To all those that entered.

Here follows a copy of the message that i`ve posted on my tournament page concerning EBT.

(NOTICE)4/11/03 Because of all the site problems i have decided to cancel this tournament with immediate effect. If players wish to continue with the tournament then please feel free but please be aware that NO PRIZE will now be offered since i intend to re-run the whole tournament at a later date when all the site faults are corrected. Sorry for the disappointment that this may cause.!

I have done this because of the difficulties that may arise from having moves "Rolled back" to the the earlier date with a good example being possible different results than they where originally.!

I will not be deleting the tournament, so please feel free to continue if you so wish.

Thanks.

anybody that has a game with me that they know they won me on 100 % please message me so i can resign the game , im working my way through the ones i know of , would be nice if other people did the same .(could save months of redoing games that should already be done )

As soon as Fencer logs back in your upgrade will be a done deal mrloupcity. The list of sponsers and those to be sponsered all got lost in the crash and I'm trying to reconstitute it. It's a big job because I can't get hold of everybody and can't tell what payments have been sent in and which haven't. Working on it though.

I'm not mad. If u read my first note i said the games was just like spilled milk and water over the dam. All I have been asking if someone on the 1st paid a membership canit and will it be found.
harley as to asking Chief KM, I was hoping that they may read my question or the person that sponsor a pawn may also read it here. But guess this is not the place to bring it up. Yes I will ask Chief about it. I just wanted to know if it maybe found but, I guess by all the notes here it will not be.
Again TYVM for everones time.
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their apology from yesterday is still valid I guess,
not only slow loading (on 1.5mps) also lots of errors ~*~

its your turn is working fine for me shes,school,tex lol , i do get an error page every now and again but a refresh usually gets rid of it

I didn't know IYT had a rating system at all. When I asked them about it, they said to go to my profile and put anything in there I wanted to. Since it was meaningless, I didn't bother. Besides, I'd have to consult with somebody to figure out what to put.

mrloupcity, wait! Don't go away angry. I don't know if you haven't gotten an answer out of neglect, or if no one knows. Maybe you could PM the big boss of the fellowship that was sponsoring you, and ask them? Was that BBW? He could even be checking into it for you. It would be a pity if you went away mad, and it wasn't necessary.

Ooops, while I was typing my rather wordy response, harley answered the question. Well, so it's a little hectic today. I'm leaving what I said up there.

Now, has anyone actually played in IYT today? EVERY play, I get an error. They say they know about it, and it will be fixed in a few days. But, it seems that no one is exempt from problems.

Maybe a temporary catch of reason could be
to create a brainking down hateletter board ...

I admit it's not easy for me either to look at
the brainking page now without tendency to nausea.

As again perhaps only the biggest nerds are
granted to draw advantage of a data-crash like
it happened the last time ... no need to name.

For a serious, competitive player it's just worse case period
while those who are here just to share their neat reviews
of history would be comfy with any chatroom.

But it's the day after ( dejavu ? )

Fencer is worn out most likely and, maybe
just Captain America yet would perform then
full of patience and composure, when commenting.

There will be still some workout,
the bk neon sign shines again, after all ... :)

please take it that your one-arm bandit did
not freeze at jackpot during the power-outage :D

and po-lease you very few nohew try to be sportsmen this time.

Good evening America, good night Europe - uhmm and good morning Rod :P ~*~

mrloupcity - I apologise if you thought I was ignoring you, I'm trying to do a lot of things at once! I did answer your question by email the other day, the person to ask is Chief KM, he is the 'main man' of the KM's and can help you with your question. :o)

LMAO! Oh slam you are on fire today!

iT iZ BeTtEr 2 Be Pee'd ofF tHAn PEe'd oN.

...ReLaX...Be@1w/yOUrsELf.

