold my own against them in Dark Chess.

5. Avril 2005, 12:45:55
grenv 
Sujet: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
Walter Montego: He doesn't play dark chess for the simple reason that he couldn't possibly win every game.

6. Avril 2005, 20:29:59
Kili 
The reason is easy: there is not a software machine for playing dark chess.

6. Avril 2005, 20:34:32
grenv 
Sujet: Re:
Matarilevich: lol. There could be, though it would be a lot more difficult to program well!

6. Avril 2005, 20:45:46
Walter Montego 
Sujet: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
grenv: Ain't that the truth? This fear of losing is making him not try new games. It's a shame in a way. As smart as he is preported to be, we'd really have our hands full if he got good at Dark Chess. There's no way around it though, even if you are good you will lose games. I've lost some to people who were just learning the game. And while you're learning the game, it's a given that you'll take some lumps and lose a few too. Maybe after Alex wins that marathon Chess game between them the burden will be off and he can branch out and try some new things.

8. Avril 2005, 09:26:57
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
modifié par PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 (8. Avril 2005, 09:27:15)
Unfortunately Mr. Trice refused to play in the tournament. He limits himself to chess variants in which he can win 100% of the time.

11. Avril 2005, 14:34:35
nabla 
Sujet: Re: nabla
WhisperzQ: Sure, no problem ! There was also a very fine endgame database server (up to 4 pieces) by Lenny Taelman, but this one went down recently :-(

11. Avril 2005, 20:00:20
Thad 
Sujet: Re: nabla
nabla: Yes, I believe it was here. Does anyone know if there is another version around anywhere?

11. Avril 2005, 21:37:26
mangue 
The website of nabla contains valuable resource for antichess and do not miss his delicious Antichess exercices :-)

http://www.pion.ch/Losing/endex.html

12. Avril 2005, 14:14:14
WhisperzQ 
Sujet: Re:
I didn't realise this was your site Nabla ... I will add it above with a reference to the "home" page for AntiChess. Unfortunately for me it is in French (I will have to get my daughter to translate LOL).

17. Avril 2005, 09:45:29
SMIRF Engine 
Sujet: Huge response for the first Chess960 Computer World Championship
Hi friends of real chess programming!

In a very interesting article (German language) from the Frankfurt Chess Tigers
you can learn that there are already 20 participants. Thus it will be an event
huge and relevant for chess programming in August 2005, where the engines will
have o calculate from the beginning, not where a huge opening library might end.

See article at: http://www.chesstigers.de/ from 2005-04-17.

Reinhard.

17. Avril 2005, 11:28:32
SMIRF Engine 
Sujet: Chess960 positions and rules condensed
modifié par SMIRF Engine (17. Avril 2005, 11:30:06)
Hi Chess960 friends,

again I point to the fine PDF document from the Frankfurt Chess Tigers.
You can find and download the PDF document (in German language) from the very
interesting Chess Tigers' home site at: http://www.chesstigers.de/download.php
( please search there for the link: Chess960 Startpositionen und Regeln ).

Regards, Reinhard.

28. Avril 2005, 09:57:31
Bruce 
Sujet: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Do you know anybody PGN viewer for replay PGN files from LOOP CHESS ! I try classical PGN viewer, but there cannot replay notation e.g. 13. B@d6 B@e7 ... Thanks

28. Avril 2005, 10:03:34
Luke Skywalker 
Sujet: Re: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Bruce: Try Winboard http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html or look at freechess.org for other interfaces to the chess server.

28. Avril 2005, 10:23:09
Bruce 
Sujet: Re: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Luke Skywalker: It´s OK :-) Thanks

28. Avril 2005, 16:01:51
nabla 
I vote that Ra5-a5 is a perfectly legitimate Cylinder Chess move. Do we know whether BK allows it ?

28. Avril 2005, 17:07:14
Caissus 
modifié par Caissus (28. Avril 2005, 17:07:48)
Interface "Babaschess" is able to replay crazyhouse/loopchess pgn-games,but you have to change a little bit the pgnformat.
http://www.babaschess.net

28. Avril 2005, 20:28:59
Expired 
Sujet: Re:
nabla: It doesn't. I think it's not a nice move either. to me a 'move' has to be with some sort of a change in the board.

28. Avril 2005, 20:49:19
Luke Skywalker 
Sujet: Re: Re:
reza: I agree

29. Avril 2005, 13:08:35
Luke Skywalker 
Sujet: Ra5-a5
Another reason why this should not be allowed:
A "move" is not the action of a piece travelling, but the action of putting a piece on a free square (or occupied by opponent, but that doesn't apply here). Since a5 is occupied, the R can't move there

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