harley: sorry it took so long to get this post up...All I can tell you are the ones I am burning say...video clip bit rate 1536kp dimension 720x576 size 291. That is the one that I am burning to the dvd but then the dvd will not play in a regular dvd player...just the puter.The origanial files (before I edit them in my pinnacle) say quicktime movie size 17.6 mb.I have to convert them though to play through the pinnalce.does this help you at all to help ME figure out what is going on? I am going to get ahold of BOTH gateway and pinnalcle AGIAN today if I have some time before work.