And his followers are stupid.  

Obama is a Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.

(V):  Leave it to you to excuse bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. 

(V):  The "comment"  wasn't mine.  It was taken from the article.  And just reading that "comment" it's clear that it wasn't an opinion coming from me. 

(V):  I didn't say OWS were terrorists. 

Last night’s riotous atmosphere resulted in a sergeant and lieutenant suffering minor injuries while scuffling with anarchist protesters at the Astor Place Starbucks, the police said.

According to police, around 25 people tried smashing the windows of the cafe with eight-foot long steel pipes at around 8:45 p.m. after attending the Anarchist book fair earlier in the day. “Patrons fearing that they would be hit by flying glass hid under tables,” the police said in a statement. “Several” officers were assaulted with pipes and bottles, the police added.

Some are calling OWS a terrorist group.....

(V): There is no evidence presented in that article that would lead anyone (except you) to conclude a link between the Tea Party and racism. On the contrary, the older gentleman, having experienced REAL RACISM in his life, couldn't believe a bunch of 'whites' at rallies wouldn't have racist agendas. That in and of itself is racism. The whole point of the article (that you choose to misread) was that racism wasn't present in the Tea Party. As you always do, you twist things and misrepresent.

(V): There is a strong Nazi party right in your own back yard

(V): Nope. As usual you miss the point. There is no mention of racism in the tea party. On the contrary, the author says there isn't.

(V): You might have missed actually reading that post. There is NO MENTION of racism "in the Tea party" as you falsely claim.

Is so, where?

rod03801: It's interesting how the left focuses on the Tea Party racism when none exists but overlooks the hundreds of crimes committed by OWS loons. Then the Prez has the stupidity to suggest that the OWS group is the same as the TParty. Only in politics.

(V): You ignore facts and make excuses. Same old same old. It's clear from what I've posted that as a group, the OWS crowd has MANY bad elements. OTOH, the Tea Party does not. And you'd be hard pressed to prove otherwise. Any group would have a few bad apples. OWS has not just a few, but thousands. They are anarchists. They use violence and intimidation as a means to an end.

NY: 10/1/2011 -- Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge

Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 -- Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation

Phoenix: 10/28/2011 -- Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”

NY: 10/18/2011 -- Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters

NY: 10/9/2011 -- Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR

NY: 10/7/2011 -- Occupiers Rush Police ... More

Cleveland: 10/18/2011 -- ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped

NY: 10/10/2011 -- ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?

Seattle: 10/18/2011 -- Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested

10/12/2011 -- Iran Supports 'Occupy Wall Street'

Portland: 10/16/2011 --#OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead

Portland: 10/15/2011 -- #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”

Chicago: 10/17/2011 -- COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago

10/15/2011 -- American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’

Boston: 10/14/2011 -- Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents

Boston: 10/11/2011 -- Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston

New York: 10/11/2011 -- "You Can Have Sex with Animals."

New York: 10/15/2011 -- Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries

New York: 10/9/2011 -- 'Occupy Wallstreet' Protesters Steal from Local Businesses

New York: 10/25/2011 -- Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape

Baltimore: 10/18/2011 -- #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police

Portland: 10/27/2011 -- Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft

Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 - Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street

10/27/2011 -- A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester

10/27/2011 -- Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer

Boston: 10/20/2011 -- Occupy Boston Doesn't Want Police Involved in Rape

New York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel

New York: 10/4/2011 -- Occupier Taunts Jewish Man

Boston: 10/2011 -- Occupiers Block Street

New York: 10/2011 -- Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer's Gun

New York: 10/27/2011 -- Occupiers Block Traffic, Get Arrested

Oakland: 10/27/2011 -- Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police

Oakland: 10/19/2011 -- Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City

Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 -- Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs

Portland, OR: 10/18/2011 -- Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers

NY: 10/20/2011 -- #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons

NY: 10/14/2011 -- Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange

NY: 10/14/2011 -- Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops

Oakland: 10/19/2011 -- #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter

Oakland: 10/26/2011 -- Occupiers Scuffle with Police

Oakland: 10/24/2011 -- Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank

Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 -- Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’

Chicago: 10/14/2011 -- Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’

NY: 10/23/2011 -- #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews

NY: 10/22/2011 -- #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’

NY: 10/21/2011 -- New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters

Oakland: 10/21/2011 -- Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation

Oakland: 10/19/2011 -- #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination

Chicago: 10/26/2011 -- Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism

Cleveland: 10/29/2011 -- Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland

Dallas: 10/24/2011 -- Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas

Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 -- Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him

NY: 10/10/2011 -- Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests

Glasgow: 10/26/2011 -- Woman Gang-Raped

Boston: 10/23/2011 -- Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent

Portland: 10/16/2011 -- Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address

Denver: 10/15/2011 -- Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer

Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 -- Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp

Minneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, 'Riot Supplies' Discovered by Police

Phoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 -- Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s

Chicago: 10/26/2011 -- Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall

10/26/2011 -- ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks

10/26/2011 -- OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops

Chicago: 10/26/2011 -- Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers

Chicago: 10/25/2011 -- Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’

10/26/2011/ -- Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned

Wash DC: 10/27/2011 -- OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue

Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 -- Occupy Squatters Riot With Police

San Diego: 10/25/2011 -- Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier's Dog

Oakland: 10/25/2011 -- Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police

NY: 10/27/2011 -- Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda

10/27/2011 -- Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946

NY: 10/28/2011 -- Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS

10/28/2001 -- Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750

Nashville: 10/28/2011 -- 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest

NY: 10/20/2011 -- Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into Violence

NY: 1023/2011 -- Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street

Los Angeles: 10/13/2011 -- Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism

NY: 10/12/2011 -- There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy

Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 -- Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested

Oakland: 10/28/2011 -- Bounty Out On Police Officer?

Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 -- Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally

San Diego: 10/28/2011 -- 40 Occupiers arrested

Boston: 10/24/2011 -- Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks

Boston: 10/25/2011 -- Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began

Portland: 10/28/2011 -- Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp

Seattle: 10/20/2011 -- Two Possible Occupiers Charged With Assault

Seattle: 10/18/2011 -- Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy Seattle

Seattle: 10/18/2011 -- A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle

Seattle: 10/17/2011 -- Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests

Seattle: 10/13/2011 -- Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters

Seattle: 10/13/2011 -- Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two

Denver: 10/29/2011 -- Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver

Austin: 10/13/2011 -- Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews

Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 -- Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage

Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 -- 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpsters

Sacramento: 10/19/2011 -- 9 arrested in 'Occupy Sacramento' protest

Sacramento: 10/13/2011 -- Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested

Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 -- Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp

Nashville: 10/29/2011 -- Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night

Austin, TX: 10/30/2011 -- Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin Protesters

NY: 10/30/2011 -- Woman Assaulted in Her tent

Orlando, FL: 10/28/2011 -- Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown park

Orlando, FL: 10/26/2011 -- 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for trespass

Orlando, FL: 10/22/2011 -- Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on trespass charges

Asheville, NC: 10/30/2011 -- Occupiers Clash with Homeless in Asheville

Nationwide: 10/27/2011 -- Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus Far

Fort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 -- Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth Protest

NY: 10/29/2011 -- Three Incidents of Anti-Semitism

San Francisco: 10/29/2011 -- Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara Lovin

Oklahoma City: 10/30/2011 -- Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as Homicide

Baltimore: 10/31/2011 -- Woman Claims She was Raped at #OccupyBaltimore

Boston: 10/31/2001 -- Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy Movement

Ottawa: 10/31/2011 -- #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to Police

Santa Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 -- Occupiers Defy Police

Santa Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 -- 8 Occupiers Arrested

Denver, CO: 10/31/2011 -- Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to Ground

Dallas, TX: 10/24/2011 -- 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank Demonstration

Richmond, VA: 10/31/2011 -- Arrests of Occupiers in Richmond

Dallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child Sex assault at Occupy Dallas Camp

NY: 11/1/2011 -- Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier 'Free Love'

Iowa: 11/1/2011 -- Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa Caucus

NY: 11/1/2011 -- Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their Jobs

San Diego: 10/29/2011 -- Businesswoman Closes Shop After Threats By Occupiers

Palm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested

Tampa, FL: 10/24/2011 -- Six Occupiers Arrested

Tampa, FL: 10/27/2011 -- Two More Arrested In Connection to Occupy Tampa Movement

Tampa, FL: 10/29/2011 -- Occupy Tampa Protesters Arrested After Scuffle With Police

Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 -- Rallies Turn Violent

Seattle, WA: 11/2/2011 -- Cops, Protesters Clash

Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 -- Protests Degenerate Into Chaos

Tulsa, OK: 11/2/2011 -- Occupiers Clash With Police

Sacramento, CA: 11/2/2011 -- Occupiers Smash County Vehicle Windows

Philadelphia: 11/2/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested

Charlottesville, VA: 11/1/2011 -- Underage Drinking at Occupy Charlottesville Site

Portland: 11/2/2011 -- Occupier Shoves Police Officer into Moving Bus

Oakland: 11/2/2011 -- Malkin's Collection of Vandalism and Menacing Signs

NYC: 11/3/2011 -- Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In Rape

NYC: 11/4/2011 -- 16 OWS Protesters Arrested at Goldman Sachs HQ

Oakland, CA: 11-3-2011 -- Occupy-Friendly Business Vandalized

Asheville, NC: 11/3/2011 -- 24 Occupiers Arrested

Raleigh, NC: 10/28/2011 -- Eight at Occupy Raleigh Arrested After Standoff

NYC: 11/4/2011 -- Deranged Homeless Man Goes on Violent Rampage In Zuccotti Park

Dallas, TX: CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ Site

Wash DC: 11/4/2011 -- Occupier Uses Child as Human Shield -- Video

Wash DC: 11/4/2011 -- Occupiers Try to Storm Americans for Prosperity Event -- Video

Omaha, NE: 11/3/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested

Atlanta: 11/3/2011 -- Protester Turns On Fellow Protester With Knife

Los Angeles: 10/28/2011 -- Drug Use and Property Damage

Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 -- 3 Charged With Dealing Crack; Occupy Boston ‘Deteriorating’

Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 -- Occupiers Storm Israeli Consulate; Anti-Israel Chants -- Video

Vancouver, CN: 11/5/2011 -- Occupy Vancouver Death Dooms Protest Camp

Fort Collins, CO: 11/4/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Setting Fire to Condo Complex ... $10M Damage

Chula Vista, CA: 11/6/2011 -- Underage Girl Missing From Occupy Protests

Los Angeles, CA: 11/5/2011 -- Two Assaults Raise Concerns About Crime at Occupy L.A.

Dallas, TX: 11/5/2011 -- Eight Arrests at Dallas Bank Protest

Olympia, WA: 11/5/2011 -- Two Occupy Protesters Arrested

Seattle, WA: 11/3/2011 -- Occupiers Cost City $426,000; Most of it Police Overtime

Olympia, WA: 11/2/2011 -- 3 Occupiers Arrested for Suspected of Robbing Local Wine Merchant

Worcester, MA: 11/6/2011 -- 25 Occupiers Arrested

Milwaukee, WI: 11/2/2011 -- Photojournalist, Two others Arrested at Protest ... Video

Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 -- Police Confront Occupier --Video ... Arrested

Wash. DC: 11/5/2011 -- Rampaging Occupiers Attack 78 Year-Old Woman --- Video

Rochester, NY: 11/3/2011 -- 161 Occupiers Arrested at Park

NYC: 11/5/2011 -- Police Clash With Occupiers, 20 Arrested at Courthouse Protest

NYC: 11/5/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Vandalizing McDonald's; Wanted Free Food

Asheville, NC: 11/5/2011 -- Four Occupiers Arrested

Honolulu, HI: 11/6/2011 -- Police Arrest Half-Dozen Occupiers

Waikiki, HI: 11/7/2011 -- Two Dozen Occupiers Arrested

Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested for Threatening Restaurant Employees

Portland, OR: 11/7/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Threatening Security Staff with Hammer

Augusta, GA: 10/28/2011 -- Occupier Arrested in Knife Threat

Portland OR: 11/9/2011 -- Police Suspect Occupiers in Molotov Cocktail Attack

Sacramento, CA: 11/7/2011 -- Homeless Clash With Occupy Protesters At Park

New Orleans: 11/8/2011 -- Man Dead for Two Days Found in Occupy Encampment

San Diego: 11/7/2011 -- Occupiers Splatter Vendor Food Carts with Blood, Urine

Los Angeles: 11/7/2011 -- Occupiers Shut Down Burger King -- Video

Atlanta, GA: 11/6/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested After Attacking Police

St. Louis, MO: 11/9/2011 -- Occupiers Hack Into Mayor's Website

Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 -- "Dangerous" Occupiers Hurting Small Business Owners

Vancouver, CN: 11/8/2011 -- Occupiers Bite Two Police Officers

Wash DC: 11/8/2011 -- Occupiers Use Children to Block Traffic -- Video

Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 -- Occupiers Threaten Citizen-Journalist -- Video

Wash DC: 11/8/2011 -- Occupiers Use Racial Taunts Against Black Security Guard -- Video

Eureka, CA: 11/9/2011 -- Occupier Defecates in Bank -- Video

Wash DC: 11/5/2011 -- Occupiers Menace Children, Female Reporter -- Video

Portland, OR: 11/8/2011 -- Occupiers Menace News Crew -- Video

NYC: 11/8/2011 -- Occupier: ‘I Wouldn’t Give a F**k if 9/11 Happened 911 More Times'

NYC: 11/8/2011 -- Small Business Owner Threatened, Terrorized By Occupiers

San Francisco, CA: 11/10/2011 -- Occupier Threatens Park Ranger

Burlington, VT: 11/10/2011 -- Veteran Shoots Self at Encampment

Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 -- 'Occupy Oakland' Goes After Cop

NYC: 11/10/2011 -- EMT Assaulted at Occupy Wall Street

San Diego, CA: 11/10/2011 -- Occupier Attacks Woman with Camera

Berekely, CA: 11/10/2011 -- 39 Occupiers Arrested

Westwood, CA: 11/9/2011 -- 11 Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic

Fresno, CA: 11/9/2011 -- 40 Occupiers Arrested

Toledo, OH: 11/1/2011 -- 2 Occupiers Arrested

Houston, TX: 11/9/2011 -- 10 Occupiers Arrested

NYC: 11/8/2011 -- Hobbyist Photographer Describes Assault in Zuccotti Park

Oakland, CA: 11/10/2011: Fatal Shooting Over Drugs

Oakland: CA: 11/10/2011 -- Protesters Attack News Crew Covering Fatal Shooting

Pasadena, CA: 11/10/2011 -- Occupiers Announce Plans to Disrupt Rose Bowl Parade

Tampa, FL 11/10/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested

Portland, OR: 11/10/2011 -- Occupiers Billed for Police Car Vandalism

Olympia, WA: 11/11/2011 -- Occupiers Asked to Pack Up After Assault, Drug Arrests

Denver, CO: 11/11/2011 -- Occupiers Storm BlogCon 11 ... One Arrest

Salt Lake City, UT: 11/12/2011 -- Protest Shut Down After Body Discovered In Tent

San Francisco: 11/8/2011 -- Shoplifting, Fights On The Rise Around Encampment

San Francisco: 11/10/2011 -- Occupiers Accused of Ferry Building Thefts, Filth

San Francisco: 11/10/2011 -- Protester Busted For Gun Violation Arrested Again

Mobile, AL: 11/9/2011 -- 18 Occupy Protesters Arrested

New Orleans: 11/11/2011 -- Death at Campsite Attributed To Alcohol Abuse

San Francisco: 11/12/2011 -- Occupier Slashes Police Officer With Razor, Another Injured

Portland: 11/13/2011 -- Three Arrested with Mortars, Fireworks

Chapel Hill, NC: 11/13/2011 -- Eight Occupiers for Trespassing

Norfolk, VA: Six Occupiers Arrested

Philadelphia, PA: 11/13/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Rape

Portland, OR: 10/27/2011 -- Sexual Assault: 'nobody should contact the police' -- Video

NYC: 11/12/2011 -- Occupiers Plan Mass Trespassing Campaign

Oakland, CA: 11/8/2011 -- Occupiers Plan Mass Trespassing Campaign

Salt Lake City, UT: 11/12/2011 -- 19 Occupiers Arrested

St. Louis, MO: 11/13/2011 -- 27 Occupiers Arrested

St. Louis, MO: 11/12/2011 -- Occupier Arrested

NYC: 11/13/2011 -- Occupier Slugs Police Officer

Oakland, CA: 11/10/2011 -- Occupiers Withdraw Resolution to Remain Peaceful

Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 -- Occupier Requires Life-Saving CPR After Drug Overdose

