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On the amazon site you will see a reviewer writes ?Once, while on a trip with two governors, Johnson reportedly made the following comment in explaining why the civil rights bill was so important to him. He said it was simple: ?I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years.? ?
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Jim Dandy: Frankly I haven't read it in it's entirety. It seems that it plays heavily on the use of sarcasm. It seems to me that he was trying to make a point and he didn't chose the best way to do it. But I don't see the ultimate point of your question. If you plan to take this letter and turn it into "see, the Tea Party IS racist" then you are either deceitful or unwillingly ignorant. If you only mean to say that this man used poor judgment to make a point, then I would agree.
I think Williams attempted to make a bigger point but some of the things he wrote could have been taken in ways that seem racist.
But aren't you getting tired of these lazy accusations of racism? The left plays this card so often that when I hear it now, I just smile and say, "there they go again." How predictable.
The Tea Party is NOT a racist organization. And it will take more than one misguided letter to demonstrate a consistent pattern of racism. In fact, you can't demonstrate anything close to that.
But weren't we talking about the Democratic party and their L O N G history of racism in the US? Yes, we were. And history clearly shows that racism was a Democratic behavior. It seems to me you are ignoring all my posts and facts presented and doing what most liberals do: change the subject.
Some will make a big deal of the letter. And maybe they should. But it reflects NOT on the Tea Party as a whole, it reflects on Mark Williams.
That cannot be said of the Democratic party. They were up to their armpits in racist actions.
People might like to point to President Johnson and all the civil rights legislation his administration put forward. But look closer and you will see a politician that realized he could win the "n word" vote by buying them with legislation that only seemed to be steps forward. Johnson admitted to this. "I'll have them damn "n word" voting democratic for 200 years when I'm through." Somewhat paraphrased but that's what he said.
So what about that letter? The left will make it a big deal while their own racist history gets swept under the rug.
A GALLUP poll released today places Sarah Palin above all other likely Republican candidates with regard to popularity and favorability.
Today's poll also revealed that all Americans favor Palin by 44% to 47% who do not.
The guts of Palin's 2012 potential sit with Obama's current status. GALLUP's approval rating of Obama shows 44% with a disapproval of 48% -- which sets him very close to Palin.
Statistically, if Palin and Obama ran against the other today, not one stands a better chance above the other
Ferris Bueller: And the Democrats STILL issue policies that are racist in many ways. And it's the left that routinely plays the race card. Speak against Obama and you're a racist. Speak against Obama if you are also a black person, and you are an Uncle Tom. This nonsense comes from people on the left. And there are LOTS of them. Obama's base.
The reason that a discussion of race is important is because there are those on the left that are playing the race card with increasing frequency. Even if they have to create racism and blame it on the right, they are not above such things, as the posts below clearly show.
Far-left Think Progress Fabricates Examples of Tea Party Racism for Bogus Video by Lachlan Markay Liberal activists are so desperate to paint the Tea Party as racist that some, apparently, are willing to fabricate evidence and fallaciously draw unsupported conclusions to support their point.
Lee Fang, a writer for the far-left blog Think Progress, recently posted a video purporting to show racism at Tea Parties. But the video was a total fraud. It took statements out of context, claimed racism where there really was none, claimed liberal plants were authentic members of the movement, and even used video from 2006, three years before the movement existed!
Liberal writers at the Nation and the Huffington Post, as well as former Fox News cohost Alan Colmes all trumpeted the Think Progress video as evidence of Tea Party racism, despite the easily-verifiable evidence to the contrary.
One activist, who says he's "proud to be a racist," is a well-documented Tea Party "crasher" -- one of the tremendously unsuccessful (despite Think Progress's best efforts) counter-protesters that attempted to infiltrate rallies and pose as racists and other undesirables.
In a video titled, ironically, "Proof that the Tea Party is not racist," this man is singled out, hounded, and chased from a rally. The video is six minutes long, so there is no way that Think Progress spliced out the portion that it did without seeing the context -- without knowing that this man was a plant. No matter, he fit the narrative, truth be damned.
Argomento: That said, here are some facts about racism and the Democratic party.
It's history folks. And it's NOT that long ago. But it's being ignored. In fact, most of you here will excuse this away or simply ignore it.
The Ku Klux Klan, Terrorist Wing of the Democratic Party by Michael Zak Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) has falsely accused the Tea Party of having ties to the Ku Klux Klan. Speaking at the NAACP convention, she said: “All those who wore sheets a long time ago lifted them off to wear Tea Party clothing.”
Now is the time to speak some Truth to Power.
It would have been far more truthful for the congresswoman to have admitted the fact that all those who wore sheets a long time ago lifted them to wear Democratic Party clothing. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan was established by the Democratic Party. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan murdered thousands of Republicans — African-American and white – in the years following the Civil War. Yes, the Republican Party and a Republican President, Ulysses Grant, destroyed the KKK with their Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.
How did the Ku Klux Klan re-emerge in the 20th century? For that, the Democratic Party is to blame.
It was a racist Democrat President, Woodrow Wilson, who premiered Birth of a Nation in the White House. That racist movie was based on a racist book written by one of Wilson’s racist friends from college. In 1915, the movie spawned the modern-day Klan, with its burning crosses and white sheets.
Inspired by the movie, some Georgia Democrats revived the Klan. Soon, the Ku Klux Klan again became a powerful force within the Democratic Party. The KKK so dominated the 1924 Democratic Convention that Republicans, speaking truth to power, called it the Klanbake. In the 1930s, a Democrat President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, appointed a Klansman, Senator Hugo Black (D-AL), to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the 1950s, the Klansmen against whom the civil rights movement struggled were Democrats. The notorious police commissioner Bull Connor, who attacked African-Americans with dogs and clubs and fire hoses, was both a Klansman and the Democratic Party’s National Committeeman for Alabama. Starting in the 1980s, the Democratic Party elevated a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), to third-in-line for the presidency.
Speaking more Truth to Power, the Republican Party has been a resolute enemy of the Ku Klux Klan, terrorist wing of the Democratic Party.
To quote from Back to Basics for the Republican Party, “The more we Republicans know about the history of our party, the more the Democrats will worry about the future of theirs.” See www.grandoldpartisan.com for more information.
Jim Dandy: Yes it is. But not as sensitive as it is to the babies in the womb that feel the pain of being killed. We have grown so callous about abortion and are more concerned about offending the sensitivities of others than we are about killing an unborn human being. Let's not bring up topics that might offend but hey, let's slice and dice those little ones sleeping in their mommy's tummys.
Abortion has never been a woman's rights issue. That's a smoke screen. It's a human rights issue and a civil rights issue. There's big money to be made ripping unborn children from the womb. They get boiled in acid and then have their little legs, arms, body, and head ripped apart. In the procedure that Obama approves of, they are partially born, turned upside down, a needle is injected into the skull and their entire brain is sucked out. The skull is collapsed and the dead child removed. It's discarded like a piece of garbage.
Pro choice folks mostly want a sterile discussion centered around the woman's right to choose. The reality is that we're killing off future generations. The history of planned parenthood can be shown to be racist. consider this:
Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."
Several years ago, when 17,000 aborted babies were found in a dumpster outside a pathology laboratory in Los, Angeles, California, some 12-15,000 were observed to be black."
--Erma Clardy Craven (deceased) Social Worker and Civil Rights Leader
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.
Argomento: Re: Sharron caused a stir with her position against abortion even in cases of rape and incest
Jim Dandy: that's my position. So I don't see it as causing a stir. The ONLY time abortion is justified is when the life of the mother is in immediate threat. Unfortunately, even this "immediate threat" has to be defined. It means that if the mother continues with the pregnancy, there's a huge chance she will die.
The reason I'm against abortion would prohibit an abortion even in the case of rape and incest. Otherwise my position would be inconsistent and irrational.
Argomento: Re: present Republican form of conservativism isn't, and hasn't been for years
Jim Dandy: What you call a witch hunt is what political parties do all day long. They find the chink in the armor of an opponent and they go after that. Democrats, Republicans, Whateverans, they ALL do it.
The NAACP just passed a resolution against the Tea Party. Are they on a witch hunt?
To be on a witch hunt, you have to be looking for issues/problems that don't exist. In Salem, they were looking for witches which some there were only happy to help find. Even if that meant lying (which most did if not all). The Tea Party is not a a witch hunt. They are a political group exercising their Constitutional right to participate in the political process. And consistent with that right is their right to oppose candidates that don't represent their views. Additionally, they have the right to actively oppose those politicians with campaigns to defeat those they oppose and put in place those with whom they agree. This is what ALL parties do.
