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1. april 2003, 08:15:48 Onderwerp: Solution to juangrande White: Ka8, Be8, Nj2
Black: Kc8 Mate in 37 Nh3 Kd8 Bc6 Kc8 Bf3 Kd8 Kb7 Ke7 Kc7 Ke6 Kc6 Ke5 Kc5 Kf6 Kd5 Kg7 Nf4 Kh6 Be2 Ki7 Ke6 Kj8 Nh5 Ki8 Bd3 Kj8 Bf5 Kj7 Kf6 Kj8 Kg7 Kj7 Kh6 Kj8 Ng7 Kj7 Ni6 Kj6 Bi8 Kj5 Ng5 Kj4 Bf5 Kj5 Bg4 Kj6 Nh7 Kj5 Kh5 Kj4 Kh4 Kj5 Kg4 Kj4 Nj8 Kj5 Nh7 Kj4 Nj8 Kj5 Nh7 Kj4 Nj8 Kj5 Nh7 Kj4 Nj8 Kj5 Nh7 Kj4 Nj8 Kj5 Nh7# 1. april 2003, 17:45:15 Onderwerp: Re: Solution to Whisperz and juangrande Whisperz
- Move 14 Kg6 clashes with move 12 Bg6 :( Jaungrande - Move 27 Kg4 but bishop is already here (move 23). - Moves 29 to 36 are repeats, and why wouldn't King repeat Kj4 at move 37? :) 1. april 2003, 20:06:55 Onderwerp: Re: Solution to juangrande This is no mate. It is a curious 5-fold repetition, which would have been a draw after the first 3. The computer did not recognize it as such, and neither did the programmer, aparently.
It seems to me that this mistake begins when the King moves to g4, already occupied by the Bishop. If we substitute a legal move, such as Kh4, the play could have played out to mate. But this mistake continues in the Knight moves, which instead should have continued the pattern already established, which would have then resulted in mate at move 37, anyway. My question is rather on several of the previous positions, which have the Black King moving in ways that seem to facilitate his own demise. I am now wondering if the program was hastening toward a stalemate position instead of attempting to survive 50 moves? This latter objective is the principle subject of our investigation, after all. /Fx/ |
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