Cartesian: I second that.

Cartesian: That's how I originally joined IYT and then this site, looking to play Ultima. I believe I did request it a couple of years ago too. Have you seen or played the Roccoco version of it? I haven't but it looks like it'd be a good game too.

KotDb, Cartesian: Do you guys turn a Rook over for the Immobilizer, or do as we do and put a bottle cap on it? I have thought up a good design for some of the pieces, but we always have used a Chess set. If Fencer was to add Ultima to the site, I have some ideas for the icons that could be used. Though I suppose the Chess icons would work fine and a bottle cap or upsided down Rook would work for the Immobilizer.

Did you ever play Chessmen against Ultimamen?

Walter Montego: Well I follow Abbot and turn over the Rook. But I really like the Alternate Ultima Pieces (see http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/ultima.html) which look good on flat boards or screens.

Cartesian: http://www.chessvariants.org/other.dir/ultima.html

Your link has a bracket on the end of it and messes up where it sends you.

Utlimamen versus Chessmen is just that. One player gets Chessmen and the other plays with Ultimamen. Chessmen are very strong against the Ultimamen. The Immobilizer is an exception. Even though it can't capture a piece, I feel it is stronger than the Queen. Chamelions are pretty strong against the Chessmen too, though you have to agree to whether they can take Knights or not. It seems that the few times I played this game we didn't allow them to capture Knights as they couldn't move like them. IF the game was played more often and win and losses got too onesided in favor of the Chessmen, you could allow them to capture Knights as one way to attempt to balance the game. We also played that the Ultimamen could move as far as they wanted too, like in the original version of Ultima.

Walter Montego: Sorry about that bracket (but you found the icons).

Thanks for the description - inetresting.

I always play the original Ultima - I think nobody much plays the suggesition to limit moves.

Walter Montego: What is Ultimamen vs Chessmen?

Rococco would be fun..