I really really do WISH there was some way we could go back and watch games develope by looking at previous bids! That would be sooooo nice!

ClayNashvilleTn: "Those are the people that are complaining! Getting the bonus with any kind of reasonable bid is almost impossible!"
a bonus is a bonus , sometimes getting a bonus by bidding higher than nessasary can alter everyones bidding ..lots of differnt tactics

Jason: It is more than ridiculous to bid 1000 or 2000 or any high amount such as that on the first couple of rounds!! all it ends up doing is bringing that bidders points down greatly.. who cares if they get the bonus.. they will soon dwindle off..

i didnt say ridiculously high .. i said alittle higher

Oh, yes it is crazy some of the amounts people bid even in the first rounds of the game.

The bonus is a means to an end, not an honor. :) The way things are now (with high bids in every game), it rarely makes sense to go for the bonus until the later rounds of the game, and then only when it is strategic to do so.

I guess all those messages sum up what I didnt acuratelty convey.

I just discovered this,can pawns ever play in the pond?

no they cant

Can I say I told you so? ;)~


Czuch Chuckers 29. January 2005, 17:39:34
Do we really need to be sent a message when we get the 500 point bonus for a round?

*****CLAY: Those are the people that are complaining!*****
*****ScarketRosewho cares if they get the bonus.. they will soon dwindle off..******

well Im regularly getting the bonus.....another 12 this morning, and I dont even bother opening them. I seem to be able to stay in MOST ponds until either 3rd, 4th or 5th place very often :)

who cares???? I do and "dwindle off" not at this end .

What Im saying is getting the message is a waste of resources in my mind.

Getting the bonus is ....exactly that, a BONUS

when someone bids 1000 or more in the first 3 rounds to get the bonus, they don't gain to much, but if it makes anyone feel beter, please, go ahead, I sure won't complain

Vikings: I very, very rarely bet more that up to 75 by the 3rd round, so do know what you mean:)
But when it gets up to between say 200 - 300 and all are betting that....THEN is the time to be 500....(a) you are in the running for the bonus and (b) if you get it, it has cost you nothing. and (c) if you dont get it there isnt a lot between 300 and 500....but then with all my smart thinking ROFLMBO....I still havent won one:)
but that dont really bother me, I would really love to see the stats for the ponds :)

here is an instance......4th round...bet 400...got the 500 bonus and is still over 20000 :)
http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=359

Like I said, I'm not going to complain.

you said it yourself, haven't won any, in fact the three people that have been going for the bonus in that game have won a grand total of 1 game between them

BerniceC: Yes.. he ended up gaining a hundred points.. that was a positive bonus.. :)

Vikings: WOW...grand total of 1 game between the 3 of us.....thank god for that....i never seem to finish lower than about 2nd, 3rd.4th. as I have said below...one of these lovely days I will crack that elusive number and then you will really be able to have a giggle Vikings.

Im waiting for the stats...occasional wins are good but overall average is far better:)

ScarletRose: yep....only 100 gain but he still has 20010 and it is the 4th round already :)

I would say that was clever betting wouldnt you?

BerniceC: Yes it is.. that is how bidding should be.. my main gripe is those who on the first several rounds bit 1100 or more.. they only gain 500 if they win the high bid.. but, they drop 600 or more points.. that is NOT smart bidding.. LOL

damn another 4th :(

and Scarlet...I have done it myself occasionally...in the early rounds and then will go back to a middle of the road bet...I wish I had of kept records of my 2nd, 3rd. 4th, and even 5th...there isnt too many when i drop early :(

perhaps someone can tell me how I can find older games????? and see how I have gone;....no wins but lots of them other ones

BerniceC: You have 81 finished games. 24 top 5 finishes (29%). 7 4th place, 7 5th place and 10 3rd place. You dont have any 2nd place or wins yet. The good news is that you have gotten better recently... 23 of your 24 top 5 place finishes have come in your last 44 games, 52%. Thats much better :)

I was going to do mine and pedros to give you some perspective, but since I am on slow webtv, it took me over an hour to sort out yours! Maybe someone with a faster modem can help us out?

Some thoughts..... I dont really believe that it is such a big deal to get into the top 5, if winning is not your main goal. For example, i could bet 50 in the first round and then 100 and 200 and 400 and 800 and 1600 and 3200 and 6400 all blind without even looking at the pond results and I gaurantee i would still be in the game and get a minimum of 7th place with still over 7000 points left to bid.... but I would NEVER have any chance to win one of these games!

My opinion, if you want 3rd 4th and 5th place finishes, keep playing the way you do, but if you want 2nd and wins, then you must change your strategy. Good luck!

