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Purple: bill look this game."http://brainking.com/en/ArchivedGameg=1973430&i=57" he play all way. only a sore loser play the way. i thin was pray if i time out...
Stardust: Some of the best players can't do well at Giveaway checkers and some very poor players excel at Giveaway. I can't really understand why it is.
This board WILL NOT sink into personal fights. This is the ONLY warning. Thank you. As the Moderator said, the personal stuff will be dropped, and the topic will be Checkers. Not accusations back and forth. And, this will not be debated here either.
Purple: There is a place called the real world where people actually sit across a board from their opponent and play a game or two of checkers. Not all games are played on computers, or with computers, for that matter.
biggooner: That was the point of my message too! Cheating? Programs? For some players, "playing the game" is still the most important thing. That's nice. The others are trash, for me!
your getting boring purple, I have played you several times, and at times you make comp moves and other times your moves are inconsistent. To some people ratings are more important than the game
Wanna see how plays a "clean player"? See this game! It was won for me, after a hard fight. Skinny congratulated me for that. But, while talking to a friend, I made a stupid mistake, and lost it. Skinny noticed it, asked me what happened, and when I told him, he offered me the draw! That's what a great player do!
I resigned the game, because it was my mistake, but preciate skinny's attitud. That's because of players like skinny that BK it's still a good site.
Darles Chickens: Programs play very predicatable lines but not.easy to spot. Many legitimate players use the same few moves so it takes lots of games to spot a user. A few years ago a player unashamedly sold his Checker programs right here on this site. The late, great Richard Fortman beat programs very often..so have some others.
Purple: ok, let's put a stone on km's grave, never forgetting the evilness of a few (5, huh?)... Now, back to the first goal, and I hope you do have a word to say... It is regretable to use programs in our games! It's not honest and this should be inculcated in everyone's conciousness. We can't prove with certainty that someone used a program against us, but we can decline a game against someone if we suspect he's using a program. The only way I have to check if someone's using a program is to analyse all moves and make a comparison. and even so it's very hard, because we have to run several programs. So, back to beginning, unless someone has a better idea, its all a question of conciousness...
Darles Chickens: Out of 68 KM members there were 5 using programs. There were many more innocent than the few guilty. There were bans for multiple nics and ratings boosting..not for program use.
Purple: I wonder...Why did you posted that km comment, if I only wrote that I would like everyone to know what programs are beeing used in checkers and anti-checkers games, to prevent cheating? I know you're a good person and your subconscious send you a message to discard yourself from that regretable group...But, as Shakespeare wrote in Julius Caesar's play and you very well quoted: "The evil that men do lives after them..the good is often interred with their bones", I guess km evil is very alive, because some players are still using such programs...
Darles Chickens: I'm still blocked by Purple because I asked about KM group and "the possibility" of cheating... eheheheh. I see some bones up in the air, never interred! ;)
Yeah, programs are such an idiot way to win games. I can't understand why some people do it! I have my own theory, but I'll tell it to you in some other place, where my words can't be deleted, Mr. Darles. ;)
Purple: lol...as the saying goes: "you missed a good opportunity to be quiet". As we all know, km gang had a reputation (how can I say this in a soft way?...) at least questionable. Or maybe praiseworthy for those who only seek win, regardeless the means to achieve it...For me, using a program is always regrettable and shows lack of principles.
I stopped playing regular checkers after finding that some of my opponents were using programs such as CakeManchester or Chinook to make their moves. So, I downloaded Cake Manchester, from Martin Fierz's homepage and now, when I want to play a good game, I do it against my machine. What I found a few months ago, was that Martin also developed a suicidal version for his Cake (here known as anti-checkers). I downloaded it too, and after playing some games against it, I found very familiar moves from games I had with two or three opponents, specially from ItsYousTurn.com. I surely hope that people will reconsider the use of such programs in their moves, or there will be no interest at all to keep playing those games here, against real players, when in reality we're doing that against a machine...
rod03801: Do you think Fencer would reconsider setting up some ladders, maybe in chess, checkers and Backgammon to begin with? Goldtoken and It's Your Turn have them and anything they can do we can do better. Not so?
Purple: Anyway, people are free to choose who they wanna play with. For several reasons. Time they use in a game, for example. Or for "friend affinities". Or even other reasons. I like to play against some good players because I trully believe they are "fair players" and I can always learn something with them. I believe they also like to play with me.
rod03801: Then once every 89 days you can play an EASY win from someone rated 50th and your rating will be unaffected. Too easy to manipulate and I would like stiffer penalties for inactive players.
Purple: Actually, quite a while ago it was implemented that after 90 days of not completing a particular game, a rook will be hidden on the rankings. Once they complete another game, they "re-appear". You will notice on your own profile, that each game that has a "red" date, you do not have a ranking in.
What is a person to do when the top player "does not wish to be invited to any games?" He will stay there forever with no one ever having any hope of overtaking him. Makes a maockery of the rankings.
Emne: Re: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
Helibore: I doubt that is the case. After all, if you make a mistake, and the stones are quickly removed the situation is the same. Furthermore, in any serious competition, players must write down their moves anyway.
No, the reason is that you are not allowed to jump a stone twice. If you make a multiple capture using a queen, if you would remove the stones during the move, it may be that it appears the queen has a free path, instead of being blocked by an already taken stone.
While speaking on this subject, shortly after International and other national checker variants appeared, I asked Fencer to make it on the move confirmation visible which checkers had been taken in this move (for instance, by showing them with a blue border). He answered positively, but it still hasn't happened. :(
Emne: Re: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
MrWCF:
It is because you have to take track of the multiple captures, I guess. So your opponet can aks you to take the correct jump if you made a mistake. Were they removed, it is almost impossible to reconsruct and to object.
WinterAngel: You couldn't have checked correctly. There are Hawaiian Checkers games on each set of stairs on that link. (Except the "cubed" stairs of course, as those are only backgammon games) Once you click the link he provided, you then click on the type of stairs with the time controls that you like. You will see a list which includes every single game Brainking offers. You then join the stairs for that game, and choose someone to play.
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