Could anyone tell me anything about the devil's triangle stragty in checkers..Linwood X

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ustica: Well but it´s not obvious. Jump side by side it´s like for example jump to right and left and this is allowed. By this reason the official rules says : "Within a multicapture turning 180 degrees between two captures is illegal." It´s logic because in this way all captures are ortoghonals but this norm must be included into the rules or in other case it should not be applied.

Ferjo: Thank you Ferjo. I am going to propose a little change of the written rules in BrainKing in the board of Checkers variants.

Matarilevich:
Like I said its not written, in my opinion should be because once in the past was allowed...
You right its a bit confuse, and you are not the only one who missunderstood the rules. I've already asked for a more clarified english checkers rules text, but I lost with my arguements and I'm not going to start all over again.
I've helped the Portuguese translator and at least now I know that portuguese players understand better the checkers rules in Brainking.

Matarilevich: "But on BrainKing i don´t see any rule demonstrates this move is ilegal." now! this the rule here "a queen that can move (and jump) any number of spaces in four directions (left, up, right and down)."

you see! the rule never says the you can jump side by side. i hope this is your anser.

Ferjo: But on BrainKing i don´t see any rule demonstrates this move is ilegal. Now i know i can´t do it (too late because i moved thinking it´d be possible) but i think it´s legal on BrainKing because there isn´t any rule banning it.

At the end of the rules of Turkish Checkers says :
"The other rules are the same as Czech Checkers" and in Czech Checkers says : "The other rules are the same as Checkers". Reading all these rules I think this move is legal but reading other rules at internet the move is not legal.

Here in the rules of Checkers says too : "If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a queen (in variants with long jumps) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with." and this should be valid for the Turkish-BrainKing Checkers in accordance of the rules but the rules of http://www.geocities.com/karakusk/dama/rules.html say the opposite.

Are the rules unique? Are the rules wrong in BrainKing?

I would like to know which are the rules of Turkish in BrainKing because it´s difficult playing predicting the rules.

Matarilevich:
No is no evidence about it on the english written rules, and until the big modificance in Czeck Checkers rules that particular move was legal. But what can i say to you, is that move its now illegal on BK. Which I think its more accordingly to the turkish variant.

Ferjo:
Well, english is not my tongue so i always prefer to be kind and giving a second oportunity for a explanation. It´s not my problem if someone want to be coward. I don´t know if he wanted to be sarcastic or ironic, it´s not the same but i prefer to think he is intelligent and he was being ironic.
My question is : In accordance of the written rules of checkers in BrainKing is this move ilegal? Can it be demonstrated? Thank you Ferjo.

Matarilevich:
First just two comments, to the question itself. Why searching for a reply its received with sarcasm? Why we can't have doubts about the game rules? Second comment, maybe its more apropriate put your question on the Checkers 8x8 Forum instead of this one...

Ok my reply, I think not having 100% sure, (which I would like a normal answer too!) that move its illegal here in BK, and in the "regular" turkish game also (thought theres a lot of official turkish variations, with different rules).

The turkish variation implemented here its not the same as the "regular" Turkish game, but I think its been on the todo list the implementation of the right rules. If not I apologised for my mistake.

Fencer: I don't know of a Chinese Federation.

Matarilevich: any site they got the is rule

Matarilevich: Here Yes!

http://www.geocities.com/karakusk/dama/rules.html
I think the rules of this game are wrong in BrainKing.

ustica: What does it mean "progr.."? I don´t understand you. It seems it´s an ilegal move but the rules doesn´t explain anything about this. Moreover, i think the rules are incorrect because in turkish checkers a player can not choose between two captures except when he captures the same number of pieces. Is it implemented?

Matarilevich: "the double capture 61...Qb3-h3 is an ilegal move? "
Here Yes! becose if a players have a progr.. he or she can t not use.:)

I am a beginner in checkers and i would like to propose two questions for learning a bit about checkers:
(1)
In this game of turkish checkers
http://brainking.com/es/ShowGame?g=1056575
the double capture 61...Qb3-h3 is an ilegal move?
I have read the rules of Turkish Checkers, Czech Checkers and Checkers and i am not sure about the reason of this move could not be legal.
(2)In the rules of Czech Checkers is written a player can choose between two possible captures but in Turkish Checkers is in this way too or maybe the player must make the capture of the biggest number of enemy pieces. Thank you.

Socrates: What about a Chinese Federation?

All the links and more below are available here: http://usacheckers.com/links.php

Here are some Checker Federation websites for everyone here.

