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13. Settembre 2011, 03:49:52
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:Maybe you need to check your sources and explore more unbiased news outlets.
(V): Priceless, Cenk Uygur calls Brietbart a liar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ris7kWRonW8

opps

Yeah Jules, that guy is SOOOOOOOoooOOooOoOoooooo credible. NOT!

13. Settembre 2011, 02:33:39
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Cenk Uygur
replaced by Al Sharpton!!!


13. Settembre 2011, 02:21:01
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
(V): Oh rubbish. There was nothing there. What a joke. All I saw was a dishonest man twisting things as the Turk guy does all day long. How about you articulate exactly what this "lie" is supposed to be. You know, in your own words.


12. Settembre 2011, 15:45:22
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
(V): The Young Turks??? If you went any further left you'd fall off the cliff!!!

12. Settembre 2011, 06:08:13
Papa Zoom 

12. Settembre 2011, 02:23:48
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Send the progressives
Mousetrap: Sadly no but you'd think they can see what's currently happening and what's necessary to turn it around.

11. Settembre 2011, 23:06:26
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Pelosi does standup! (sitting down!)

11. Settembre 2011, 23:00:06
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Has Great Britain become an Islamic state?
Mousetrap: You are exactly right. And the fault lies with all of us for allowing multiculturalism and its lie that all cultures are equal, to prevail. We actually teach that slop to our kids. Do you think the powers in Islamic countries teach that Western culture is equivalent to Eastern (particularly their own)? Not only that, but Muslim countries fight with each other over who has the better values.

It's time to through out the idea that all cultural values are equal (because they are not) and it's time to deport those that refuse to assimilate. Stop allowing Muslims into your countries unless they agree to assimilate! And just for fun, send some of the progressives of the world to live in Muslim countries. Let's see just how they feel after a year under Islamic rule!

11. Settembre 2011, 22:27:27
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: go Col West--truth to power!
Modificato da Papa Zoom (11. Settembre 2011, 22:28:39)

11. Settembre 2011, 22:09:52
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: God Bless The Good Old USA!!!

11. Settembre 2011, 22:00:13
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Has Great Britain become an Islamic state?
http://youtu.be/fkhHK65nTJk

Congrats on your efforts in multiculturalism! You've succeeded (in ruining your country!!!)

11. Settembre 2011, 21:57:08
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: So this is England. hmmmmmmm

11. Settembre 2011, 21:28:01
Papa Zoom 




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11. Settembre 2011, 21:22:13
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
(V): Conservatism in the US is on the rise and a huge majority. It's independents that sway elections and they are leaning rightly Right.

11. Settembre 2011, 20:20:04
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
Übergeek 바둑이: Of course you can teach responsible gun ownership. Thousands do it all the time. And since we have the Constitutional right to own guns, that's the best you're gonna get. You won't get rid of guns with extreme examples of abuse. That happens in many siituations. You don't limit freedoms because of the abuse of a few.

11. Settembre 2011, 18:32:35
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: If this were bush.....
September 11, 2011
Obama's Vapor Legislation
Dan Joppich




Obama's new campaign catch phrase is "Pass This Bill!" He said some variation of "pass this jobs bill" 16 times in his campaign speech before the joint session Thursday and he's repeating it ad naussium in stump speeches since.

This is a little different than last campaign's "Hope and Change!"

Unfortunately nobody has seen any "Bill", let alone reviewed it, analyzed it, debated it, etc. The Congressional Budget Office hasn't scored it (as they've said in the past - we can't estimate it because it's just a speech) so we don't know the cost. And nobody has figured out how we are going to pay for it. Heck, nobody even knows how many jobs it will create even though it's titled American Jobs Act. Obama doesn't even know how many jobs it will create. He never mentioned that anywhere in his campaign speech on Thursday either.

My new catch phrase is, "Pass what bill?"

Apparently his target audience is Malia and Sasha. According to the White House Press Office, Obama's kids get it. Jay Carney gets it. The Liberal Lame Stream Media get it. 100% of the Democrats in the Senate and House are ready to vote for it. No logical person gets it though.

Any thinking American would say, "Get what? There's nothing to get."

As Pelosi says, "We have to pass the bill so you can see what's in it." This seems to be the new normal in Obama's Liberal Progressive bizarro-world. Not only don't we get to read it before voting on it - we don't even get to see it.

