Fencer: I wouldn't know, I'm not on a slow connection right now, my pages load way to fast to reproduce it :)
but looking for the source code of the page, I can see you did as I suggested. If it still happens to me again, I'll make sure to tell you.

Thanks

I think there should be a checkers game without the forced move rule...

Huh?

Daniel Snyder: Do you mean where you don't have to jump to take opponents pieces if you choose not to?

i loved it when the corresponding bkr was shown next to someones name when he/she posted something on that board

now most boards are about groups of games so a single bkr cant be shown anymore .. would it be possible to show some sort of average bkr of the corresponding group for that player (like the average bkr of both froglet games or when that player only played 1 variant show the bkr itself) ?

Hrqls: Good idea.

you mean average bkr of games from that group where (s)he has established or at least provisional bkr

Lamby: Yes... I played checkers for many years not using the forced move rule... Alot of sites use the forced rule move... I would like to see a checker game where I can decide to take the move or not... Thats all...

Daniel Snyder: yes I have also played that way too, infact I think thats the way I initially learned checkers

Daniel Snyder: Yes i agree to.I mentioned that awhile ago

I noticed that with a lot of peeps on hide, like on general chat, only 10-12 msgs appear
instead of the preset 75, no biggie just never've been able to count before by one view
so I thought I'd share that observation, as it's probably no proper bubblesort ... ... ~*~

Daniel Snyder: played checkers for many years not using the forced move rule

There is only one problem with that, and it is a big problem. When you swap all the way down to 2 kings against 1, if jumps are not forced, there is no way to win the game.

Kinda funny answer, I think he meant separate variant of checkers for beginners, what would you say about other flawed variants like Mahajarah chess, Open pente, Five in line etc. then? There are many such games here where experts say one side has forced win. Conclusion: if you don't like them, don't play them...

fungame:

If we were playing a game of checkers where jumps were not forced, and we were down to the typical minimal endgame where you had 2 kings and I had 1 king, you could not win the game.

I am not making a claim based on supposition, it is a fact.

If I don't have to jump you, when you try to swap off my last man, I just move to some other square.

If there is no way to conclude a game, then what fun is there in playing it? Would you want to play a game for a few months, only to have it drag on ad infinitum?

It would be like playing a game of baseball without walks or strikes. There is no consequence for 'doing nothing'.

I think the rule says if you refuse to jump when you can, you automatically lose the piece which should be jumping.

EdTrice: I've played it that way for 55 years and never seen what you mentioned.And if it did happen that would be a draw which we get in forced move playing anyway right

Fencer: That was the rule when I first started playing checkers (draughts) years ago - if you didn't jump a piece then your piece was forfeited.

I think the list of challenges should be accompanied by checkboxes, with 2 buttons; "accept checked" and "reject checked"

bumble: Same here. But it would be interesting to have the option of not having that rule.

The Idea was just a suggestion... I thought it would be nice to have a non forced rule until you have to move or resign...

I always played not having to take a piece, and no pieces were forfeited either. If there are two kings left on one side, and one on the other, the two kings force the single king back against a side until they have nowhere left to move except into a position where the opponent can take them.
If the players have one king each, its a draw.

harley: hi Harley! Yep thats exactly how I remember it!

Hi Lamby, nice to see you back!
And to stay on topic I request a welcome back party for Lamby! No? ok, I know...

harley: wooohooo did you say party!? :oD I can't drink though, one guess! :oD
Thanks, it's good to be back!

I would like to see the larger tournaments broken up into mutliple pages.
With WebTV, there are tournaments where I can never view my section. (Specifically, the $50 tournament.) I can't even view the whole thing after turning WebTV off and coming back with an empty cache!

rod03801: Uh huh. Yes, it can be done, of course, but wouldn't be easier to switch to a normal computer instead?

and I guess the additional setup button for bb
is so difficult that you even don't dare to comment ? ~*~

Fencer: I agree, it would have to be an option since I don't think that would be a good experience on a regular browser.

danoschek: It's useless, not difficult. From my point of view.

Fencer: not really..

