Sorry guys.... and girls :), it is very simple to say "I hate Windows..etc" but then on the other hand you have to say some facts why.
I´m not a big fan of it (and Bill too ), but for an average user it is good operating system. Yes, you can say it not safe system, it has many security holes, it´s true, but when you have your system protected in good level (I mean antivirus,firewall...) you can use this system in many ways.
It has "friendly user" interface, it is not so difficult to "get in" and work on it.
There are a lot of applications for Windows, but can you tell the same about Linux?
I don´t blame Linux, I am about to learn how it works and keen on about all things connected with this system, but you cannot compare Windows (XP) to Linux.

And I am sure everyone of you is using Windows beside LInux or UNIX, Mac....

Any thooghts?

temo: *nod* windows has its advantages as well as unix as well as mac .. btw i didnt see anyone say on here they hate windows :)

i have windows because of the games, and because everyone uses it .. i program in visual basic because it makes it possible for me to write new applications quite fast .. with a user interface which all users will recognize .. which will run on a windows machine which all of the users will have

the problem with virusses is that there are so many for windows machines because the majority uses a windows machine .. so its more 'fun' for a viruswriter to concentrate on windows ..
also some writers of virusses (i said 'some', not 'most' ;)) make those because they are not satisfies with windows ... people not satisfied with unix and with the knowdledge to write virusses can just join the group and improve unix .. thats not possible with windows

the power of windows is in its number of users and its ease to install and use

the power of unix is its power to being manipulated by the users (although it requires quite some knowledge)

the power of mac is its graphical software (i think?) and that it uses its own hardware which makes it more stable as it doesnt have to be able to adjust to other hardware

(my 2 cts :))

Hrqls: I can agree with you mostly in all points. Btw. chessmec said he hates windows :)) But I don´t care.
Yes, the main problem (but for linux users it is its advantage) you need to have some acknowledge and it is more difficult to understand and learn using it, but I think when you find how works all applications on it you can tweak it and use it how you like it. But....with Windows you can do that too, maybe in not so "deepest" way, but you can.
The problem of windows is it is more vurnelable to viruses, trojan horses...etc because of its majority. It´s true.
But didn´t you thnk sometimes that user and it´s behaviour (browsing, ignorance) caussed all problems and then....you can only pray .

About MAC I think the popurality is based on its marketing which is excellent. No doubt about that. But when you come to see closely on its hardware, software, op.syste "TIGER" you realised that has nothing to do with good and stable alternative. Yes, it look great, it has interesting desing, but nothing more apart that. And it is very, very I say very expensive. You can spent your money more effective using intel,amd and windows or linux. Just one example:
it use slowly G5 processors, old ATI 9600 graphic cards, old PATA hardrives...and everything for more amazing 1000$. And Tiger?
Each new uptade is considered as a new system (they are crazy, aren´t they?), so when you buy for example MacOS 10.1 and you want to upgrade to Mac OS 10.4 you have to buy as a new system. And it cost a lot of money inspite of fact it is based on UNIx system...yeah, it is the way it goes.

Any comments appreciated... (MAC fans, where are you? but not blame please)

temo: ah! now i see the word 'hate' it is in the subject which came from PhatPlaya .. probably out of frustration because the computer didnt work anymore :)

lol ... ok the main problem is in front of the keyboard ;)

*nod* the reason why i never had a mac is the price ... (and because there werent many games for macs when i was considering buying one) .. i never heard of a mac crash ... but i forgot my gf works on macs at her work .. and she manages to get it stalled quite often :) (yeah she is talented ;))

there should be some people using a mac on here ? (any statistics ? ;))

what about webtv ? are there virusses for that ? ;)

Hrqls: try to visit this www.game-wow.kvalitne.cz page or this one and then come back.....

I am awaiting your comments on it.
Thanks.

temo: lol!!! got me there :)
(i am too anive sometimes ;))

now downloading the page .. curiousty is my other bad characteristic ;)

temo: hmm i know too little about this to know how they did it ... all i get is the main layout of an empty html document

care to explain it to me ? ;)

Hrqls: so tell what has happened when you opened the page...

temo: it caused my system to go into a loop it couldnt leave .. xp gave me a nice message telling me to reboot ;)

it looked like it was loading a very big image so my first guess is it was overloading my graphics memory ? but as i said i have very little knowledge about that part :)

i also wonder how i got only an empty html page source code when i downloaded the page from your link and it showed more when i opened the page itself (or at least it tried to show more ;))

to anyone reading how also feel the urge to click his link .. it will cause your computer to stall and you will have to reboot :)

Hrqls: yes, you´re right, it is very primitive but it works :) of course it depends on what kind of operating system and browser you are using. (maybe this can be one of the way how to find out how many people are using Bill´s system and IE )
On that page is simple image, size 1024x768 but in HTML code and his size is settled as width="9999999" height="9999999" so when you open the page, your browser is trying to load image of size 9999999 x 9999999 by allocating needed space in memory...and then You need to have some TeraBytes of memory to be able to load that image

Sometimes I am very suprised and scared how your system easily can be attacked.

Here is Html code of page:
<p><img src="pic.png" width="9999999" height="9999999" alt="puh" /></p>

Here is explanation about it:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293078

temo: ah ok .. so i will just buy 'some' extra memory ;)

how do other browsers and oss handle it ?

can you get into another part of memory when it doesnt fit into the graphics memory ? (i dont know how to explain that better ;))

Hrqls: Yes I´m not expert too, but it should be simply explained your way....
Well, I read on web these experiences:
WinXP + SP2, EI 6 --> reboot
WinXP + firefox --> reboot (but I think version 1.0.4 should not have problems with it
Win 2000 + IE --> reboot
Win 200 + firefox --> reboot
Opera no problem (it is very good browser)
win2k sp 4 + firefox1.0.4 --> reboot
Win 98 + firefox1.0.4 --> reboot
linux no problem

So as you can see, win has a problem with it and IE too.

temo: hmm i am using firefox at home (partialy convinced by reading posts on this board :)) .... i might have to try opera a bit more .. i think i already have it installed :)

Hrqls: Opera is paid browser (if you don´t like advertising banner) and firefox is freeware. I like and use them both.
Did you try thunderbird - email client?