Let's call it "vapor legislation".

11. Settembre 2011, 18:13:23
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Quote of the Day
Speaking about Obama, a Democrat said this:

"In my district, the enthusiasm for him has mostly evaporated," said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon. "There is tremendous discontent with his direction."

heading into an election....that's not good....for libs. Great for America though!

11. Settembre 2011, 17:56:20
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: how many of the crazies who have shot people up, are libs. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a high percentage. Perhaps they know in the back of their minds that THEY are the likely ones we should be worrying about having guns.
(V): clearly there is more violence, both in rhetoric and physical violence, on the liberal side. It's a no brainer.

11. Settembre 2011, 01:49:23
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:You obviously missed that I was trying to be sarcastic. Art has not replied to that post. I wonder if he thinks it is OK to teach a 6 year old child how to shoot in school. After all, you are teaching children to be "patriots".
Iamon lyme: And we mustn't forget IPBM's. Inter-property Ballistic Missiles. Currently they are using water balloons and sling shots, but you KNOW where that leads!!!

11. Settembre 2011, 00:47:51
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Quote of the Day
“[B]arack Obama is no Harry Truman,” Krauthammer said. It’s not that complicated. Obama is over his head. He is a great orator. He came out of nowhere. He dazzled America. He [has] never run anything. He never actually enacted anything even in the legislature. He hadn’t run a state. He hadn’t run a city. He hadn’t run a business. He is running the biggest enterprise in the world and he has not succeeded. And that is why all of these independents, all of those who believed in a soaring rhetoric, including probably a couple who swooned in the aisles as he spoke in 2008, are now waking up and realizing he is a mortal who is in over his head."

11. Settembre 2011, 00:36:24
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: just what percentage of the population do they believe is mindlessly violent and deranged?
Iamon lyme: So true. We were always playing cops and robbers and cowboys and indians. Anything would do for a gun - like a stick. To this day, I've never used a stick to shoot anyone. I did throw a rock once tho.

11. Settembre 2011, 00:29:06
Papa Zoom 
Longshoreman assaults media


google it and you'll see just how well behaved union thugs can be......I'd post the link but the language prohibits it. Keep in mind, you're not seeing the tea party at work here but organized labor.

11. Settembre 2011, 00:18:25
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: just what percentage of the population do they believe is mindlessly violent and deranged?
Iamon lyme: Well we know there are plenty of those in the liberal camp. Just look at the violence at any liberal gathering. Hate speech and violence against persons. Maybe they are afraind of their own?

11. Settembre 2011, 00:03:10
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
Vikings: I live in a hunting community and not one kid I know has grown up to become a killer. On the contrary, they have grown up respecting guns and have learned to handle them responsibly. Liberals never met a freedom they didn't want to destroy.

10. Settembre 2011, 23:56:15
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:You obviously missed that I was trying to be sarcastic. Art has not replied to that post. I wonder if he thinks it is OK to teach a 6 year old child how to shoot in school. After all, you are teaching children to be "patriots".
Iamon lyme: They are making this argument up as they go. Next we will have little Johnny, the terrible 2 year old, driving a tank down the sidewalk trying to take out little Suzie's swimming pool.

10. Settembre 2011, 23:54:45
Papa Zoom 
"Since teachers are not equipped to teach firearms, why not bring in the military? Every school would have a career military instructor teaching kids how to handle guns safely. It makes sense to let an expert teach other how to do things, rather than leaving it to "amateurs" such as school teachers and parents."


Übergeek 바둑이: And since you are also an advocate of sex education in schools, let's take your logic into that area as well.

Since teachers are not equipped to teach sex education, why not bring in professional prostitutes? Better yet, a couple from the porn industry. Every school would have a sex instructor teaching kids how to handle ...er.....sex safely. It makes sense to let an expert teach other how to do things, rather than leaving it to "amateurs" such as school teachers and parents.

10. Settembre 2011, 23:50:15
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:Would be comfortable living next door to a man who has a dozen shotguns in his basement?
Vikings: It's a total false liberal spin. They always play to the worse case scenario. But as I've already pointed out in an earlier post, in a State where carrying a concealed weapon into restaurants and bars etc is the law of the land, crime is down. Not up, down. The libs have their pants down on this issue and have to make up stories in order to support their refuted position.