Czuch : you are absolutly right :]

Czuch Chuckers: I agree. The more skillful players are those that have a chance of winning when it comes down to 4 or 5 players - rather than getting to the top 5 but having a third less points than the leader. Everyone plays differently, and the suggested rating system (BKR) for ponds which was mentioned by Fencer some time ago, has changed a few players strategy I believe.

Bry - how was the rating ? I must miss that :]

Bry: OK.... I had to do mine, another waste of an hour ;)

74 finished Ponds, 38 top 5 finishes for 51%.

11 1st place, 8 2nd place, 8 3rd place, 5 4th place, and 6 5th place.

Czuch Chuckers: Where are you finding the stats that I may do my own?

Good luck explaining that one Chuck ;o) LMAO

Stevie: Well he could just do it for me!

ClayNashvilleTn: Not likely! I already wasted 2 hours today doing mine and Bernice. Anyone with a fast connection can do on in about a 1/4 of the time, maybe less.

Go to your profile and scroll down to your pond games list.... hit the filter link to change it from "running" games to "finished" games, there you go, all your finished pond games :)

Czuch Chuckers: Thanks! Dang Stevie he did a pretty good job of explaing!

OHHHHHHHHHHH You meant that I wouldnt be able to figure it out after he went to the trouble?

Czuch Chuckers:

155 finished Ponds, 96 top 5 finishes for 62%

1st: 32, 2nd: 19, 3rd: 20, 4th: 12, 5th: 13

6 finished ponds, 4 top 5 for 67%

1st:3 (50%)
3rd:1

Mike UK: Great stats, Mike, keep it up...

Mike UK: Dang Mike what do you charge for lessons? LOL

Pedro Martínez: Thanks Pedro

Clay:They are negotiable from around $100 per hour!

Mike UK:I'm sending you a check today for 10 minutes worth! LOL

Thats all I can afford right now!

cheepskate LOL

Stevie:Can I borrow about a 100 stevie? LOL

nope...its already allocated to good times LOL

----------Winners list----------
1 Maxxina
2 Vikings
3 Viki
ngs
4 Pedro Martinez
5 Vikings
6 Nothingness
7 Vikin
gs
8 Pedro Martinez
9 Hannelore
10 Maxxina
11 Maxxi
na
12 Vikings
13 Pedro Martinez
14 Vikings
15 Andre Faria
16 Vikings

----------Points Leaders----------

1 209 Vikings
2 198 Maxxi
na
3 173 Pedro Martinez
4 132 lindaw4
5 127 Big Bad Wolf
6 120 Pbarb2
7 115 BerniceC
8 94 grenv

9 93 macik
10 77 Czuch Chuckers
10 77 Hannelore
12 72 Erinity
13 68
Nothingness
14 65 Arctic Warrior
15 63 Daniel Snyder
16 46 tonyh
17 38 Hazard
18 33 Monic
a
19 30 beach
20 27 Magic Dragon
21 23 maxchriss
22 21 Molly
23 20 Ro
se
24 19 Not a floosie
25 18 dexter
26 17 George Miller
27 16 CindyInTN
27 16 Andre Faria
29 15 Flake
29 15 Jofaserimon
31 13 S
carletRose
31 13 Alskn WolfGodess
31 13 rabbitoid
34 12 Mach Machovic
34 12 Backoff
36 11 Sinay
36 11 Ry
an from Ohio
38 10 stromovous
38 10 Fencer
38 10 Ar
tfulDodger
38 10 Prisca Pan
38 10 mcpeak1969
43 7 redsales
44 5 fra

45 4 A663
45 4 Nirvana
47 3 beaupol
47
3 SueQ
47 3 B Crow
50 2 hyncaba

Good Luck to all...

150 finished games
1st 28,2nd 17, 3rd 20, 4th 16, 5th 13
total top 5 finishes 94, 63%
special note last 50 games placing 10th or worse 2, first 100 games finishing 10th or worse 38

Mike UK: Give us a shout when you get established ;0

Czuch Chuckers: thank you so much and what a hell of a job to do :( I wouldnt like to do it myself on a PC so really appreciate what you have done ;0)....

41 finished ponds..
1st place = 2 times
2nd place = 4 times
3rd place = 5 times
4th place = 7 times
5th place = 5 times
top 5 = 23 times out of 41 games

I've created a prize tournament for ponds.

A WHAM BAMS PONDSIDE OF POINTS!!!

After the completion of the 1st 25 ponds,all members with atlest a point will be eligible to join.

Rules are once the 25th pond is completed it will be started,upon the completion of that specific pond is finished

WHats the prize ? :]

Universal Eyes: "Rules are once the 25th pond is completed it will be started,upon the completion of that specific pond is finished"

Um, what?

Thad : what i think , when the 25th pond is finished , who got some points , can enter this pond

Thad:
That's correct Thad,Maxxina that is also correct.

Universal Eyes: What is correct? Your words do not make a sentence.