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26. Junho 2006, 22:41:19
Czuch 
Assunto: World Cup officiating
Since I do not follow international soccer very closely, I dont have anything to compare this world cup with. So I want the opinion of some people who do follow it closely. There have been a record number of yellow and red cards already and there are more than 10 matches left! The games I have watched, it appeared that many of the fouls did not warrant yellow cards, and many red cards were unwarranted as well.

So, is this record amount of fouls due to increased illegal physical play over past world cups, or is it due to poor officiating?

My opinion is that the officiating has been poor, but I have been told that all the fouls I have complained about were warranted....

What do others think?

I really think it is a shame when a great match ends 1 to nothing because an official calls a foul on a player in the box, when the replay clearly shows that the guy tripped over his own foot, for example. I personally would rather the officials let them play more, with only obvious and purposeful fouls called.

Has there been a rash of injuries or something recently that has made the need for closer officiating? I dont want to see people get hurt, but it seems like a lot of player really fake how injured they are, and roll around hoping to get a foul call! And quite often, the officials give it to them!

I would also like to see a rules change, so that t6here could be different levels of red card infractions. Since for me, I think a person who gets two yellow cards doesnt deserve the same punishment as someone who purposely elbows a guy in the face and knocks him out of the tournament. Maybe something like two yellow cards and you are out for the rest of the game. And red card fouls ranging from minor, to major, where you can be excused from anywhere to one extra game to out of the rest of the tournament. Has this type of punishment ever been discussed?

27. Junho 2006, 00:15:51
Pedro Martínez 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Czuch Chuckers: In my opinion, referees have been a major problem of all previous World Cups. Compared to the 2002 one, I think we're seeing a slight improvement, even though it might not seem so at first sight. We have to keep on mind that referees are humans just like all of us and they do make mistakes. It's up to the FIFA officials to select the best possible referees who make the fewest mistakes, which task they seem to have failed in many cases. But as I said, I see an improvement this year and I believe it's going to get better and better. I believe that your blank statement "the officiating has been poor" is wrong, since there have been many games which were officated very well (GER-CRC, GHA-CZE, ITA-CZE, etc.), on the other hand there've been some which come close to the KOR-SPA game from the last World Cup. Today's ITA-AUS game is a good example of that.

As far as your proposal for a change of rules concerning the red cards, I'd let the rules stay the way they are right now. In my opinion, the problem is not in the rules, it's in applying them on the pitch.

27. Junho 2006, 00:24:46
Czuch 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Pedro Martínez: So you would say that the record amount of cards is because of finally good officiating, where in the past some calls that should have been made were not? That could be another possibility I didnt consider.

I still would argue for the rules to distinguish between an intentional elbow to the face, and a hard tackle where the ball is being played, I think there is a difference, and the same punishment for both isnt warranted.

27. Junho 2006, 00:38:16
Pedro Martínez 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Czuch Chuckers: Yes, that's what I really think. There are still many refs who are literally afraid to pull a red card out of their pocket or make a penalty call. Fortunately the number of these decreases. The biggest problem with referees at the World Cup is, in my opinion, that FIFA selects too many inexperienced refs from all over the world, which is wrong. Take a look at the Champions' League. The best of the best referees umpire those games and there haven't been any major problems there, as far as I remember. Why most of these are not called to come to the World Cup is beyond me.

The FIFA officials do have the possibility to make such distinctions. They can suspend a player for a certain number of games, for instance. The problem is how effectively this instrument is used.

27. Junho 2006, 01:18:34
Czuch 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Pedro Martínez: So, just so I understand, in your perfect world, the officiating will become so tight that players finally learn and there are no more tackling plays and you dont dare even touch someone in the box for fear of a penalty, and the scores rise 4 to 5 instead of 1 nill? Im not disagreeing, Im just curious.... it seems if you agree that more officiating is better, then thats where the game will go. You must be able to agree that there are some "ghost" calls, especially in the box where people tend to fake getting tripped or whatever, where the game is decided because of the officials and not by the best team winning?

27. Junho 2006, 00:20:02
Czuch 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Czuch Chuckers: Some great points Czuch, I think the high number of red and yellow cards is due more to poor officiating than to any real increase in the number of aggressive plays. But, there has also been a push for the officials to try to clean up the play a bit as well, so maybe a combo of reasons. But, I also have to agree that its not right to watch a well played game be blown for one team because the officiating makes a poor call!

27. Junho 2006, 10:23:25
Hrqls 
Assunto: Re: World Cup officiating
Modificado por Hrqls (27. Junho 2006, 10:24:04)
Czuch Chuckers: the referrees are given new orders .. they are applying the rules quite strict now and whistle quite fast

players did know this already, and are acting to take it to their advantage

ruined the wc .. the rules should not be this strict .. and players should try to play soccer

the same happened to the game of squash (racket ball) .. not too long ago a lot of top players called a lot of 'let' balls which would stop the game (rally) and start it anew .. they called in the hope they would get a 'stroke' (point for them, or giving them the first serve) .. since a couple of years there are actions to stop this behaviour and make people 'play squash, not let' (thats the call they use :))

maybe it should now be 'play soccer, not drama' :)

changed 'comedy' into 'drama'

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