HARLEY OR FENCER
WELL, I SEE AS A PEE-ON AND A UNKNOWN I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER. MOST EVERY TALKING AND GETTING REPLIES. SO I GUESS I WILL JUST GO BACK TO SHUTTING MY MOUTH. AND PLAY MY GAMES.
TYVM EVERYONE FOR THE TIME AND FUN.

guess we are all in the same boat! ;o) Goodluck everyone to reach for your high BKR once again..

i'd just like to know why there is a rating system at all...!!??....apparently nobody takes much intrest in it....IYT has a % type rating and it seems to work there....if everybody is so casual about how the ratings can just wipe away 2 months of rating points why not the entire amount....go to something different....what a good time to do that....make it interesting again...maybe think up something all together new....

i think clouddog and spyder joined in oct so i gues i have to wait for them to re enroll

Hahahaha! I'm with Slam. Pardon me while I roll on the floor where the furniture was laughing myself silly. I missed you guys.

Hi High Tide. *tries not to be redundant* Nice to see you on the boards.

You got up to 2156 beating me, b-b? Man, I gotta pay attention. I lost rating points too, but I don't care. I'll just have to find somebody like me to pick on.

juls31, click on 'Player List' in the menu and type their name in. It will come up and you can click on their names for their profiles and invite them again.

hey Maxxina.....if you have the game we played ..i don't have it on my game sheet...i can't send it if it's my turn because it's not here to send...

High Tide, on your main page when you log on you will see a link with an explanation of what has happened. Put simply, there was a bad crash and everything has gone back to how it was in September.

dANg...yAw aCt LiKe a BuNch oF HeLeN KeLLeRz wHo hAd tHEir FuRnItURe ReArRaNgEd.

Thanks for your heartfelt sympathy Slam! rofl!

I got one of this game too . Its a game which you played before 9/15 . The time of this game is over . Its on 0 :) But dont worry and play :)

i am not bothered about the games but i had started to play against clouddog, spyder and downtown how to i find them !

why are 5 of the games on my sheet have 0 for time...

pOoR BuMBLe..
NoT!
HehEHehEHehEHe!

3 days ago my backgammon rating was 2156 - now it's 1648.

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind! It's only a game. It'll be fun trying to reach 2156 again!

i seem to have games from last week but i also have games that were backed up the last time this happened...i have a tank game that is backed up farther than it was the last time this happened on a sunday and monday a few months ago...why is that game on my game sheet again...this is the 3rd try this guy has of winning this game..!!!

Jason : I lost many games too . Not only couple- about 60 +- . 600 games is a big number thats right , but its only games not health

LOL well you know, we all lost games. Some take it harder than others depending one how you see the games and how serious a player you are. Obviously many are going to be upset, and many more will take it in their stride and carry on.

whatever happens to the ratings some people wont be happy (me included with some games ) , steve make that 8% lolol

why is there ratings here...this would be a good time to go to a percentage type rating....it seems this is going to happen time and time again so why have a rating system like the one that's in place here...it's not accurate anymore....why not just get rid of something that's not working...that would solve alot of the arguments here

I lost best part of 500 , nothing we can do about it Jason :o( It felt like 5% of them were with you too LMAO

*sigh*

only a couple of games ?????? i lost nearly 600 so speak for yourself

People people people . sometimes problems happend , sometimes big problem happend . It happend now. Couple of games was lost , and whats up . Everybody survived , only ego of some people was shot down , because he lost a points . I lost a points too. But i will take me Bkr back in honest fight and show to world im still good . Made it as me :)

I agree, harley.

What I find disappointing is the lack of understanding. The first players back on here were fantastic about the situation. Rolled their sleeves up and got stuck into sorting things out. If only everyone was so resilient.

This is absolutely disappointing. As someone who has managed backup and restore operations for a small company, I would be fired immediately if I lost 6 weeks worth of data. I understand you might not have the financial resources to fix what has broken and that is disappointing as well.
I don't want to get in a fight with anyone, so I will just go ahead and fire brainking.com.

