BrainKing - Klobe na mloveni (Chess variants (8x8))

O čem je toďten plk: Re: the shape of pawns

In my opinion, the rose border around the board already indicates that this game is quite different from regular chess. Changing the shape of the pawns is not really necessary.

9. řína 2004, 08:44:46

Nothing will be changed.

18. řína 2004, 01:16:16

Bobes

Kevin: Thanks *;)

23. řína 2004, 01:38:36

BuilderQ

Stalemates must be quite common. According to the games rules page, 10.42 % of games end in draws. Strange in such an unbalanced game...

23. řína 2004, 13:29:04

pauloaguia

a draw can be agreed upon...
doesn't necessarily have to be a stalemate

23. řína 2004, 22:59:58

O čem je toďten plk: Bug in pawn capture

In this game, http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=482245, my pawn on h6 can't move. All of my other pieces with legal moves are clickable links, but this one is just a non-clickable image. It might be related to the fact that I can capture into the a column with that pawn.

23. řína 2004, 23:25:50

ArnieTxx

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Bug in pawn capture

I don't see any legal move for your h6-pawn. In fact, h5 is occupied, while a5 and g5 are both vacant. This prevents the pawn from moving forward or making a capture.

24. řína 2004, 01:22:44

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Bug in pawn capture

I was reading the letters as if I was white. It's my A6 pawn that I want to move, not the H6. Sorry about that.

24. řína 2004, 01:39:07

Pafl

Troy: The pawn cannot move because its move would expose your king to the check by the white bishop. These things are often not spotted in cylinder chess :-)

24. řína 2004, 17:41:23

So it would. Thanks for pointing that out.

25. řína 2004, 14:08:59

515484

O čem je toďten plk: opening book

Does someone know where I can find an opening book of loop chess (crazyhouse, Transferschach, or what it is called *;) )?

Thanks!
I have not found anything in the web...

26. řína 2004, 16:27:49

andreas

O čem je toďten plk: Re: opening book

There is a binary openning book for Sjeng engine (about 300Kb). I think it is compiled from a collection of Crazyhouse games played at FICS.

26. řína 2004, 17:27:05

O čem je toďten plk: my first experiences

i played some games in amazon chess and at first it seems to be mostly similar to chess (because most of my opponents wanted to exchange the amazons).
but against bratr i played the first game in which i really noticed the power of the amazons - with a funny mate! http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=491106

26. řína 2004, 18:16:56

O čem je toďten plk: Rook-Ending

Přetvořeny oževatelem Caissus (26. řína 2004, 22:08:36)

It is incredible, but this position with the rook/king vs. king ending is draw!

http://brainking.com/game/ShowG
ame?g=4
90665

We have to verify all elementary endings!

26. řína 2004, 19:37:03

Kevin

http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=490665

27. řína 2004, 08:06:57

Hell, does it work or not?

http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=4906
65

27. řína 2004, 08:07:08

Aha. A bug.

27. řína 2004, 20:13:01

BuilderQ

It's good to see the Q+B outside of maha chess.

28. řína 2004, 10:55:09

harley

HOME fellowship needs a player for cylinder chess so we can join the team tournement. Just ONE player! There must be someone who wants to join the tournament?!

28. řína 2004, 13:31:34

Blizzards fellowship has the same request :-D

28. řína 2004, 19:38:58

Nothingness

O čem je toďten plk: more horde

personally i think that black shoudl get to start 2 more files of pawn up farther. evening things out. blacks pawns are jsut to slow in this game. there always 1-2 tempos behind. i think that the added 2 advanced files will even out things.

29. řína 2004, 17:06:46

O čem je toďten plk: En passant capture bug

I tried to make an en passant capture in http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=502536&i=22. It sort of worked. My pawn went forward instead of diagonally, but my opponent still has his pawn.

29. řína 2004, 17:59:35

coan.net

O čem je toďten plk: Re: En passant capture bug

Yup, looks like a bug to me (opponents pawn should have been removed).

Fencer should be able to fix it. You may want to send Fencer a message, or post about it in the Bug Tracker since I don't think Fencer reads all the boards every day.

30. řína 2004, 18:38:38

Anencephal

If this is an ancient variant then its rules should be different. I don't know how was ancient indian chess but with old western chess rules I think this variant is more balanced.
The problem is black can proceed without giving any hole in its position. With old rules black has two holes (b7 and g7) at first and moving ahead without giving a hole to white needs ultimate cooperation of pieces.
I think the crowned chicken has real chances of survival , give it the power of modern Bishop also, then it will be a dragon :)

30. řína 2004, 20:29:57

Please post it to the Bug Tracker if it's not already there.