Grenv: I agree.. an option would be best. If I could easilly view the entire tournament, I would not like to see it split up either.

rod03801: This WebTV won't let you scroll the whole page? I think I'd take it up with WebTV and maybe consider getting a different service if they can't or are unwilling to help you out here. Considering all the pages that I need to scroll to read, I'd not like that at all.

rod03801: I've never seen WebTV, but I'd have to agree with Walter, if you can't see the whole page that's a bug in the browser I would think, let them know and maybe it will get fixed!

Perpetual draw offers should be prohibited!

In some games my opponent offers every move a draw. What about a feature which stops an every-move-draw-offer and make it available only after 2 moves after the last offer?

chessmec: It'd appear that you missed my posts against draws in Chess on the Chess discussion board. I agree though, that it is wrong to offer draws in this manner. As I proposed, once you offer a draw you should no longer be able to win the game if your opponent declines the draw offer. Just implementing that would curtail draw offers immmensely. Plus, it'd make just one draw offer a game possible, since you could no longer win the game if you asked for a draw, the moment your opponent asks for a draw later in a game that you offered one in, neither of you would be able to win. Nice simple solution to the whole draw offer business. Not just for Chess, but for all games. Plus games that a draw is not a possible outcome should not have a draw as a possible outcome.

Walter Montego: that would create games which are in a draw position .. in which both players will continue making their moves ... never finishing the game .. and hoping the other will time out some day .. neither of them would dare to offer a draw as the opponent doesnt have to accept it and can just continue to prolong the game

sometimes a draw offer is a gentleman like way to finish a game

May be a check box "allow draw offers" could be useful for each started game, with default value yes. And perhaps some choice when declining draws could be "decline and ignore further draw offers" or something.

This is a nice addition to pond games, but it doesnt take you to the next most important gamer to play, time wise! I think it should be set up to take you to the next game that is due to time out first. (I think now it takes you to the game that was started the longest ago) Or maybe even expand the options to resemble regular (non multi player type) games, where there are many options on which game to go to next?

Hrqls:

sometimes a draw offer is a gentleman like way to finish a game

i often offer a draw, but never perpetually ... draw offers should be available, but not one move after first offer ...

fungame: May be a check box "allow draw offers" could be useful for each started game, with default value yes. And perhaps some choice when declining draws could be "decline and ignore further draw offers" or something.

no, a draw offer is often done for checking out what the opponent want ... maybe he will play to win ...
draw offers should be allowed, but not perpetually

What's the big deal? You can just ignore the offer and move anyway, right?

chessmec: ok ... i can live with draw offers only be made when the last move didnt contain a draw offer ... but as grenv i dont see the problem with perpetual draw offers either .. you can accept them, decline them, or ignore them

maybe you want an option to get the draw offers in your message box or not ?

It is a kind of annoyance,unsportsmanlike and
and an unusual behaviour between serious chessplayers.

Caissus: a draw-offer is very useful, a weapon, often used psychologically ... but never perpetually. it is against the game ... maybe not so experienced player or non-chess-players do not understand this ...

Caissus: It isn't always obvious that the draw was offered, I've missed it occasionally. If I think the game is a draw I will offer every turn until my opponent answers with some indication they saw it and declined.

Since we have a "cloak mode", I would like to know if there will be a "dagger mode" as well.

grenv: What is a perpetual draw mode anyway?

I have never seen a way to make a draw offer last more than one turn...

Czuch Chuckers: You're right, I would need to click the checkbox each turn.

EdTrice: I don't know about the dagger.. but, heck.. I don't use the Cloak Mode.. let's face it.. being able to spy on peeps was one of the reasons I liked this site.. I have nothing to hide.. I will still look at peeps profiles and view my lists of friends..

In my opinion... those who use the cloak mode.. shouldn't be able to see those of us not using cloak..

ScarletRose: I have nothing to hide. Standard question for people who have nothing to hide: what's your social security number?

those who use the cloak mode.. shouldn't be able to see those of us not using cloak. Good idea, that would save me some screen estate. That is, if the line of the last page requested by the browser someone was using was replaced by nothing, and not by something indicating you're not going to see it.

ScarletRose: what is a peep??