10. Settembre 2011, 22:25:14
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
Übergeek 바둑이: You don't get it. It isn't ABOUT owning a gun. It's about being responsible. Most liberals miss that point. You focus on the gun and omit the personal responsibility we all have. You CAN own a gun responsibly. And here's a news flash for ya: It's a constitutional right so stop whining about it and move on already. ~sigh

10. Settembre 2011, 20:06:14
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Remember

10. Settembre 2011, 19:53:28
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Awww, if only Bush had said it. You would have read about it in every paper in the US!
September 10, 2011
PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe
Timothy Birdnow




Barack Obama has gone to Congress asking for more money to spend. The President, in a rambling and tedious exercise mixing blame with demands, made quite a few dubious statements in laying out the case for Congress to vote for the plan which as yet does not exist. Much like Obamacare, Congress must ultimately vote for the bill to know what is in it.

At one point Mr. Obama made a major gaffe; he identified Abraham Lincoln as the founder of the Republican Party.

Lincoln did not join the Republicans until 1856, over two years after the party was founded. The first Republican convention was held in Ripon, Wisconsin in 1854.

Such a gaffe would have brought huge amounts of ridicule and derision on George W. Bush, but in the case of Obama the media yawned.

Actually, they did more than yawn; government-funded PBS has altered the transcript of the President's speech, removing the offending comment.

10. Settembre 2011, 17:24:08
Papa Zoom 
September 10, 2011
The American Jobs Act: Why It Will Not Create Jobs
Sara Goss

I'm going to explain how a small business grows in simplest of terms regarding hiring. Since there does seem to be agreement that 70% of the jobs in the United States are created by small businesses then it seems relevant to review how those jobs are created by the small business owner.

You are a small business person. You had an idea. You took a risk. You worked on your idea, you sold your idea, and you managed to make a profit from your sales. The key word here is PROFIT. You have to profit from your enterprise so that you have money to put back into your enterprise. Once you have made enough profit, you can hire additional people. That is how small businesses expand. They make a profit and then invest those profits in expansion by hiring people. Without profits they cannot expand. Without expanding they're not hiring.

So, President Obama says he is going to extend the payroll tax holiday. That's great news for the small business owner. But in the next sentence he says he's going to eliminate those corporate tax loop holes. Huh? If I'm a small business owner I'm listening very carefully to that and here's what I'm hearing: He's going to raise my taxes. What does that do? It reduces my profit. What happens when my profits are reduced? I cannot expand and I cannot hire.

Mr. President, wake up and smell the coffee. You have demonized those horrible people that make a profit to the point where they don't trust you. Nothing would make the small businessman happier than to expand and hire again. But it requires money - profit! And as long as you keep telling them you're going to reach into their pockets and take it, they will not be hiring.

The American Jobs Act, even if passed, will not create jobs.

10. Settembre 2011, 16:58:24
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
Übergeek 바둑이: The reason I didn't reply is your argument is silly. No one is advocating teaching children how to shoot an AK47 or bazzoka. It's about choices. I've said this before. I don't own a gun. That's my choice. No one should force me to own or learn to use a gun. Neither should someone try to force those who choose to own guns, to give them up. I favor gun ownership.

As for your argument that it's "patriotic" to own a gun, that is utter nonsense. It's neither patrotic nor unpatrotic to own or not own a gun.

Another huge flaw in your argument is that the law prohibits guns on school campuses. No one except a police officer can have a gun on a school campus. And schools aren't supposed to be in the business of teaching everything under the sun. However, it's a very good idea to teach kids about gun safety IF and only IF there are guns in the home. And who better to teach them but their own parents? (as opposed to the teachers who may or may not have expertise in firearms).

More people die each year from auto accidents than do from shootings. Let's ban all cars (that's a typical liberal line of reasoning!!!)

10. Settembre 2011, 05:20:16
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Another example of why government is run by morons.
Govt. Spends $4 Million Dollars to House 12 Homeless People
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:44pm by Buck Sexton

Government officials in Bethesda, Maryland, have decided to spend $4 million dollars to provide housing for 12 homeless people for one year.

That’s right. The taxpayer will be providing free housing to a dozen folks in Maryland at the rate of $330,000 per person a year.

This should raise some eyebrows, as the median price of a single family home in the U.S. is $172,000.

10. Settembre 2011, 04:56:29
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:
Marshmud: Amen to that.

All my friends that own guns have had training on how to handle them properly and they routinely go to the shooting range and take safety seriously. One of the guys, a former cop, acts as mentor to the other guys. Now lets see, a group of guys exercising their constitutional right to own a gun and they are extremely responsible for it.

The left wants all guns banned. As if before guns no one was ever murdered. We need more guns, not less.

9. Settembre 2011, 15:55:18
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Britain's Health Care heading our way?
Couldn't happen here?  Think our bureaucrats and politicians are too smart, too brilliant, too caring to ever let this happen?  British NHC bureaucrats have told General Practitioners  to ration the use of cancer scans including ultrasounds, MRIs and CT scans commonly used to spot tumours in order to save money. (GPs told to ration cancer scans in bureaucratic directive | Mail Online)
 
Britain already has one of the lowest cancer survival rates in Europe, and experts say late diagnosis is to blame.  If you don't think this is what Obama's 15 member Medicare Panel is about, I have some aquatically challenged land in Florida that I can let you have at a really good price.
 
Plus patients with ongoing diseases such as lung disease, heart disease and diabetes and others are to be trained to perform their own tests rather than have GP's do it.  Under British NHC, it's no longer "physician heal thyself", it's now patient heal thyself.
 
Welcome to Obamacare, unless the SCOTUS does the right thing next year and takes this ............plan out, to paraphrase what is acceptable discourse to our President.

9. Settembre 2011, 15:47:34
Papa Zoom 
John Merline of IBT has a funny, but true compilation of "code words" and phrases used by Obama in all of his speeches on jobs:


When he says: We inherited $1 trillion in deficits and an economy headed for a second Great Depression.

What he means is: It's all Bush's fault.

When he says: Thanks to my efforts, the economy was growing until this year.

What he means is: It was Bush's fault, but now it's the House Republicans' fault.

When he says: We need to focus on jobs.

What he means is: After $830 billion in stimulus spending, an auto bailout, cash for clunkers and several other multibillion-dollar "jobs" bills, none of which has worked, we need to try more of the same, but please don't call it a stimulus.

When he says: It's time to put country ahead of party.

What he means is: If you don't pass my plan, you're unpatriotic.

When he says: Our politics are broken.

What he means is: Republicans stubbornly refuse to act like potted plants.

When he says: My Republican friends.

What he means is: Those narrow-minded miscreants who are beholden to Tea Party barbarians that we need to "take out" and who, by the way, put party ahead of country (but I'm not questioning their patriotism).

9. Settembre 2011, 02:06:24
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Some people just know how to say it
The Col: You've got to be kidding me. You liken global warming deniers to racists. Amazing.

8. Settembre 2011, 16:09:14
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Only from the left do we get dumb things like this
From the "They can't really be this stupid - can they?" category, an urban anti-violence group in Buffalo, NY conducted a gun "buyback" - targeting Nerf guns. Yes, Nerf guns - the spring-loaded children's toys that fire harmless, spongy little projectiles.

Seems that these simpletons believe that "a toy gun today" invariably leads to a "real gun tomorrow."

One parent said that if the kids have Nerf guns, "Then there's no fear holding the real gun when they get older. We want to put that fear back into our children."

Fear? How about putting some responsibility and discipline into your children instead, so they can responsibly handle guns to defend their freedom when they get older?

Our freedom was bequeathed to us by our Founders, who fought an armed revolution against the British to secure it. James Madison, who wrote in Federalist #46 that Americans have "the advantage of being armed, which [they] possess over the people of almost every other nation" must be rolling in his grave.

8. Settembre 2011, 16:02:23
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Some people just know how to say it
Soon after I published an article questioning the global-warming orthodoxy, the world's foremost hypocrite, Al Gore, informed anyone who still listens to him that my position is akin to racism. The wise course of action would be to ignore the rants of a man who desperately needs the world to remain fearful of carbon, the element on which all life on earth is based. If that fear were to vanish, how would he continue to rake in the millions needed for the purchase of his next beach house?

8. Settembre 2011, 05:04:50
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Death Panels in America... and the Con's supports it!!
The Col: That's hardly the point. But in answer to your question, yes I would.

