ooops....didnt put 2 and 2 together,harley! my bad.

Oops, I should also add that I didn't realise that redsales was already in a team!
And bwild, it was my fault, you don't expect discussion about cylinder chess on the gothic chess discussion board! My badder! LOL!

ok....its your fault! LOL;-)

Could we please get back to discussing Gothic Chess Games;after all that is the reason for this board.

i had a pending question about a game for months that no one deigned to answer...so I have given up.

which question,redsales?

no i think its perpetual check

that's my opinion too. unfortunately only perpetual check ... :-(

Hi Uwe, I was asking if the following sacrifice was sound or can it be refuted? Gothic Vortex poo-pooed it but it's been wrong before...

this move

i don't see anything except the draw, nice game tho.

But Ed messaged me and mentioned something about him changin his password awhile back and you having his email on ignore, fencer.. Could this be a reason why he can't get on the site?

Just curious..

Fencer has stated he hasn't manipulated Ed's account at all, and the PW request E-mail account doesn't ignore, to my knowledge

ScarletRose: I don't ignore any e-mails. It's nothing but a lie.

Ed has signed in today. There is no problem.

thank you, for your "nice game" ... I am lucky that i can play "nice games" as an abolutely beginner! :-)))

Grow up!
my gawd man...you act like a 10 year old child.
What does your messages to Fencer regarding ratings have to do with logging in to BrainKing?
I see your able to gain access to the site...that little whinny ploy didnt work,now you complain about unanswered messages regarding ratings....your last attempt to underhandedly remove Walter,not only didnt work...but got Thad removed for your trouble.
When will you learn?

From what I understand bwild for the last 6 months Fencer has not exactly replied to Ed and this was his whole point!

That was one....but he threw in a few others as well. :-)

I had noticed that the BrainKing ratings on GothicChess.org had not been updated, but the current "Game of the Month" is September 2003, so at least it's more up to date than that. Surely some good games have been played since then?

BuilderQ,
did you look at the link redsales provided below?
an interesting game!

Yes, very interesting. It would be nice to see it annotated. :)

yes, no matter how hard we try to talk about goth here, it seems everyone gets distracted. Ok, I'll start: i thought i would lose or draw the endgame unless I could get to the king and push him around. The acceptance of the sac is forced but that doesn't make it good necessarily. I would appreciate it if any patent holders or others from the goth pantheon would care to comment!

I will give you my thoughts at night........[European night:-)]

Why start a new Fellowship Trice - I thought you were leaving the site yet again?

but he paid for another rook membership?

No, he won a prize tournament. (2 tournaments actually I think)

LOL
figures

As usual only promises.

Ed made Gothic Chess Steamrollers so people like myself who love to play Gothic Chess can do so without all of the "BS" that happens at this DB!
We need a space like this where we can talk about what matters without a moderator who antogonizes then disappears and also the people who never play and think that what they say means something!
It's a shame that this DB will suffer because of inactivity or lack of topic but at least we have our Fellowships.
Walter wanted to know why I hardly post here and I told him that I never had a problem posting in Fellowship DB's. If anyone wants to join the Gothic Chess SteamRollers and are someone who is serious about there play, ask Ed for an invite.
I will see you there!!

well, i've been trying to talk about it, but no one, including you, Chesscarpenter, ever replies. Isn't that a bit hypocritical? Also, about Walter, first you said he talked too much, now not enough? I guess nothing can make your faction happy.
Lastly, people who don't play Goth have every right to say whatever they want about it. I've never been to war, but what I have to say about it is meaningful. Likewise with Goth.

Goth is still popular on this site, but I know of at least 5 people who refuse to play another game of it in protest of what they interpret as Ed's heavyhandedness. That's their choice, but surely you can see playing and analysis is more important than splintering the "community"? The gauntlet is thrown, does anyone have anything to say about that game below or am I going to have to form my own fellowship to talk about it?

Just kidding. Psyche.

