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23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:00:20
ScarletRose 

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:06:11
ughaibu 
Q3) 1.e5 Ng8 2.b4 Qb6 3.Be3 Bc5 4.Bxc5 Qc6 5.Bb5 and 6.Qxb5 or Bxc6 or Bxe8 or Rxd7

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:07:49
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: Re:
Walter Montego: well he definately knows about Gothic Chess wouldnt you say...and I know nothing of it but was interested to see if i could answer number 2. he probably was as well.

Up till now i havent seen anyone give answers to anything except number 2...Mr Trice is the only one :) except Bry and i feel he wasnt being serious LOLOL

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:10:06
ughaibu 
Q1) 4

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:11:54
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Answers
1. 132
2. 40
3. 1.e5 Ng8 2.b4 Qb6 3.Be3 Bc5 4.Bxc5 Qc6 5.Bb5 and 6.Qxb5 or Bxc6 or Bxe8 or Rxd7

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:12:51
redsales 
ok, here it is:
q1) 4 but 132 if all maharajahs are considered unique.

q2) 40 by placing all on squares of one color.

q3) I have two answers, one is nicer than the other, but both are less than 6 moves.

1. Bb5 black plays either c6 which allows 2. Be3 Qe5 3. Bd4 and white captures the Q or N next move due to the skewer. Or: 1. Bb5 Kf8 2. Be3 Qe5 and the game ends the same way.

Originally I thought because of 1..Qa5 2.b4 Bxb4 and white can't take back with axb4 but now I see the forced win too, which is pretty: 3. Bxf7!! now if Ke7 or Kf8, 4. axb4 wins the Q or B next move, if Kxf7, 4. Qf3 Bf5 5. axb4 wins in the same fashion a move later, and if 3..Bxf7 we get the same theme with 4. Qf3 Of course 4..Nd7 allows the R to take N and 4..Ng8 or Nh7 allow the win with 5. axb4 where white wins Q or B next move.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:15:50
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: My answer were copied from various parts here
Modificat de Walter Montego (23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:17:48)
I posted all three answers first, though I only know that one of them is correct for sure. But the stipulation was correct answers, not understanding the answers.
I'll give it to redsales if his answer is to the Extinction Chess problem is correct since it's in less than six moves, otherwise to ughaibu.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:16:02
Bernice 
ooooohhhhh.....57 secs divides the first 2 people with 3 answers LOLOL....drum roll********* who is correct

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:17:45
redsales 
i wasn't sure if CM1000 wanted 6 exactly. I hope I get bonus marks for paring it down!

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:19:44
ScarletRose 
Subiectul: Re: My answer were copied from various parts here
Walter Montego: You are so opposed to Ed Trice.. yet, you use his answers.. hmmm

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:28:12
Bernice 
redsales makes an interesting point that wasnt clarified by CM1000.....
Are the maharajahs unique
god knows what it means but he seems to know :)
we could have 2 winners here, and they could Both be REDSALES sort of...maybe LOL

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:28:27
redsales 
I didn't want to modify my answer because it might change the time stamp, but I meant to write in for Q3)
"Originally I thought [you couldn't play 1. Be3] because of ...."

It just means 1. Be3 works too, but it is a longer solution than 1. Bb5.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:29:46
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
Q1) I see only 4, assuming all the maharajas are identical.
Q2) 40, all knights on the white squares, or all knights on the black squares.
Q3) 1. Bb5 C6 2. Be3 Qe5 3. Bd4 or 1. Bb5 Kf8 2. Be3 Qe5 3. Bd4 . Then black's next move and white wins in the 4th move.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:36:41
redsales 
Subiectul: Re:
BerniceC: I think he meant that the maharajahs were all the same, but if you, for example, "tagged" each one, you could switch the pieces around without disturbing the actual coordinates in the solution(s). From what I know, CM1000 is a math genius, and some of the mathematical proofs he posted on the Goth board were way over my head. Also, for most chess problems the convention is usually that if the problemist writes "white to win in 6" it usually carries the implication "white to win in 6 or less" but I'm not judge or jury here, I'll stop cluttering up Fencer's nice board. Nice little contest though, very stimulating.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:47:31
Bernice 
Subiectul: CM1000
Modificat de Bernice (23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:49:02)
is a mathematical genius LOLOL and only in his early 20's :) It is good to see :)
I love anything to do with figures only because Im a bookkeeper ...not a genius as LJ will attest to LOLOL, but love to work with figures :) as in numbers..before all you "people" jump on the word figures LOLOL
***EDIT*** i meant to add, have a damn good look around his website...amazing....i dont understand it but amazing :)