Bellarussian Fed. http://belarus.fmjd.org/
Canadian Assoc. http://usacheckers.com/cca.php
Czech Fed. http://www.damweb.cz/
Czech Union. http://ceskauniedamy.com/
Dutch Fed. http://www.kndb.nl/
English Assoc. http://home.clara.net/davey/
Euro Confed. http://www.edc.org.pl/edc/
World Fed. http://www.fmjd.org/
German Assoc http://www.h4ns.net/checkers/gda/
Irish Fed. http://www.irishdraughts.org/
Polish Fed. http://www.ptw.weh.com.pl/
Portuguese Fed. http://fpdamas.home.sapo.pt/
Quebec Assoc. http://www.fqjr.qc.ca/dames/100/champ/champs.html

Realize that not all of these organizations cover the English/American style of checkers!

Again, all of these links and more at http://usacheckers.com/links.php.

The currect 3-Move Checkers World Champion, Alex Moiseyev, is completing his first checkers book called "SIXTH". You can pre-order the book in the American Checkers Federation' Store here: http://usacheckers.com/viewstore.php?cat_id=2

You can find out more information about the book here: http://usacheckers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90

For all you Americans (or anyone planning to go), the American Checkers Federation has announced the 2006 US National Tournament will be played in "Medina, Ohio" from June 19th-23rd. More detailed information is at the American Checkers Federation's WEBSITE at USACHECKERS.COM.

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?tri=61041

Checkers and Anti Checkers Master, George Miller has won the 2005 Brainking Autumn Checkers Championship, going undefeated getting 7 points out of a possible 8.

daniel2: I don't think this should be added until brainking has added the traditional variants of checkers - international 10x10, brazilian, italian, russian, etc. I am still hoping for 7x7 checkers too :)

Sphere Froglet gave me a good idea, or at least I think it is. Endless checkers, wich connects the top to the bottom. every time a player reaches the top, he (or she) can send that piece back on the next turn, receiving one point. The game can end in two ways, which are 1: somebody lost all pieces, and 2: Tie's are possible when someone cannot move. The "winner" is the one who has the most points (most pieces reached the end and returned). some variatons could include that the sides are connected too, or give the player who caught all opposing pieces a little point bonus. Do you like the idea? or do you just think:"Shut Up"?

if you wanna play in this tourn.. I will send you a personal invitations. http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12866&tri=77776&trnst=0

Socrates:
Thank you but at which time of the day there are players for checkers?
This morning at 10h 30 AM (GMT+ 1), no player for this
game.

jolat: Playsite.com - You can email yourself the game after it's played.

The sites which make it possible to save the games are rare.
However that is quite useful to be able to analyze the games later.
I know Yahoo and Kurnik.
Kurnik makes it possible to save the games but
there are few players for this game on this site.
Yahoo always has many players but it does not make it possible to save the games.
Do you know other sites which make it possible to play checkers and to save the games?

Socrates: George Miller, Lindus Edwards and I are signed up...we need 1 more!!

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12345&tri=70875&trnst=0&tp=7

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12345&trnst=0&tp=7

If you have not aleady recieved an invite and you are 2100 then tell me! If you are a border line 2100, then you have 9 days to get there! Starts December 1st.

Socrates: I agree and as you know George is a household word in the checkers community for good reason. And Richard was winning his first Masters and writing books on checkers when most of us were in knickers.

Purple: Richard Fortman and George Miller are the "class" of Brainking checkers :)

ustica: Indeed. It is no exaggeration to say Richard Fortman can be mentioned in the same breath with Tinsley, King and the greatest players of the last 40 years. It is an honor to have you here and I hope we can have a game.

Welcome RICHLEE.:)

Purple: I don't know if she plays online. I'll try to find out.

Socrates: It would be outstanding if we could interest her to come here and treat us to a few on line games with our best players..Miller, yourself, Trice and Ustica to name a few. How much we could learn.!!

patch: I agree with you, and she has her two master(grandmaster?) brothers to play with!

Socrates:
I played two practice games (face to face)with Amangul Durdyeva when she was fifteen,at the time she was not familiar with book play but the speed and depth at which she analysed positions was frightening.If she maintains an interest in checkers she will surely be world champion in the not too distant future.

Jan Mortimer of New Zealand was the challenger vs. current title holder, Patrica Breen of Ireland. Jan Mortimer won the first game but Patricia came right back with a win in the 2nd game, it never trailed after. The final score was 6 wins for Patricia Breen, 1 win for Jan Mortimer and 8 draws.

Patrica Breen withstands the challenge is still the Womens 3-Move World Champion and in my opinion has reached grandmaster status, even compared with the men.

Jan Mortimer had just played in the Women's World GAYP Championship tournament a week earlier, which could have affected her endurance.

17 year-old Amangul Durdyeva of Turkey, current Women's GAYP World Champion, should now have the rights to challenge Patrica Breen for the 3-Move title.

S O C R A T E S:
seems similar to thailandese checkers... But that one has particular rules on jumping. But if it is checkers I second that! :-D

Rules for 7x7 Checkers:

Played on a 7x7 board.

Black plays first.

Same rules as English Checkers.