8. Settembre 2011, 03:46:51
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Death Panels in America... and the Con's supports it!!
Iamon lyme: The worst idea ever was public service employee unions. For a number of reasons, I'd like to see their power minimized. It's our $$

8. Settembre 2011, 02:27:16
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Death Panels in America... and the Con's supports it!!
Iamon lyme: Robin Hood only stole from the rich. I wonder if they were nasty rich people or just regular rich people? Anyway, Obama want's to steal from everyone.

And why doesn't congress have to be on the same health insurance plan as we the people? If we're their bosses, why do they get to decide their own raises?

They are the opposite of Robin. They steal from the working class and keep the money for themselves!

8. Settembre 2011, 01:43:06
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Death Panels in America... and the Con's supports it!!
(V): It's not the job of the government to steal money from people and give it to others. That's Robin Hood's job.

7. Settembre 2011, 16:25:02
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Another vairous source
"Over the Labor Day weekend, I went to a number of events in the Hamptons. At all of them, Obama was discussed. At none of them - that's none - was he defended. That was remarkable. After all, sitting around various lunch and dinner tables were mostly Democrats. Not only that, some of them had been vociferous Obama supporters, giving time and money to his election effort. They were all disillusioned.

Let me call the roll. I am talking about are writers and editors, lawyers and shrinks, Wall Street tycoons and freelance photographers, hedge funders and academics, run-of-the-mill Democrats and Democratic activists. They were all politically sophisticated, and just a year ago some of them were still vociferous Obama supporters. No more."


So you see libs, I (and others on here - conservatives) were right about Obama ALL ALONG. And finally there are some honest liberals that are not only beginning to see the truth about Obama, they are honest enough to state what they now believe. He's a huge disappointment.

But sadly, some of you libs are stuck in the rut and refused to come out.

7. Settembre 2011, 16:21:59
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Yet another liberal seeing the light
"I was hours early for a flight and stuck in a relatively small terminal crammed with people. Only one area in the whole wing had empty seats; an unused gate that contained a TV blaring the CNN broadcast of Obama's Labor Day speech at full volume.

So it was either sit underneath a full-volume broadcast of our fearless president bellowing out his latest hollow promises, or the hellish alternative: retreat to gates full of screaming five year-old children, all of them jacked up on sugar and bawling their eyes out because it was the end of Labor Day weekend and their cruel parents were dragging them home from Disney world.

I ended up choosing the screaming children."

(I don't have to name the source, all I have to say is "various souces")

7. Settembre 2011, 16:19:43
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Another great quote - from Marueen Dowd no less!!!
"Obama is still suffering from the Speech Illusion, the idea that he can come down from the mountain, read from a Teleprompter, cast a magic spell with his words and climb back up the mountain, while we scurry around and do what he proclaimed.

The days of spinning illusions in a Greek temple in a football stadium are done. The One is dancing on the edge of one term. "

gotta love it when even a liberal lib sees the light!

7. Settembre 2011, 16:04:16
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Quote of the Day
"Massive government spending hasn't helped us now and massive government spending did not get us out of the great depression. In fact, government interference in the marketplace and New Deal policies extended the depression by seven years and hurt millions."

7. Settembre 2011, 05:01:33
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Then it would need a rethinking of mass consumption and the use of chemical commodities that damage our bodies.
(V): ya made it up then. Ok, we get it.

7. Settembre 2011, 05:00:55
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Our modern life is driven by overconsumption, overwork, war, economic crisis and political crisis. It comes as no surprise our societies are a mess.
Übergeek 바둑이: OK, that makes sense and I was thinking too of the stress under the Roman Empire. There are probably cultures where factors that lead to depression etc are much less. What do we know about them? I'm thinking of Hawaiian culture. I have a friend and we joke that he's always on Hawaiian time (born and raised there) and he takes things in stride. For some cultures, "I'll be there Tuesday" means whenever I get there, it will still be Tuesday. In my world, it's "I'll be there on Tuesday at 4pm" Deadlines, competition, evaluations, on and on. No wonder we're all going nuts!

I wonder if that's why some in Australia went on a "walk about." Just to get away, no deadline, no pressures, no plans, just come what may.

6. Settembre 2011, 21:27:15
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: Figures from other organisations
(V): such as?

Or did you make that up?

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