23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:48:33
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Re: My answer were copied from various parts here
Modificat de Walter Montego (23. Ianuarie 2005, 07:49:36)
ScarletRose: I also copied ughaibu's answer and I didn't hear you complain about that.
Perhaps it's Cerebro prize to claim after all. When will ChessMaster be log on next? I'm waiting to see if anybody has it yet.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 08:23:08
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
I think they should split the prize. 2 months for Ed Trice, for answering first Q2, 2 month for Ughaibu, for answering first Q1, and two month for redsales, for answering first Q3 in the shortest number of moves.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 08:49:55
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Re:
Cerebro: Where's my months? :)
Sounds like a fair way to go, but first we'll have to see what the right answers are, and if they've been posted by anyone as of yet. If the answers that I posted are the correct ones, then I was the first one to post all the correct answers. If one or more of them are wrong, then it'll depend on if anyone has posted all three of the correct answers yet. If my answers are correct and he agrees that I should get the prize, we'll work something out. I won't take any of it and let him do as fencer will allow. If I have a wrong answer or if he doesn't allow my post to count though they're correct and first, then what I want to do has less say in what actually is done.

Cerebro I think you have a typo since ughaibu answered Q3 first, not Q1

23. Ianuarie 2005, 11:34:11
Chessmaster1000 
Modificat de Chessmaster1000 (23. Ianuarie 2005, 12:01:24)
All the Maharajah's are not unique of course. A Maharajah is the same of course with another Maharajah.
So the following is not true:"
"A position that has a Maharajah-1 on a1 and a Maharajah-2 on a2 is different from the position that has the Maharajah-2 on a1 and the Maharajah-1 on a2."
Both positions are the same............

As for the Extinction, Redsales after Bb5+ there is the O-O-O! which saves the day(remember you can castle at Extinction when you are in check!).
As for the 1.e5 Ng8 2.b4 Qb6 3.Be3 Bc5? 4.Bxc5 Walter, there is the 3...c5! that leads to no win in less 3 moves.........
And there is no win in less than 6 moves for white.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 11:43:30
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Re:
Chessmaster1000: And remember, as there are no checks in Extinction Chess, there are also no checkmates either. Hopefully you mean on the sixth move something of Black's is extinct, not that he has no way out of it and it will happen on the seventh move. Just asking for clarification.

Right nice puzzles you have here. I think I should give them a serious go if no one has claimed the prize by tomorrow. Time for bed now.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 11:56:24
Chessmaster1000 
Modificat de Chessmaster1000 (23. Ianuarie 2005, 11:56:55)
Walter do you recognise the game? It's one of your extinction games........Against Oliotavio i think.......Only you failed to find the forced win! You won though........

23. Ianuarie 2005, 12:03:05
redsales 
Subiectul: Re:
Chessmaster1000: very good point, I forgot about 0-0-0! But what about the second solution I listed, you didn't mention if it was right:

1 Be3 Qa5 2.b4 Bxb4 and white can't take back with axb4 but now I see the forced win too, which is pretty: 3. Bxf7!! now if Ke7 or Kf8 or 0-0-0, 4. axb4 wins the Q or B next move, if Kxf7, 4. Qf3 Bf5 5. axb4 wins in the same fashion a move later, and if 3..Bxf7 we get the same theme with 4. Qf3 Of course 4..Nd7 allows the R to take N and 4..Ng8 or Nh7 allow the win with 5. axb4 where white wins Q or B next move (6).

23. Ianuarie 2005, 15:10:02
redsales 
Subiectul: just in case
ok, I am reposting:
1) 4 2) 40 3) Be3..etc solution given below.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 16:38:58
ughaibu 
Subiectul: ChessM
Q1) 5
Q2) 40
Q3) copied from Redsales.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 16:57:23
redsales 
1) 8 2) 40 3) as below

23. Ianuarie 2005, 17:29:42
ughaibu 
132. . . . pond life, evolution, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

23. Ianuarie 2005, 19:25:59
ughaibu 
I'm recruiting volunteers for a test.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 20:01:53
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Re: The game of Extinction Chess in the puzzle
Chessmaster1000: Trip, I was telling ughaibu and redsales during our games of Dark Chess that we have going that that game looked familiar! No wonder it does. :) I guess I did miss it. Extinction Chess can end quite suddenly if you see a plan like that.

23. Ianuarie 2005, 21:07:56
ughaibu 
Solutions need solvents, if one needed to dissolve GP what solvent is most efficatious?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 00:26:19
Fiona 
Subiectul: team tournaments
i was wondering - if you deleted a fellowship that was involved in a team tournament - what happens to the games, do they just carry on til it finishes or do they get deleted too?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 00:30:17
coan.net 
Subiectul: Re: team tournaments
Fiona: The games continue - there have already been a few fellowships deleted in current team tournaments.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 00:31:45
Fiona 
Subiectul: Re: team tournaments
BIG BAD WOLF: thank you for clearing that up for me