Played with Checkers board notation. Square #1 is on 1st row of Black's side, 2nd square from the right.

So there is 3 pieces on 1st row of both players, 4 pieces on 2nd row. 14 pieces total, 7 for each side.

24 playable squares.

The Variation defeats the chance of someone using software to aid their games...unless someone starts making one now.

The game will take more perfect moves to draw. So mistakes are less tolerable.

I've been wanting a place to play this variation and Fencer told me to post the rules here :)

~ GAYP means Go-As-You-Please which is the same style we play here at Brainking :)

World GAYP Qualifier - The winner is Jim Morrison from USA and he will play Ron King for the GAYP World Championship Title Match.

Place - Name - Nation - Points
1. Jim Morrison, USA, 26
2. Bagtyar Durdyev, Turkey, 24
3. Mustafa Durdyev, Turkey, 24
4. Dr. Richard Beckwith, USA, 23
5. Michael Holmes, USA, 20
6. Rawle Allicock, England, 19
7. Ingo Zachos, Germnay(?), 18
8. Dave Harwood, England, 17
9. Thomas Canning, Ireland, 17
10. Dennis Pawlek, Germany, 16
11. Tomas Novotny, Czech, 14
12. Igor "sobek" Keder, Czech, 13
13. Jaroslav Tichy, Czech, 12
14. Sune Thrane, Denmark, 9

Women's World GAYP Championship - The winner is 17 year old Amangul Durdyeva winning all her games and she is declared the Women's World GAYP Champion. Patricia Breen of Ireland is the 3-Move Women's World Champion and will be facing Jan Mortimer of New Zealand for the title this month.

1. Amangul Durdyeva, Turkey, 16
2. Jan Mortimer, New Zealand, 10
3. Kim Willis, USA, 7
4. Alena Sorokina, Czech, 6
5. Marie Reidlbauchova, Czech, 1

Youth World GAYP Championship - The winner is Lukas Valenta of Czech Rep and is declared the Youth(under 21) World GAYP Champion.

1. Lukas Valenta, Czech, 16
2. Bashim Durdyev, Turkey, 15
3. Shane McCusker, Ireland, 11
4. Filip Kareta, Czech, 10
5. Marek Jurkovic, Czech, 5
6. Jiri Jurkovic, Czech, 2

I think the Jim Morrison - Ron King match will be played in 2006.

SOCRATES: His name is transfusion. Says he's a 60 yr old man who reads checker books which he names. His smother game was so many moves ahead it was uncanny..and I moved real fast which seldom works against a good player. I know of the Ulevator guy you're talking about..he is working real hard at dominating the site. I never played him but his record looks pretty imposing for someone who came out of nowhere. (whatever the reason) but he is playing ustica so we'll see how he does there. He won't beat ustica..take that to the bank!

What's his Goldtoken ID? I left Goldtoken after being played unfairly against in a few checkers games. Ulu Ellvator was his ID I think.

There is an undefeated 26-0-0 player on GoldToken who just beat me in 8 moves (no big deal) and I have a rematch where I'm going to play white single corner defense. He seems awesome but I don't see him on BK yet. And he hasn't played the likes of SOCRATES or Ustica. He will bear watching. :)

Round 1 and 2 have been completed. I don't see Milan "Goldarrow" Sip's name under the Qualifying Tournament. I suppose he is just attending the Czech Checkers Championship later in the week.

Igor "sobek" Keder faced English Master, Rawle Allicock in the first round and lost one and drew the other. In Round 2 he faced fellow Czech player Jaroslav Tichy and split the two games.

Qaulifying Tournament Standings after 2 rounds:

1. Mustafa Durdyev, Turkey - 7 Points
2. Michael Holmes, USA - 6 Points
3. Jim Morrison, USA - 6 Points
4. Rawle Allicock, England - 5 Points
5. Richard Beckwith, USA - 5 Points
6. Dave Harwood, England - 5 points
7. Bagtyar Durdyev, Turkey - 5 Points
8. Thomas Canning, Ireland - 4 Points
9. Ingo Zachos, New Zealand - 4 Points
10. Igor "sobek" Keder, Czech Rep. - 3 points
11. Dennis Pawlek, Germany - 2 Points
12. Thomas Novotny, Czech Rep. - 2 Points
13. Jaroslav Tichy, Czech Rep. - 2 Points
14. Sun Thrane, Denmark - 0 Points

Jan Mortimer of New Zealand and Amangul Durdyev of Turkey are tied for 1st place in the Womens Championship with 8 points.

Lukas Valenta of Czech Rep. is leading the Youth Championship with 7 points. He defeated the favorite, Basham Durdyev both games in round 1 with dramatic fashion.

Round 3 update: Mustafa Durdyev of Turkey drew both games with Jim Morrison of USA in round 3. So If Mustafa can put up a good score against Richard Beckwith of USA there might be no catching him.