So what is wrong with that? Simply calling something a witch hunt explains nothing. It's a lazy way to have a discussion. He's a liar. She's a racist. They are on a witch hunt. What the hell kind of argument are those lazy statements? They say nothing unless backed with a rational and well formulated argument with examples and explanations. You've given the former and totally avoided the latter.
What makes your statements against the Tea Party any less of a witch hunt as you put it?
Argomento: Re: present Republican form of conservativism isn't, and hasn't been for years
Jim Dandy: I've checked her out a little. I'm not seeing a major story here. Aside from a few remarks that some found objectionable, she's a politician. She's NOT the Tea Party. She IS a Tea Party favorite. Lower taxes, support small business growth (the real backbone of the US economy) smaller government, State's rights, adherence to the Constitution - sounds good to me.
100,000 dollars have been offered for ANYONE that can show video where someone yelled the "n" word at a the Tea Party Rally. NO ONE has come forward to collect.
The liberals simply lied once again. And the NAACP is playing the race card, again. Identity politics. Shameful
Breitbart Exposes the ‘N Word’ Lie on Hannity by Larry O'Connor Andrew Breitbart appeared on the ‘Hannity’ show tonight to discuss the NAACP’s resolution condemning the Tea Party Movement as racist. The NAACP used the dubious claims of Rep. Andre Carson, that fifteen protestors yelled racial slurs at him fifteen times on March 20th prior to a vote on ObamaCare in Washington DC.
Breitbart conducted a search of all available video of the moment Rep. Carson described – as he and Rep. John Lewis “came down the steps at (the) Cannon” Office Building on their way to the Capitol.
This segment on ‘Hannity’ marks the very first time these videos, which show no evidence of anyone shouting racial slurs and which contradict every description Rep. Carson made of the scene, have been shown on national television.
Given that this false charge has become the basis for the nation’s oldest and most respected civil rights organization to label an entire political movement as racist, it will be instructive to see which other media outlets pick up the story as well.
For their convenience, we will be happy to make all of the the unedited videos available for them
Argomento: Re: present Republican form of conservativism isn't, and hasn't been for years
Jim Dandy: What precisely is wrong with the Tea Party movement? I've read what they stand for and it's clearly the core values of historic conservatism.
Argomento: Re: present Republican form of conservativism isn't, and hasn't been for years
Jim Dandy: This is precisely why many incumbent Republicans are targets for replacement. Big spending and Conservatism don't go together and it's true that the Republicans have seriously lost their way.
Argomento: More facts the liberals here will ignore or excuse away
Public confidence in President Obama has hit a new low, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll. Four months before midterm elections that will define the second half of his term, nearly six in 10 voters say they lack faith in the president to make the right decisions for the country, and a clear majority once again disapproves of how he is dealing with the economy.
Regard for Obama is still higher than it is for members of Congress, but the gap has narrowed. About seven in 10 registered voters say they lack confidence in Democratic lawmakers and a similar proportion say so of Republican lawmakers.........
...Independents -- that amorphous body that usually determines elections -- are continuing to migrate away from the Democratic Party. That party is increasingly identified by its leaders: Pelosi, Reid and Obama. They are to the left of many members of the party, but have dragged other party members who have done their bidding for them off the cliff, as well. Many more people identify themselves as conservatives than liberals......
Argomento: Most Transparent Administration Ever Makes Effective Reporting from Gulf a Felony
I probably won't get any responses but what do you US liberals think of this policy? I know that if it were Fox complaining you'd side with Obama. But hey, it's CNN.
Most Transparent Administration Ever Makes Effective Reporting from Gulf a Felony by Lachlan Markay 1 person liked this Effectively reporting on the Gulf oil spill is now a Class D felony, punishable by a fine of up to $40,000.
That's right, the most transparent administration in history has made it a felony, effective July 1, to get within 65 feet of what the Coast Guard determines are essential recovery efforts. According to Anderson Cooper, officials tried to up that number to 300 feet.
Cooper, who claimed federal officials prevented CNN on two occasions from taking photographs in the gulf, seemed frustrated when he reported on the new laws the day they went into effect. The press is "not the enemy here" he pleaded. The new policies, he said, make it "very easy to hide failure, and hide incompetence."
(V): Who ever said Fox was just about the news? You're living in lala land. Why do you make so many strawmen? Can you not form an argument based on something that is actually true?
Most Americans who supported Obama are reluctant to abandon him at this point. But MANY supporters are beginning to question his competence. Some former supporters are outright turning their backs on Obama. And as the country continues to struggle, as massive spending continues, as unemployment rises, and as more and more controversies come to light within the DNC, the downward trend of support for Obama will likely continue. Look for the Democrats to FORCE through as many policy changes as they can as they betray the US even more.
These data are based on Gallup Daily tracking interviews conducted the week of June 28-July 4.
Over the past year, Obama has lost support among all party groups, though the decline has been steeper among independents than among Republicans or Democrats. Today's 38% approval rating among independents is 18 percentage points lower than the 56% found July 6-12, 2009. During the same period, his support has fallen nine points among Democrats (from 90% to 81%) and eight points among Republicans (from 20% to 12%).
Overall, 46% of Americans approve of the job Obama is doing as president in the June 28-July 4 aggregate, one point above his lowest weekly average. Obama's average weekly job approval rating has not been above 50% since Feb. 8-14, though it reached the 50% mark as recently as May 3-9.
Obama's lower ratings come amid a still-struggling economy, the ongoing difficulties presented by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and the recent change of command in the war in Afghanistan. Underscoring the challenge at hand, Obama's 44% approval rating in July 2-5 polling (Gallup did not interview July 4) ties his lowest three-day average to date.
Bottom Line
Obama is not alone in facing a challenging second year in office -- Bill Clinton (43%), Ronald Reagan (42%), and Jimmy Carter (40%) all were below the majority approval level in July of their second year. Of course, each of those presidents saw his party lose a substantial number of seats in that year's midterm congressional elections, though both Reagan and Clinton recovered in time to win a second term as president.
in 2006 both houses of Congress went majority Democrat. From then to the end of this year, a mere four years, federal debt held by the public will have grown from about $5 trillion$(37% of GDP) to almost $9 trillion (60% of GDP). At the same time, unemployment more than doubled, from 4.4% to 9.5%.
I am a black tea party patriot faced with a serious problem concerning my 83-year-old father. Dad is an extraordinary man whose life epitomizes the greatness of America. In the ’50s, married with a wife and three kids and employed as a laborer, Dad was among the first blacks to break the color barrier into the Baltimore Fire Dept. The white firefighters treated Dad like scum and boldly displayed their displeasure with having an “n” in their firehouse.
Dad was the young associate pastor of a storefront church. He treated his “haters” with love and strove to be the best Christian and firefighter he could be. Dad won “Firefighter of the Year” two times and eventually the respect and admiration of his white fellow firefighters. A white firefighter who once threatened to punch Dad in his “black nose” risked his life by going back into a burning building to save Dad. The two firefighters became lifelong friends. While married with a wife and five kids, working as a firefighter and an associate pastor, Dad attended college part-time until he graduated. Dad later earned his doctorate degree, which led to him pastoring large churches and authoring a book. Dad also became Chaplain of the Baltimore Fire Dept. Dad’s success story is the result of his character, faith in Christ, and hard work. Dad earned every achievement; no liberal Democrat demanded lowered standards or entitlement programs for him. Now, here is my problem I mentioned: Dad loves Barack Obama, a man whose philosophy goes against everything I thought my dad stood for. Despite my attempts to convince Dad otherwise, based on my personal experiences attending over two hundred tea parties across America traveling on Tea Party Express, Dad persists in believing the rallies are racist. Dad believes all criticism of Obama and his agenda is racist. It appears that no amount of truth will penetrate the wall of affection Dad has for the historic figure he never imagined would exist in his lifetime. Out of respect, I have not confronted Dad, my hero, regarding his irrational support for a president whose agenda so radically goes against his Christian faith — gay marriage, abortion, the murderous partial birth abortion, etc. I also thought, “Dad still bears emotional scars from the horrible racism he experienced in his youth. So perhaps I should be a good son, give the old man a pass, and let him enjoy his black president.” But witnessing the growing tyranny of the Obama regime and his American death march to socialism, I have come to realize it is my patriotic duty to confront my father with the facts about Obama. The stakes are far too high to simply let the old black man enjoy worshiping his first black president. No! America