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15. 7月 2006, 00:43:52
DMatt 
WCC does not annotate games. Sure it's a great tool, but it has no concept of strategy, and it certainly cannot distill essential elements into curt explanations that make sense. BTW, Alex has Nemesis and WCC and Kingsrow and Cake, so why can't he use them to annotate his own games? For that matter, since thousands of copies of WCC were sold, why didn't Alex contact any of these people to have them annotate their games?

I'll tell you why. Because I have a unique perspective that Alex values, and I can explain things in ways that are instructive and worthwhile.

You may recall, a while back, there was another discussion involving ustica, pedro, and myself. Ustica said something like "you would have shown more courage to play move X-Y in your game with me rather than W-Z which is an easy draw", to which my reply was "X-Y loses." Pedro chimed in, claim the move would not lose, so we played a complete game where he agreed to play move X-Y and I would play the other side.

It took about 117 moves if you count both sides's moves, but I won.

Can I see 117 moves ahead in a position with about 18 pieces on the board?

No, of course not.

It was my intuition based on many, many games that lead me to make the claim that I could win from that position. And you know Pedro was gunning for me, trying like heck to hold down the draw.

Even you cannot convince this board that a program is able to perform a 119 ply search and call a win a win from that distance.

Regarding Ron King, you missed the point entirely. Ron King did not drive 500+ miles to your house to play some checkers with you.

Alex did drive such a distance to play me.

15. 7月 2006, 00:52:56
gooner 
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DMatt: As always you miss the positives and always concentrate on the negatives. When a player like Alex makes that opinion you listen as he knows more than any of us. So when will we see you in a tourney? You seem so adament to defend your corner, yet the obvious way to finish off the critics is to play in tourney conditions, which seeing your personality would be something you should do and I would be the first to hold my hand up and apologise. The choice is yours but I can guess the answer.

btw...Grim Reaper or DMatt? Do you really need both?

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