Portland, OR: 11/9/2011 -- 4 Reports of Substance Abuse

Olympia, WA: 11/12/2011: Growing Number of Drug, Violence Complaints

Atlanta, GA: 11/10/2011 -- TB Breaks Out at Occupy Home Base

NYC: 11/13/2011 -- Occupy Wall Street Costs Local Businesses $479,400

Nationwide: 11/11/2011 -- Occupy Death Toll Hits 7

Seattle, WA: 11-14-2011 -- Occupier Defecates on Public Sidewalk

Hartford, CT: 10/16/2011 -- Occupier Charged After Pulling Knife

Dallas, TX: 11/14/2011 -- 9-Month-Old Baby Removed From Camp Due to Health Concerns, Neglect

Albuquerque, NM: 10/27/2011 -- 2 Occupiers Arrested

Albuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 -- More Than a Dozen Occupiers Arrested

Albuquerque, NM: 10/22/2011 -- Knife Attack at Occupy Camp

Albuquerque, NM: 10/27/2011 -- Police Forced to Remove Occupiers From Park Again, 37 Arrested

Albuquerque, NM: 10/8/2011 -- Occupier Arrested

University of New Mexico: 11/8/2011 -- Sordid Story of Lawlessness, Dozens of Arrests, Spitting on Walmart Customer

Albuquerque, NM: 10/16/2011 -- Occupier Cited for Blocking Traffic

Portland, OR: 11/14/2011 -- 51 Occupiers Arrested

Portland, OR: 11/14/2011 -- Occupiers Smash Bank Windows

Albany, NY: 11/15/2011 -- 20 Occupiers Arrested

Near Salem, OR: 11/13/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested With Explosives

Wash DC: 11/11/2011 -- Occupy’ Mom ‘Won’t Stop’ Putting Protest Above Her Kids’ Safety

NYC: 11/15/2011: -- Hundreds of Occupiers Arrested, Chaos, Resisting Arrest, Object Thrown at Police

Houston, TX: 11/15/2011 -- Occupier Arrested

Minnesota: 11/15/2011 -- Occupy Minnesota Costs Taxpayers $10,000+ Each Day

Austin, TX: 11/15/2011 -- Occupier Accused of Masturbating in Front of 16 Year-old Girl

San Francisco, CA: 11/15/2011 -- Deadly Dog Disease Spreads at Occupy Camp

Philadelphia, PA: 11/15/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Assaulting Woman

Philadelphia, PA: 11/15/2011 -- Occupiers Vandalize Dilworth Plaza With Graffiti and Feces -- Video

Santa Cruz, CA: 11/15/2011 -- Ringworm, Scabies Outbreak at Occupy Camp

Oakland, CA: 11/14/2011 -- Occupiers Cost Taxpayers $2.4 Million

Wash DC: 11/16/2011 -- Suspected White House Shooter Spent Time with OccupyDC.

Pittsburgh, PA: 11/15/2011 -- Five Occupiers Arrested for Disorderly Conduct, Blocking Traffic

San Francisco, CA: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Storm Bank, 95 Arrested

Chicago, IL: 11/16/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Child Porn

NYC: 11/16/2011 -- Dozens Of Hypodermic Needles Found In Zuccotti Park

NYC: 11/16/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Making Terror Threats -- Video ... More.

Dallas, TX: 11/17/2011 -- 18 Occupiers Arrested

Charlotte, NC: 11/14/2011 -- Two Occupiers Arrested

Charlotte, NC: 11/15/2011 -- 8 Occupiers Arrested

Ottawa, CN: 10/29/2011 -- Feces, Urine, and Blood Covered Blanket Hung Over Tent

Los Angeles, CA: 11/15/2011 -- Occupier Charged With Masturbating In Front of Children

Los Angeles, CA: 11/15/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Attempting to Light Food Vendor On Fire

NYC: 11/15/2011 -- City Claims Occupy Wall Street Protesters Were Stockpiling Weapons

Wash DC: 11/15/2011 -- Occupiers Block Traffic, Three Injuries

NYC: 11/16/2011 -- 150 Trashmen Needed to Clean Occupy Park Filth

Los Angeles: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Block Freeways, 26 Arrested

NYC: 11/17/2011 - Mob of Occupiers Taunt, Bully Small School Children

San Francisco, CA: 11/17/2011 -- Lice, Fleas, Disease Spread in Camp

NYC: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Create Citywide Mayhem, 275 Arrested

West Jordan, UT: 11/17/2011 -- Occupier Hurls Molotov Cocktail at Bank

NYC: 11/17/2011 -- Police Officer Slashed, Others Attacked

NYC: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Throw Vinegar In Eyes of Police Officers

Lincoln, NE: 11/5/2011 -- 4 Occupiers Arrested at Bank Protest

San Diego, CA: 1/17/2011 -- Occupiers Hold Moment of Silence In 'Solidarity' With Accused Obama Would-Be Assassin -- Video

Melbourne, AU: 11/18/2011 -- Children as Young as 12 Given Drugs, Alcohol

Los Angeles, CA: 11/17/2011 -- Dozens of Occupiers Arrested at Bank Protest

Denver, CO: 11/16/2011 -- Residents Complain Police Response Slowed Due to Occupiers

Denver, CO: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Block Traffic

Denver, CO: 11/18/2011 -- Occupiers Charged With Inciting a Riot, Assaulting Police Officer

Columbus, OH: 11/15/2011 -- 7 Occupiers Arrested for Refusing to Leave Bank

St. Louis, MO: 11/18/2011 -- Woman Sexually Assaulted

Portland, OR: 11/18/2011 -- Occupier Punches Police Horse -- Video

Missoula, MT: 10/26/2011 -- Occupier Charged With Getting 11-Year-Old Drunk

Portland, OR: 11/17/2011 -- Occupier Brags About Urinating In Public -- Video

Chicago, IL: 11/17/2011 -- 58% Believe Violence Against Government Sometimes Necessary

Portland, OR: 11/18/2011 -- Ocupier Uses Infant as Human Shield -- Video

NYC: 11/18/2011 -- Mob Calls For Revolutio,n Screams “F*ck cops! F*ck police!” -- Video

Portland, ME: 11/19/2011 -- Two Occupiers Arrested for Brutal Assaults

Orlando, FL: 11/14/2011 -- Two Occupiers Fight, One Injured By Knife

Pensacola, FL: 11/18/2011 -- Occupier Charged With Burglary, Brought Furniture to Occupy Camp

NYC: 11/19/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Blocking Traffic Also Wanted in Indiana

Philadelphia, PA: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested During Protest

Seattle, WA: 11/17/2011 -- Hundreds of Occupiers Snarl Traffic Around Medical Center

Columbia, SC: 11/16/2011 -- At Least 15 Occupiers Arrested

Mobile, AL: 11/17/2011 -- Occupier Arrested in Government Building

Dallas, TX: 11/2011 -- Media List of Occupy Arrests, Infractions

Santa Cruz, CA: 11/19/2011 -- County Officials Release List of 93 Acts of Lawlessness In and Around Occupy Camp

Santa Cruz, CA: 11/19/2011: Occupiers Suspected of Dumping 200 Pounds of Human Feces Near Veterans Building

Berkeley, CA: 11/18/2011 -- Woman Assaulted for Refusing to Join Occupy

Des Moines, IA: 11/20/2011 -- Occupy Leader Arrested on Drug Charges

NYC: 11/20/2011 -- Occupier Arrested With Handgun, Ammo

Eugene, OR: 11/19/2011 -- Heroin Overdose at Occupy Camp

Seattle, WA: 11/19/2011 -- 70 Occupiers Trespass on Foreclosed Home

Portland, ME: 11/19/2011 -- Three Occupiers Charged, Including a Hammer Attack

NYC: 11/18/2011 -- 'Runaway Mom' Arrested for Disorderly Conduct

Hartford, CT: 11/17/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic

Austin, TX: 11/18/2011 -- Five Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing

Minneapolis, MN: 11/20/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested for Burglary, Blocking Police Car -- Video

Oakland, CA; 11/20/2011 -- Occupiers Defy Legal Eviction, Return to Camp

Wash DC: 11/19/2011 -- 11 Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing

San Francisco, CA: 11/18/2011 -- Camp Declared Public Health Nuisance; Eviction Deadline Passes

Oakland, CA: 11/19/2011 -- Occupiers Plan to Shut Down all Ports on West Coast

NYC: 11/19/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Forcibly Touching Woman

NYC: 11/21/2011 -- Occupiers Pledge to Stick It to Taxpayers

Houston, TX: 11/22/2011 -- 15 Rounds fired Into Occupy Camp, Gunmen Shot & Arrested

London: 11/21/2011 -- Occupiers Defecate in St. Paul's Cathedral

Oakland, CA: 11/21/2011 -- Occupy Oakland Hosts Gay Porn Movie Shoot

Oakland, CA: 11/22/2011 -- Domestic Terror Group, Weather Underground, Joins #Occupy

Columbia, SC: 11/21/2011 -- Occupiers Defy Curfew

NYC: 11/21/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested After Rowdy Demonstration Outside Mayor's Home

Phoenix, AZ:; 11/21/2011 -- Eight Occupiers Arrested

Albany, NY: 11/20/2011 -- 48 Occupiers Arrested

Pensacola, FL: 11/21/2011 -- City Hall Vandalized After Occupy Protest

Fort Meyers, FL: 11/20/2011 -- Occupier Arrested On Bomb Threat Charges -- Video

Milwaukee, WI: 10/20/2011 -- Occupier Arrested at Bank Protest -- Video

Nationwide: 11/23/2011 -- Occupiers Cost Taxpayers $13 million, So Far

Toronto, CN: 11/23/2011 -- 8 Occupiers Arrested

Seattle, WA: 11/27/2011 -- Armed Thief Flees Into Occupy Camp

Dallas, TX: 11/25/2011 -- 2 Occupiers Arrested for Throwing Red Liquid On Neiman Marcus Walls, Windows

Seattle, WA: 11/27/2011 -- Bank Vandalized With Graffiti: 'Revenge for Occupy Oakland'

Santa Cruz, CA: 11/25/2011 -- Police Arrest Occupier for Heroin Use

Columbia, SC: 11/26/2011 -- Occupy Sympathizer Threatens to Murder Governor Haley

Seattle, WA: 11/23/2011 -- Police: 'Pregnant' Occupy Protestor Tried to Lure Children

Augusta, ME: 11/27/2011 -- 8 Occupiers Arrested for Criminal Trespass and Mischief

Boston, MA: 11/26/2011 -- Occupier Arrested For Failing to Appear In Court For Assaultong Police Officers

Ottawa, CN: 11/26/2011 -- Occupier Arrested, Eight Cited

Raleigh, NC: 11/26/2011 -- Six Arrested For Disrupting Black Friday Shoppers

Edmonton, CN: 11/25/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested

Unknown: 11/25/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing at Walmart on Black Friday -- Video -- More

Bloomington, IN: 11/26/2011 -- Occupiers Drain Local Businesses, Attract Drug Use

San Diego, CA: 11/25/2011 -- Report: Flash Mob Invades Walmart, Leaves 75 Full Carts -- Video

Unknown: 11/25/2011 -- Occupiers Hand Out 'Don't Be a CUMsumer Whore' Pamphlets at Walmart -- Video

Portland, OR: 11/28/2011 -- Occupy Raided ... Cops Find Machetes, Body Armor, Drugs

Austin, TX: 11/25/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Criminal Trespass

Oklahoma City, OK: 11/29/2011 -- Drunken Occupiers Beat Security Guard

Harrisburg, PA: 11/27/2011 -- Occupier Arrested at Mall

Del City, OK: 11/25/2011 -- 10 Occupiers Arrested for Disorderly Conduct at Walmart

Olympia, WA: 11/28/2011 -- Arrests Made After Occupiers and Other Groups Clash With Police

Boston, MA: 11/28/2011 -- Occupier Threatens Man With Knife

Portland OR: 11/28/2011 -- Occupier Threatens Woman With Arson -- Video

Los Angeles, CA: 11/28/2011 -- Several Occupiers Arrested For Throwing Objects at Police

Wilmington, NC: 11/28/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Refusing to Obey Police

Tucson, AZ: 11/28/2011 -- Two Occupiers Arrested

Olympia, WA: 11/29/2011 -- 4 Arrests, Occupier Bites Police Officer's Arm

Dayton, OH: 11/29/2011 -- Occupiers Rage at Target Shoppers -- Video

Los Angeles, CA: 11/30/2011 -- Hundreds of Occupiers Arrested

Philadelphia, PA: 11/30/2011 -- 50 Occupiers Arrested

Tucson, AZ: 11/30/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested For Assaulting Police Officer, Graffiti

Frontenac, MO: 11/30/2011 - Occupiers Vandalize Subdivision Sign

Monterey, CA: 11/30/2011 -- Occupiers Smacks Citizen Journalist -- Video

Los Angeles, CA: 11/30/2011 -- Police Required to Wear Hazmat Suits During Camp Clean Up, Human Waste Stored for Some Reason

Charlottesville, VA: 12/1/2011 -- Several Protesters Arrested, One Nude

Eureka, CA: 11/30/2011 -- Occupier Arrested, 11 Detained

Bloomington, IN: 12/1/2011 -- Five Occupiers Arrested

Riverside, CA: 11/30/2011 -- Occupier Arrested

Philadelphia, PA: 11/30/2011 -- Robber Claims To Be Part of Occupy Movement

Tampa, FL: 12/2/2012 -- 29 Occupiers Arrested

Boston, MA: 12/1/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested

NYC: 12/1/2012 -- 10 Occupiers Arrested

Denton, TX: 12/4/2010 -- Man Found Dead at Occupy Camp

Wash DC: 12/4/2010: Occupiers Refuse to Remove Illegal Structure, 31 Arrested

Hartford, CT: 12/3/2011 -- Sexual Assault Victim Covers Up Crime

Seattle, WA: 12/3/2011 -- 16 Occupiers Arrested After Building Break-in

Seattle, WA: 12/2/2011 -- Occupy Sympathizers Assault Anti-Occupy Protester

Portland, ME: 12/1/2011 -- Occupier Already Facing Assault Charge, Charged With Threatening ... More.

Seattle, WA: 12/3/2011 -- Occupiers Spit on Police

Las Vegas, NV: 11/17/2011 -- 21 Occupiers Arrested for Blocking Traffic

Olympia, WA: 12/2/2011 -- Two Arrests at Camp, Robbery and Assault On Police Officer

Salt Lake City, UT: 11/10/2011 -- Police Break up Fight Involving 30 Occupiers

Santa Cruz, CA: 12/2/2011 -- 20 to 30 Occuppiers Break Into Building

Boston, MA: 12/4/2010 -- Knife-wielding Occupier Arrested

NYC: 12/4/2011 -- Three Occupiers Arrested

Nashville, TN: 12/4/2011 -- Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing

NYC: 12/3/2011 -- 'Troubled' Occupier Has Now Been Arrested 6 Times

Augusta, ME: 12/4/2011 -- Occupier Arrested for Threatening Resident with Sledgehammer

Ft. Meyers, FL: 12/2/2011 -- Occupiers Shut Down Preschool

Portland, ME: 11/30/2011 -- Occupiers Cause $86k In Damage to Parks

Los Angeles, CA: 12/3/2011 -- Undercover Police Report Occupiers Prepared Weapons

NYC: 12/1/2011 -- Occupy Causes Small Business to Lay Off 25% of Staff, May Close

Santa Cruz, CA: 12/4/2011 -- Two Arrested for Beating Photographer

Santa Cruz, CA: 12/5/2011 -- Two Arrested for Trespassing

San Diego, CA: 12/5/2011 -- Nine Arrested: Resisting Arrest, Vandalism

Boston, MA: 12/5/2011 -- Woman Stabbed at Occupy Camp

Eugene, OR: 12/5/2011 -- Occupiers Cost Taxpayers $100k

Nashville, TN: 12/4/2011 -- Four Occupiers Arrested

Portland, OR: 12/4/2011 -- Several Occupiers Arrested

Orlando, FL: 12/5/2011 -- Several Occupiers Arrested

Tulsa, OK: 12/9/2011 -- Occuppiers Rally in Support of Accused Murderer

San Francisco, CA: 12/8/2011 -- Occupiers Clash with Police, 70+ Arrested

Orlando, FL: 12/5/2011 -- 5 Occupiers Arrested

Wash DC: 12/8/2011 -- 70 Occupiers Arrested In Protest, Block Traffic for Hours

Des Moines, IA: 12/7/2011 -- Occupiers Steal From Evicted Man

Dayton, OH: 12/8/2011 -- 5 Occupiers Arrested for Trespassing

Tucson, AZ: 12/6/2011 -- 5 Occupiers Arrested for Fighting

Darien, CT: 12/6/2011 -- Occupy Organizer Arrested for Blocking Traffic While Drunk

Hartford, CT: 12/6/2011 -- Occupier Arrested

Newark, NJ: 12/9/2011 -- SEIU Local President Complains Occupy Offered Son Drugs

Orlando, FL: 12/8/2011 -- Five Occupiers Arrested

Sacramento, CA: 12/8/2011 -- Two Dozen Occupiers Arrested

Santa Cruxz, CA: 1/7/2011 -- Occupiers Commit $30,000 In Vandalism

Oakland, CA: 12/3/2011 -- Occupiers Taunt, Harass Police -- Video

(V):

""And the leadership of the Occupy camps tried to cover up the crimes by "handling them internally.""

jules--->Some people after being attacked don't want the police involved. This is a fact."

Except Jules, this isn't what happened. The leaders of the OWS camp decided FOR THE RAPE VICTIM that it would be handled internally.

""that they had to have a woman's only section (as well as a gay and lesbian sections) for the safety of others."

--->So they choose to protect the women, and the gay and lesbians from gay and lesbian haters... you are complaining about this?"

The mere fact that they had to set up safe zones in the OWS camps proves the camps were a dangerous place as well as many of the protesters were dangerous people.

""Only liberal thinkers like you would try to soft pedal the rapes."

--->I'm not. To say so is just petty fogging. You made a false statement based on one certain fraction of an equation, there were rapists and abusers and anti gay folk who 'blended' in and raped/attacked people at the OWS camps."

No, you're making light of all of it. But anyone reading back on your comments re the Tea Party will see you went out of your way to connect dots between the Tea Party and scandalous people. Like the liberal media, you pushed the racist element of the Tea Party (even when none existed). With the rapes, you make excuses, with the Tea Party you only made accusations. The rapes happened. The racist element is a myth.

--->Just as their have been cases of rapes, sodomy, incest and abuse in Christian Churches by Christians... but that they were Christians is insignificant except to maybe explain how they may have gotten away with such activities. Especially as many within the Christian church covered up such matters and dealt with them internally..

Or like the gang rape epidemic in Britian - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oWn6_lwQQQ

We know not all Brits are rapists.

But in the case of OWS, it happend and was covered up. And not in just one case but s

rod03801: Exactly right.

Vikings: Mine wasn't a petty jab. It was a left hook.

Please show a video of you swearing on a stack of bibles and present your witnesses one by one with proper documentation.

(V): Your bad luck in thnking always seems to surface rather quickly. It's like when you try to access logic you get this message:

Pettifogging.....jules learns a new word and loves to use it. DictionarysAreUS.com~

Only Jules can go from OWS to LDS in one sentence and think he's staying on topic!

(V): So I'm calling ya out. Let's get these "witnesses" so that you can feel better about yourself. lol Also, some proof would be nice. Or am I to take the word of one such as you?

It's clear from the evidence that there were rapes that occured in the occupy camps and that the leaders TRIED TO COVER THEM UP! Of course you don't like this inconvienent fact do you? It rather destroys your narrative. Looks like you're the one who made a false statement based on one certain fraction of an equation (not to mention your endless twisting of the facts!!!)

You've been schooled again!

(V): Well as they say Jules, put up or shut up. (how many Bibles are in a stack?)

(V): You love to change the subject don't you. Plus you are making this all up. Besides, the point you were disputing was the FACT that rapes occured in the Occupy Wall Street camps. Not only did they happen, the perpatrators were Occupiers (as were the victims). And the leadership of the Occupy camps tried to cover up the crimes by "handling them internally." It got so bad with the Occupy group that they had to have a woman's only section (as well as a gay and lesbian sections) for the safety of others. There are several hundred examples of serious law violations including rapes. Only liberal thinkers like you would try to soft pedal the rapes.

(V): Now you're having very bad luck when it comes to thinking. You don't even make sense.

(V): Now do try to stay on point

(V): Some were rapists duh

(V): And you LOVE to change the subject when you've lost an argument (which is often - especially when you face-off against me). What else would ya like me to school ya on?

(V): When you're losing an argument (which is often) you will stoop to anything to muddy the waters. Of course no one make that claim about the 99%. YOU made it up out of desperation.

to it all......hook line and sinker comes to mind

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/02/how-many-people-die-from-lack-of-health-insurance/35820/

"The most recent available study, which also had the largest sample and controlled for the most variables, found no effect at all--a result which surprised the hell out of its author, a former Clinton advisor. Other studies say the number is in the tens of thousands. "

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How Many People Die From Lack of Health Insurance?
By Megan McArdle

Feb 11 2010, 3:20 PM ET 132

It's a contentious question, but curiously, one that doesn't get debated nearly as fiercely as things like "how many uninsured people are there?" I find that surprising, because after all, we don't necessarily care whether people are marked by some survey as "insured" or "uninsured"; we care whether there is preventable suffering in the world.