My questions is: what application are you using for your work (have installed)? I mean basic needed for everyone (compress formats, burning software, browser, audio, video, antispyware, antivirus, firewall, image tools...etc)

It would be interesting to know what is popular and why.

temo: at work .. heh .. windows xp, ie, microsoft office 98, burning software from windows xp, norton, winzip, adaware, paintshop pro 7

they dont like it to update their software ;)

i use outlook express at work, at home i only use hotmail and gmail (i always forget the password from my provider ;))

Well, so I think thunderbird would be suitable for you. You don´t have to always log in on same page and write your passwornd and login name.
I think at gmail you can find guidance how to settle your e-mail account and then it is more compfortable. :)

temo: i will have a look ... once i have my computer sorted out, reformatted, installed xp and linux :)

Does Netscape Messenger (or the Mail part of COmmunicator) not support mail connection via APOP? I was amazed that the netscape 7.0 did not support this ...

background: i finalized a new mailserver today and one user told me that his mail program (netscape 7.0) does not support APOP ... I installed Thunderbird and all was OK :-)

But now: Does Netscape 8.0.2 supports APOP?

Hi, i just had a new moetherboard installed in my pc( woohoo ) lol but since i have come back on brainking, a few of my graphics now have teh white box with a x in agian, i've not had this for a while any1 know the cause to this rpoblem and how i can prevent it?

furbster: have you properly installed all drivers and system on new hardware configuration?
Maybe problem is in net connection, your browser, firewall....etc
You have to be more concrete...

Some simple things to do is to clear your browser cache - do a full reload of a page. (In internet exporer - hold down shift while you hit reload or hold down shift while you hit F5)

Ok, thanks i'll try that.

Well it didn't work i stil haev teh crosses
:o( Makes the games bit less enjoyable when its like this so i'll cut back i think

furbster: Have you tried Firefox instead?

i don't know what that is? lol

furbster: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

Furbster, open this page where you can download the latest version of firefox(1.0.6).
Then install is, just follow instruction during installation and try it.

you people sem very knowledgable..does any one know a good FREE screen capture utility?

nobleheart, Ctrl-PrtScn...Then just paste it into something like MS Paint.

nobleheart, I just checked...Control-PrintScreen even captures on dual monitors.

nobleheart, or were you looking for something with more features?

I have used PrintKey 2000 for a long time. The people who make it I believe stopped support on it and such - but is free and can be found here:

>http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/printkey_info.htm


From the screen shot on that page, it's nice free program which lets you do a few different things.

*edit: yea, just looked - the company no longer support freeware, but now supports a paid version called PrintKey-Pro. But you can still get the old freeware version from the link above.

After capturing the screen with the "Print Screen" key, the image can be pasted into any graphics program, so I don't see the need for a dedicated screen capture utility.

As for browsers, I suggest Opera.

BIG BAD WOLF: thank you so much mr.wolf and everyone else for your advise.
can I ask one more question?
I find my self exporting a lot of favorites(bookmarks) to files.
does a utility exist that can convert a "bookmarks.html" file to a .txt or a .doc file?

nobleheart: In Linux/KDE: ksnapshot

In Windows: Print-Key for whole Windows => Paste in MS Paint or another painting program
Print + Ctrl => Only the specified Windows

(But ksnapshot has more capabilities than screen capturing in windows :-) )

I use SNAGIT to save screen shots and also a lot of other things.....also free...well it was when I got it....it is just great

BerniceC: I´m not sure, but think that SNAGIT is shareware.
Just look here and maybe you´ll find some suitable for you.

ty..that is a good link a download site that not only lists programs ,but also has reviews on them...anyone know anymore that does this?

For several days, I don't know when that had started, when I write an email, my computer change my first name "MFEM" to "MFEM"!!? Though my copies about emails send stay correct.

McAfee anti-virus says my computer is clean.

Any ideas where that come from and how to fix that weird problem?

Well here also the same difficulty. My first name is "P-a-u-l" without the "-" of course.

Help, help, please!

Spirou: what program do you use to write your emails ?

in word there are options to automagically replace abbreviations or code by the full word .. maybe something like that has been turned on ?

Hrqls: I use Increditmail for years without problem.
I don't use any abreviations.

The problem seems not to be in the emailer because here also with messages the difficulty arise.

Spirou: hmm thats true ..

(i meant the feature could see 'paul' as an abbreviation or code for MFEM .. in some programs you can enter any code to be replaced by anything while typing)

what system are you on ? can you look at your running processes and services ? appearently something is running to change this

did you use the word 'MFEM' lately in any texts ?

Hrqls: I use Windows XP with SP2.

"Wintasks" displays a bunch of programs. They seems normals, though I am not a specialist.

I never had used that word "MFEM".

Spirou: hmm ... as it happens in several programs i am at a loss .. sorry ...

maybe someone else has had the same problem happen before ?

does it happen in all programs ? did you also try notepad and any other programs (preferably non microsoft :)) ?

Hrqls: Anyway, I thank you for trying to help :-)))

Spirou: Are you from Cook Islands? :0)

http://www.mfem.gov.ck/

Pedro Martínez: lol .. the director is named Paul as well :)

http://www.cook-islands.gov.ck/ministries.php

Pedro Martínez: LOL