31. řína 2004, 07:02:36

Kevin

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Cylinder Majarajah Chess

Sorry for the late reply, but I just noticed that post :-)

The immediate problem with that game is this: The only reason the maharajah can mate itself is because of the presence of corners. Without corners, that possibility disappears (in other words, the maharajah cannot checkmate on a cylinder) :-)

1. lestopado 2004, 14:59:53

bwildman

O čem je toďten plk: Re: my first experiences

the single mate is a dangerous feature.
look here

1. lestopado 2004, 17:05:29

O čem je toďten plk: one player for fomento-beraun club team needed

please! with one more player in the fomento-beraun club team the cylinder chess team tournament can start! so please join our fellowship and our team!

1. lestopado 2004, 17:20:25

In Cylinderchess many games start with b3 or/and g3,with the developing of the bishops and it seems that the best place for the king is in the middle,without castling. Comments?

1. lestopado 2004, 17:33:11

O čem je toďten plk: Re: flank openings, castling

yes caissus. it seems that castling is not necessary in cylinder.
i saw some opponents opening with Na6/Nh6 - blocking bishop's lines a1-h6 and f1-a6.

1. lestopado 2004, 18:22:45

Indeed, since there are no edges, castling is not the same advantage. In fact the rooks start connected, so castling doesn't even achieve that.

There are really no center squares either so tactics are much different than regular chess.

1. lestopado 2004, 18:24:56

Also interesting is the image of eternal rotating rook between a1 and h1 if there are no other pieces. Rotating without limitation! Nice :-)

1. lestopado 2004, 18:35:38

O čem je toďten plk: double piece attack

in one of my game against caissus (after 18. move of my opponent) i fall in a nice trap of douple piece attack (attacking my bishop b7 by the opponent's rook at h7 and threating mate at h7) - nice!

1. lestopado 2004, 19:40:39

since you moved already I think 18...Ba6 was best.

1. lestopado 2004, 19:41:35

O čem je toďten plk: Re:

oh, of course, you are right!

1. lestopado 2004, 19:46:21

i miss that more than anything, the old pawn protection from edge to edge. :)

1. lestopado 2004, 19:48:14

O čem je toďten plk: Re:

slowly i am getting the feeling of the threatments of bishops over the edge, but not the pawns, yes, i often forget it! by the way: what about endgames in cylinder chess? can a queen only mate (suppose yes), rook (suppose no).

1. lestopado 2004, 19:50:04

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Re:

I have had an ending with king/rook (me) vs king and it was only draw :-(

1. lestopado 2004, 19:50:52

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Re:

but 2 rooks shoud win ;-)

1. lestopado 2004, 19:51:37

O čem je toďten plk: Re: Re:

and three ..:-)?

1. lestopado 2004, 19:53:20

LOL. because no force to the edge. I'm not convinced a king queen vs king is a forced win either for that matter.

1. lestopado 2004, 19:55:22

I take that back. You can edge the king over on the back rank with the queen until he's close enough to the king to force mate. I think.

1. lestopado 2004, 20:00:58

O čem je toďten plk: Re:

mating with queen is possible. you have to prevent the king going out over the edge. but i think, it makes the time to mate only longer. until the opponent's king is not at the last or first horizontal line he can escape one line back at the other side, ok.

2. lestopado 2004, 17:26:07

O čem je toďten plk: En passant capture bug

I did. Number 186. Can you also fix the game, or do I need to play on down a pawn?

3. lestopado 2004, 09:35:38

I'll fix it soon.

3. lestopado 2004, 15:19:21

redsales

i think mate is possible with correct zugzwang..but not sure..

3. lestopado 2004, 16:13:20

O čem je toďten plk: draw king+rook-king

In my game against FriendJosh an endgame king+Rook-King occured. My opponent in my opinion defended correctly, staying with his king in the "centre" of "lefr/right" side of the board.

3. lestopado 2004, 16:32:59

O čem je toďten plk: Re: draw king+rook-king

The k/r vs. k ending seems to be a speciality of chessFriendJosh : http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=490665

3. lestopado 2004, 16:43:37

O čem je toďten plk: Re: draw king+rook-king

LOL!

3. lestopado 2004, 17:42:37

FriendJosh