But it turns out to be really hard to determine how many people die without insurance, which is the subject of this month's column. The most recent available study, which also had the largest sample and controlled for the most variables, found no effect at all--a result which surprised the hell out of its author, a former Clinton advisor. Other studies say the number is in the tens of thousands.

The left is predictably fond of the study which got the largest number, 45,000 a year. Unfortunately, its authors are political advocates for a single-payer system, who also helped author the notorious studies on medical bankruptcies. Those studies are very shoddily done, with parameters that somehow always conspire to produce the maximum possible number. In the first study, they set an absurdly low threshhold for what constituted a "medical bankruptcy". In the second, they chose 2006, the year after the 2005 bankruptcy reform act had driven an unprecedented spike in filings."

--and so much more --

ya been schooled

(V): Looks like you've had a bit more bad luck when it comes to thinking.

That the famous study by the Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance has been a reliable Democrat talking point for months. But its estimate that 44,789 "excess deaths" are associated with lack of health insurance annually is rarely questioned by the media. They should be.

"The findings in this research are based on faulty methodology and the death risk is significantly overstated," National Center for Policy Analysis president John C. Goodman has explained. "The subjects were interviewed only once and the study tries to link their insurance status at that time to mortality a decade later. Yet over the period, the authors have no idea whether subjects were insured or uninsured, what kind of medical care they received, or even cause of death."

Researchers of the Harvard based their conclusion upon national surveys participants filled from 1986-1994. After checking how many of the adults died by the year 2000, researchers proceeded to make the unbelievable leap in assumption and faith that the uninsured stayed uninsured for all those years - and died as a result.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/anthony-kang/2010/03/19/you-lie-msnbc-lets-dems-false-45-000-uninsurance-deaths-go-unchallenge#ixzz1rbHUJBFY


opps.......

But it does make for good press eh Jules?

“An estimated 17,000 children in the United States might have died unnecessarily over nearly two decades because they didn’t have health insurance,” said U.S. News and World Report. “The authors estimated that at least 1,000 hospitalized children died each year simply because they lacked insurance,” said The New York Times.

They’re talking about a Johns Hopkins Children’s Center study [gated, but with abstract]. But between the media hype and the actual study is an enormous chasm that separates fact from fiction. In truth, the authors of the study did not establish that anybody, anywhere, died of any cause whatsoever because of a lack of health insurance.

This is only the latest in a series of ridiculous claims that have been injected into the health insurance debate. What follows is a brief review, some of which has appeared earlier at the Health Affairs blog.

...................

Also, before you go into mourning too quickly, be aware that when former Director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) June O’Neill and her husband Dave used a similar approach they found that the involuntarily uninsured (low-income people) were only 3% more likely to die over a 14-year period than those with health insurance. There was no statistically significant effect on the “voluntarily uninsured” (higher-income people).

That’s not too surprising in light of a RAND study finding. People are receiving appropriate care a little better than half the time when they see doctors. According to RAND, the care patients receive is not affected by whether they are insured or uninsured or by the type of insurance they have. People who are uninsured, of course, may delay seeing a doctor in the first place — because of their lack of insurance. But this problem is unlikely to be solved by enrolling them in Medicaid programs that routinely ration by waiting.

http://healthblog.ncpa.org/does-lack-of-insurance-cause-premature-death-probably-not/

Bernice: The cost of Obama Care is already double and there will be "panels" that make policy and deny people certain procedures.

There are those in the liberal party that complained that VP Cheney received a heart transplant. Too old they said. They would have let him die if they had their way. That's a death panel and it's coming our way.

Bernice: There are many horror stories from Britain and Canada where people who needed urgent care were ignored (due to the waiting period and determinations that their problems weren't "urgent") and died.

If I'm selling a product (insurance) don't I have the right to offer this, this, and this as covered but not that? Why must the government determine what a company is to carry? If someone on my policy needs hearing aids, there is NO COVERAGE for the 4500$ cost. Why no coverage? Because it's not cost effective to offer the coverage. I'd pay a few hundred dollars a year and some devices are in excess of 5 thousand dollars. It adds up when one considers that it's normal for older people to lose certain portions of their hearing. Most old farts could use hearing aids.

As for death panels, I think they will exist. There is a determination of what procedure is worth the cost and what isn't. Watch and see. If this health care bill survives, we will see some procedure where some "wanted" procedures will be denied (such as a heart transplant for people over 70). Mike Wallace just died at 93. A heart transplant extends one's life for up to 15 more years. Yeah, I want that!!!

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Alcohol abuse kills some 75,000 Americans each year and shortens the lives of these people by an average of 30 years, a U.S. government study suggested Thursday.


How many of these loons don't have health care coverage?

Hmmmm, maybe the government should regulate who gets to drink?

(V): That report is seriously flawed. Do you know how many factors lead to death? It cannot be attributed to lack of health care. Many die with health care! Some die because of bad choices like eating unhealthy foods and getting fat.

Either way Jules (who is addressing me without addressing me, classic Middle School!) it's not up to the govt to force me to pay more just so people without can have. And seriously, what has the government ever undertaken that turned out well? Only private industry can effectively run anything! The government mucks everything up. And we're gonna trust them running a national health care system?

Here come the death panels.

(V): And Jules, it's not up to the government to " Christianize" policies. What were you thinking? Oh yeah, you weren't.