24. Ianuarie 2005, 07:49:43
Bernice 
Fencer...how is the health?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 07:57:57
Bernice 
Subiectul: Problem???
on opening a game with some one...there isnt evidence of any messages until after my first turn and then all message for that game appear...it is disconcerting in as much as I dont know if Im being ignored or what... (prolly ignored)...anyone else?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 08:16:04
red dragon 
You could be on their enemies list?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 08:28:25
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re:
red dragon: NO i dont think so...after the first move on any given turn the messages then show up.....besides this person invited ME to a game not viccy verkky LOLOL

24. Ianuarie 2005, 09:01:52
Fencer 
I am fine, thanks.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 17:15:18
Spirou 
Subiectul: Shogi.
Modificat de Spirou (24. Ianuarie 2005, 17:23:06)
Dear Brainking members,

Our webmaster Mr Fencer is planning to program shogi before the end of this year.

That programming is not an easy task, I am afraid. I think all of us interested in shogi could write a little word in order to boost his motivation (if necessary).

For those who ignore what is shogi, I suggest you take an eye on a Habu's interview. Mr Habu is one of the greatest shogi player of the moment and already an IM at chess!:
>http://www.shogi.net/chessbase-habu.html

You will read that shogi is not a slow, snoothing game at all but a fierce race to mate your opponent.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 17:59:13
ughaibu 
Shogi also has lots of variants, so once the basic game is set up we should be well away.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:01:43
furbster 
what exactly is shogi?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:06:29
Fencer 
Japanese Chess.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:11:31
Chimera 
Is that anything like Chinese Chess?

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:22:19
Spirou 
Subiectul: Re:
volant: Chinese chess is also an interesting oriental variant of chess. But I don't yet play it, sorry.

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:23:34
Spirou 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de Spirou (24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:29:21)
furbster: Shogi may be compared by and large with Loop chess, due the possibilty to drop pawns and pieces already captured (they say "in hand").

24. Ianuarie 2005, 18:25:30
Chimera 
Subiectul: Re: Re:
Spirou: thanks

25. Ianuarie 2005, 05:50:54
redsales 
Subiectul: another try for CM1000
1) 12 2) 40 3) Be3 solution given on Jan. 23

25. Ianuarie 2005, 08:37:06
The Listener 
Subiectul: When Will There Be Fair Use ?
Modificat de The Listener (25. Ianuarie 2005, 08:43:53)
Hey Pawns,

  Do you want to spend your money on this?...

Paying Membership to this site is not a good idea because:

The people who run this place (BrainKing.com) violate their own rules, i.e. They will harass you, censor you by deleting/hiding your posts, 'bait' you into arguments, and more or less commit transgressions of all sorts.

Also, there has recently been a controversy about posting your favorite song lyrics. The US Copyright Law states that it IS Legal to post lyrics/poems/jokes/stories on discussion boards -- If it is for non-profit and educational purposes only.

The User Agreement doesn't even mention this lyric posting 'rule'. But for some odd reason, some people on this website appoint themselves as 'Judge-Jury-God', and continue to inflict Arbitrary Aristocratic Censorship upon anyone who disagrees with them.
And even if you're a paying member, you'd better get used to this kind of treatment.

So, make sure to consider all of this before you spend your hard-earned bucks here, and watch out...

The Agenda should be 'Fair Use'. And if the so-called owner of this website chooses to ignore the 'Public' law, they should state it up front for ALL to see. To that, I whole-heartedly agree. (At the risk of rhyming )

When they publically state their intention of making this a 'Privately Owned', and therefore, a 'Privately Dictatorial' website -- Then I shall tell everyone to enjoy it as is.

               ~ E I H N

25. Ianuarie 2005, 08:42:38
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: When Will There Be Fair Use ?
EIHN: Perhaps Im wrong, but what or who gives you the right to denigrate and undermine the owners of this site.....May I ask...Did you personally pay for your membership? or get it given to you, or god help us..win it???

I would suggest to you that considering your anti views of BrainKing.com that you relinquish your membership and donate it to a pawn of Fencer's choice.

I can only see that you are trying to disrupt the operations of this site and under those circumstances perhaps Fencer should Ban you :)

It has been done before and no doubt it will be done again LOLOL

25. Ianuarie 2005, 08:58:41
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: When Will There Be Fair Use ?
EIHN: It's funny to see that 95% of similar complaints come either from pawns or members who were given the membership by someone else. Normally I don't react to something like your post. However, there is one thing I would like to say - I feel sorry for the person who was so kind and paid for your membership because it was obviously a wrong thing. If this is your way how to show a gratitude, you should rather go elsewhere and never come back.

25. Ianuarie 2005, 09:00:01
Hrqls 
Subiectul: Re: When Will There Be Fair Use ?
Modificat de Hrqls (25. Ianuarie 2005, 09:05:43)
EIHN: *sigh* starting again ? didnt we talk this over ? want to continue the talk where we left it ?

hmm a thought occured to me .. do you have me on hide ?

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