Best wishes for the future.
Max

Greg,
I don't want to start another argument so I'll say it shortly:

1) It's everyone's right to stop playing here and it is not necessary to announce it at discussion boards.
2) When you make large enterprise applications, you usually don't do it alone and as a side project.
3) I never criticize someone else's work unless I know as much background information as possible. Especially when the work covers more jobs than a mere programming.

Just wait for Brainking being my full-time job, then you can judge me.

wOw,gREg..gUeSs yOu hIt yOUr ReLeASe "vALVe".

Rose, I think that's a great idea. I'd like to donate my 3 months back.

As far as remembering who won or lost games, I can't remember my own name, much less....now who are you? I'll vote for just starting from here. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to just resign all my games, and if my opponents don't want to agree to a draw, they can have them. If we were playing for permanent things like Master Points (Duplicate Bridge), I might be a little testy. But, I just can't get up any anger about this.

jason, honey, don't be cross. Fencer and Liquid are doing everything they can to insure this will never happen again. Let's just start here, and go forward. What is behind us is a wasteland, but we have each other. We can laugh and get through this.

And I realize that you have asked to have this done privately but it's time that things be said that should have been said a long time ago. I recognize that many of you have built up a community here which is an investment of your time and energy. I respect that. I cannot however respect this insipid cheerleading for a site that, in all fairness, is average. True, the scope of the games here is breathtaking and Fencer does play a more visible role in running this site than the owners of IYT or GoldToken (though I only have a passing knowledge of GT). That is commendable. I put my money where my mouth was and paid for a membership to a site that is really just limping along. I tried to encourage people to become members but honestly, how can I recommend a site that I myself am becoming dissappointed in? In short, this site is poorly managed by Fencer as a system administrator and as a benevolent owner. Between the bickering that he chooses to ignore by action if not by words and the ridiculous hardware issues I can no longer play here. However irrationally, I am angry at Fencer for his apparent inability to see that his creation is tarnishing and falling apart before him. What Fencer does not understand is that investment in time or money creates a certain expectation and when that expectation is dashed, it creates feelings of resentment and anger. This fiasco was completely avoidable and is avoided every day by companies with less money than Fencer has. I have been a system administrator for 8 years now, I am also a web programmer, I have made large enterprise web applications. I know what I am talking about when I say that money is not the issue at BrainKing, the underlying infrastructure and technology is. Coupled with Fencer's apparent innocence in providing customer service that is firm AND fair and really I don't see the value in being aggravated by playing here. I said I was angry, in fact, I'm also sad. I am a good player. Not the best but I am good. And I play some of the best here. But I won't be playing them any longer unless we can find some other mutually beneficial site to p(l)ay at.

I earnestly wish you all the luck in the world, Fencer. If anyone deserves to have his creation bear fruit and grow, you do. You've put a lot of time into this site and you truly care for it, which is rare. However, the future of BrainKing will not have me in it.

Greg

wHy nOt jUs pLAy 'Em oUt?
aFtErALL..wE'Re aLL iN tHa sAMe bOAt.

May I suggest that if games are to be wiped out it's done soon.

Many people have dozens of games going and they aren't going to be happy to wade through them only to find they're wiped out at a later date.

BBW that was going to be my next question. The weekend before the crash my membership was to be paid by the do the sponsor a pawn thing that the KM does. So I guess that info is gone to? Maybe the person that did it for me could please tell BK when they did it. So that maybe I could get my membership that I was hoping for.

i sHaLL pLAy My gAmEz tHRu..wIn oR LoSe.

I agree.. those I remember I lost I resign, those I don't know, I aks my opponent, if we both can't remember I ask for a draw and start up new games..

the only thing I haven't thought about is what to do with the to be started tourny's in my fellowhsip; but they were running before the crash.. should i start them up again? Or create new ones or delete them? any suggestions? What are others doing in their fellowships??

thanks!

were you at one stage using auto login and it has been reset to that Medic?

Fencer, I cant seem to logout of here. Closing my browser doesnt work either, I tried :(