is at risk. Though in his eighties, Dad is still sharp and pastors four churches. He is bright, articulate, and most importantly come November, a voter with influence. Whether Dad chooses to accept them or not, I must inform him of the facts about Obama’s agenda. Then, when Dad goes behind the curtain of the voting booth, he will have to chose between pulling the lever for Godly principles or skin color. Most of Dad’s idolatry for president Obama is centered around his skin color. Racism and idolatry are wrong, even when committed by my beloved Dad. I have faith that still surviving deep within dad’s “Obama Zombie” brain is the wise, wonderful, righteous, and Christian man I have known all of my life. Disapproving relatives have expressed fear for my safety, warning, “Lloyd is foolishly putting his head on the chopping block!” Think about that, folks. My black relatives fear I may suffer physical harm from fellow blacks for daring to disagree with our black president. Meanwhile, whites are afraid to speak out against our black president for fear of being called racist. Dear Lord, what is going on in our country? Patriot brothers and sisters, the bottom line is that while I am not advocating rudeness or bad behavior, it is time we stand up and be more confrontational for our freedoms, liberty, and culture. Prayerfully ask God for wisdom regarding the proper timing and approach. But we must start confronting Obama-ites with the truth. We cannot allow ourselves to be silenced for fear of being called racist and other threats. Admittedly, this will be uncomfortable. But many before us have sacrificed all for America. America is worth a little discomfort. My prayers, love, and support are with you. God bless. – Lloyd Marcus, proud unhyphenated American lloydmarcus.com Spokesperson/Entertainer of Tea Party Movement & Tea Party Express The American Tea Party Anthem CD/album Author of Confessions of a Black Conservative, foreword by Michelle Malkin President, NAACPC (National Association for the Advancement of Conservative People of ALL Colors) Join Lloyd Marcus’s Facebook page
Huge scandal against the DNC. It's gonna get bigger. Some blacks were told that if they weren't voting for Obama, they needn't vote. hmmmmm. They were told to leave the voting site. This story will only grow and get worse.
Who are the complainants? Democrats against democrats. And they have tons of evidence.
Bashing Palin and Fox with cute little sound bites and weak-kneed sarcasm isn't a rational argument. It's typical of the left because they can't form a logical argument, but they are very good at calling names.
I asked you liberals some GOOD questions which you choose to ignore. Instead, you mock Palin (who cares about Palin anymore...not me!) and make fun of Fox (which is totally ignorant. Fox is the leader in cable news AND all the other cable news outlets are struggling (not Fox). NETWORK news is in the basement and will likely be gone in a few years. No one really watches them if they want REAL news. Independent studies have confirmed this fact.
You people read stuff on the Huffington post and consider your source unbiased. You think MSNBC is reliable. And yet NONE of those outfits covered the story in any depth of voter intimidation by the Black Panthers. ONLY FOX covered it fully and is still following it. But you don't care about real justice. It's ok because the Panthers are black. If they were white, and if Bush were the president, you'd all be spitting mad.
Obama must have had very average grades in high school, since he only ended up at the moderately competitive Occidental College. With affirmative action, even an average set of grades would have gotten him into a more competitive undergraduate institution. This is no surprise since he admits to cutting class and doing drugs for most of his time in high school. It's also hard to gauge his academic turnaround since no one at Columbia University seems to have known him and both Obama and Columbia refuse to release his transcripts, compared with say, George Bush, whose undergraduate transcript you can see here. http://www.americanpolitics.com/bushtranscript.html.
Tuesday: Try to find Obama's grades for HS or college. They are known as the missing years. He refuses to release the records. Any guesses why that is the case?
Not only does Todd Gaziano (Congressional appointee on the United States Commission on Civil Rights) claim that the 2008 Election Day voter intimidation charge against the Philadelphia New Black Panther Party was ‘open and shut’, but that US Assistant Attorney General Deputy Julie Fernandez ordered, 'Never bring another lawsuit against a black or other national minority, apparently no matter what they do.'
And the currently state of the US IS the fault of progressives and the sooner we rid this country of their lot the better. They shall be defeated. They are evil.
A true conservative is simply one that adheres to the core principles of conservatism. It's not a mystery. People have the right to hold to a position and vote in those that best represent their views. Nothing mysterious about that. Each and every one of you do this very thing. So why are you mocking others for simply doing the very same thing you all do everyday? Makes no sense.
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