I wasn't refering to you Redsales and I'm sorry if it offended you. I'm sure many people don't like what I posted but thats what I believe!
I know that you've been trying to talk real Gothic Chess here in your lasts few posts but until this DB gets its act together I'm not posting anything much more. If you want me to help you with your game I will do it by PM or at Gothic Chess SteamRollers. Also, I don't agree with you that people who don't play Gothic should post anything they want here because...most of those people are the ones that go from DB to DB stirring up the pot with their nonsense! You play, you have a voice...like...if you pay taxes you have a right to complain.

No, the government makes us all pay taxes. If you VOTE, then you have the right to complain!! ;-)

Speaking of complaining, I have set up a new fellowship called Rants & Raves - Anything Goes. Anyone who wants to complain about anything that has happened here at the Gothic Chess DB can PM me for an invite. Well, almost anyone.

One thing that i didn't understand: How Walter removed you (Thad) from being a moderator?
When you've been a moderator you could do the same?
I ask because i think it's funny if a moderator has the ability to remove another moderator....

Chessmaster,Walter is moderator and Thad was only submoderator.The moderator can add or remove submoderators of his own choice.

I guess there is one mod who is 'head moderator'. I don't really know, but you'll notice that when there is more than one mod on a DB, the first one is always listed in larger text. Walter mentioned that, after being mod along with bwildman & me for several weeks, that he could boot mods. I never had that ability, so I can only conclude that there is a little difference from the powers of the mod listed first and the rest.

I still don't know WHY I was booted. I never did anything wrong as moderator (unlike him). I have asked this question before both publicaly and privately with no response. I guess Walter has chosen not to speak to me any longer.

ROFL! You 'asked this question pubically'? What were you talking to? :D

Freudian slip

Is 1. f4 ; a bad idea in Gothic? I usually win when my opponant plays this.

I think,it is a very playable move.Look at my long game against slate, (Game id 286338).
1.f4 is comparable with the "open games" in regular chess (with 1.e4), a good alternative to 1.d4

In answer to what difficulties I have with Bird Chess,as opposed to Gothic Chess;I do not play any other Chess Variation except an occassional game of either Chinese Chess or Janus Chess. Why on earth would I want to play an extremely unbalanced game where White has such an unfair advantage in The Opening that he can take away all reasonable responses but one to Black;as well as making it very difficult for Black to have a decent chance to win. This is too too big an advantage for White. So,I'll stick to almost exclusively playing Gothic Chess. By the way,I also hate traditional Chess because Computers not only made it too easy to cheat;but greatly contributed to over analyzing it. I dispise Chess Computers and people who use them to cheat their opponants by getting their moves from them. In a chess game,or any other game for that matter,it is cheating to use an outside source other than ones own brain to get your moves while the game is in progress;and no honest person would do so. Unfortunately,many persons do cheat their opponants by using computers or other players help to defeat an opponant. I would never do this since it is not only dishonest;but flat out cheating. There is absolutely no satisfaction in winning a game I do not win by my skill alone;so Win,Lose,or Draw when someone faces me they are absolutely assured I will never stoop soooo low as to use an outside source to cheat them. My result depends entirely on my skill alone and nothing else. Honor means more than winning to me.

vortex is also making it easier to cheat.

And I ask me,why people like tedbarber play "turn-based" and not "live",without breaks.
At "livechess" like USCL or Playchess.com,for instance,the using of computers is forbidden and will be punished by immediate automatic disqualification.

I dont know about Ted,Cassius...but I cant while on webtv.
But I have noticed the number of 2000 plus rated gothic players climbing with the increased sales of vortex.

What I think is: If you play turn-based (with breaks of sometimes several days) you must live with the fact that the players use all helps they can have! The chances are equal again for all!
Btw,tedbarber,do you really think that Edtrice doesn`t use the "Vortex" at analyzing his own games?

Geez, I think that's my most embarassing typo/misspelling of all time!

<>Btw,tedbarber,do you really think that Edtrice doesn`t use the "Vortex" at analyzing his own games?

Caissus Ed plays a very aggressive game that is much better than Vortex.

Look at this position: chancellor sacrifice

Ed plays 8. Cxf7+ next, sacrificing his Chancellor. No matter how long
Vortex thinks, it will never play this move.

Even better example: