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25. Noiembrie 2003, 10:13:05
ughaibu 
When playing backgammon does the opponent see the board as if they were sitting on the other side or are the dice reversed so that both sides see the left dice on their left and the right on their right? In short how do we know which piece they moved first?

25. Noiembrie 2003, 10:30:04
Niki 
Subiectul: Re: ughaibu
In short.. how about the notation on the right hand side ? I think that tells you :0)

25. Noiembrie 2003, 13:23:42
split ant 
Subiectul: why don't we get an answer?
just because our funny rugby variation isn't acknowledged in europe?

25. Noiembrie 2003, 13:24:39
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: why don't we get an answer?
What rugby variation?

25. Noiembrie 2003, 13:29:13
pine cracker 
Subiectul: oh well this education gap
is more answer than I can stand now. my team leaves. :-)

25. Noiembrie 2003, 16:58:58
ughaibu 
Subiectul: Niki
Thanks.

26. Noiembrie 2003, 05:31:05
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: why don't we get an answer?
Fencer....I would assume one of our newest members would be referring to Rugby UNION (as the world cup has just finished and gone to England..congrats) but then it could also be Rugby LEAGUE...Australia has just beaten England 3 - NIL in a 3 test series.

26. Noiembrie 2003, 07:34:35
Fran Gipani 
Subiectul: Fencer
Would a suggestion be in order?
I have just registered as a new user, but I am a paid member as well :(
To stop the multiple log ins of trouble-makers would it not be possible to allow the use of your email address only ONCE? or even twice.
Now I know this will bring a howl from "family" users who all have the same email address, but in that case an email to a trusted employer or caretaker would enable multiple family usages.
It seems a good way to stop all the rubbish from trying to upset the rest of BrainKing...A private message on its way asking you to please close this account....LOL if that is possible without deleting this message

26. Noiembrie 2003, 09:17:16
Jason 
i still cant see how that would work . using the ip address would be more suitable , but i like a few others have two paying members here

26. Noiembrie 2003, 10:36:31
WhisperzQ 
Subiectul: Email and addresses
I have as many email addresses as I can dream up want (as I have a domain and an email server) so this wouldn't stop me if I were that way inclined and as I do not have a static IP then the IP address wouldn't work either except during the same session.

26. Noiembrie 2003, 13:45:52
Rogue Lion 
Subiectul: Re: Email and addresses
All of this multiple account business may be much to do about nothing. Abusers, suffering from split personality or not, will be delt with in standard fashion. Fencer has already addressed this issue. Back to the games!

26. Noiembrie 2003, 13:55:16
Stevie 
Fencer, When will the lock be coming off the fellowships board? Its been a week and we proved yesterday on Gen chat that we can keep out of the flames etc :o)

26. Noiembrie 2003, 13:55:33
Stevie 
PS Pleeeeaassseeee ;o)

26. Noiembrie 2003, 14:21:24
Fencer 
Just a second :-)

27. Noiembrie 2003, 09:21:37
noholdsbarred 
Subiectul: pawn policy
Fencer
May I draw your attention to a player DEADEND..
Joined 26th signed up for tournament first 5... resigned all games today 27th...
Appears no doubt in statistics for site and (no doubt) will never be removed...
May I ask what steps you propose to prevent the quiet enjoyment of the site by others being spoilt by this conduct.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 10:27:07
ughaibu 
Subiectul: Noholdsbarred
This is a very rare case (isn't it?), any repressive steps to prevent such behaviour is likely to be a case of the treatment being worse than the disease.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 10:36:56
noholdsbarred 
I have no statistics but the recent discourse on identity verification suggests that spurious memberships are created for other disruptive purposes.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 10:42:18
berengeria2 
By creating multiple IDs it is possible play them against one another, creating an artificially high rating for one of them. A guy on another site manufactured a 3500 chess rating this way.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 10:54:42
Jason 
if people have to play themselves to get a high rating then they are decieving themselves . they are not as good as they would like to think they are ... ps i have noticed this with a few players ...hopefully fencer can get a way to stop it or at least catch then doing this and ban then or something in the final brainking version

27. Noiembrie 2003, 11:31:56
noholdsbarred 
Now why didnt I think of that... instead of using the BKR to play amongst my peers...
If the ratings algorythm works as I think it does then he must have built a huge pryamid for it to work... perhaps if instead he had spent the same effort studying the game of his choice to improve his skill he could have the satisfaction of earning his rating.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 16:51:19
runningwolf 
Subiectul: Re:
How is it possible to Prevent Multi IDS Escpecially if someone is banned but just creates new ids and plays on I dont think there is a way to prevent Multi Ids or Is there?????????

27. Noiembrie 2003, 16:55:11
sLaMdAnCe13 
no.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 17:00:10
noholdsbarred 
Subiectul: there is a way
Simple really....
You cannot stop multiple ID's
You can provide incentive for them to behave within a code of conduct...
An enrollment fee...
Before the play for free party form a lynch mob read on...
It only needs to be a couple of Dollars...
It only needs to be paid once....
It can be later offset against other memberships should knight or rook be taken....
Since they then have something to lose "flaming" "tournament killing" become controllable and BK building expensive...
And if you can afford the ISP service/computer etc 2 bucks will not kill...

27. Noiembrie 2003, 17:50:30
coley 
hey what time and day is it over in the uk? just curious.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 17:51:51
grant 
its not turkey and ham day thats for sure! lol

27. Noiembrie 2003, 17:58:27
Fiona 
its 5pm on Thursday in the UK now

27. Noiembrie 2003, 18:22:54
Vikings 
I believe a 2 dollar fee cost Fencer money to process

27. Noiembrie 2003, 19:32:01
berengeria2 
Subiectul: Paying Members
I would be a paying member on principle, but the site won't accept money orders, which is what I use. Perhaps this can be changed.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 19:35:46
bwildman 
Subiectul: Re: Paying Members
thats easy...contact a customer service rep and they'll help you get your membership:)

27. Noiembrie 2003, 19:50:06
The Listener 
Subiectul: Sounds to me...
Noholdsbarred....

is just trying....

to get everyone....

to pay up.....

because of personal views against those....

who do not or cannot pay to play.....

And that just sucks.....

But luckily I think Fencer is smarter than that and is quite able to devise a plan fitting all peoples of all corners. :·)

~ MS

27. Noiembrie 2003, 20:18:36
noholdsbarred 
Subiectul: Re: Sounds to me...
I do not think a $2 suggested one off payment is beyond anybodies means. It is to deter people from making multiple ID's and using them to disrupt the site.
Perhaps if you would be so kind as to leave personalites out of it you could insteadv offer a constructive solution to the problem of the abuses highlighted here recently.
My previously posted views, if actually read were...
1) The principle of free play provides a pool of competition which I should not like to lose.
2) Those people who do pay should be given precedence of access when resource is in short supply.
Neither of those previous points has anything to do with this suggestion. They were to address a different problem.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 20:47:39
Rose 
Since fencer is charged something like 2 bucks for every transaction, sending him two bucks would defeat the purpose but if someone (namely me) with a merchant account was willing to accept the $2 (money order, cheque etc)sent to me I could then send it to fencer in one larger lump sum once it accumulated. Its something worth thinking about.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:29:48
noholdsbarred 
Subiectul: Re: With all due respect, I don't think it's worth a thought.
Ok a probation period... and how about having to have played some games before being allowed into tourneys.
I am not overly concerned about method here.. just a realistic cure...

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:31:50
bwildman 
Subiectul: Re: With all due respect, I don't think it's worth a thought.
Yes...I believe you are talking about my good friend,Danoschek.Unfortunate circumstances led to his "temporary"absence.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:34:28
GM5 
Subiectul: to complete games, as stipulation
might be even the better cure. ;-)
humbug-drivers are generally lazy.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:43:55
noholdsbarred 
Subiectul: Re: to complete games, as stipulation
what sanction if they dont... erasure... they just come back as another pawn

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:45:27
GM5 
Subiectul: danocheek??
oh well - a chessplayer probably needs good sitting-meat. :b
guess an old tree with uncomfortably noisy bark when wildboars appear. ;)

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:50:15
rod03801 
I don't think it's good to put someone's address openly on a public discussion board! She might not appreciate it!

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:51:42
Caissus 
Subiectul: Noho`s suggestion
Good idea from Noho,an example at an other server:
there are "Qualifications" necessary.
Q1= one game must be finished
Q2 = Q1 + a period of two months since first login , player can play special tournements.
after one special tournement he gets Q3 and can play all tournements.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:52:50
GM5 
Subiectul: Eriisa
is brainking customer support with available addy.
generally you are right, but I guess she's 'public' anyway. :")

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:54:22
rod03801 
Her mailng address isn't public as far as I know. People interested should just message her, and get the address from her personally. I know I would probably be willing to help someone out this way, but I don't want MY mailing address out here for just ANYone to see!

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:57:37
GM5 
Subiectul: I agree Rod
but I guess around therefore I am. :")

27. Noiembrie 2003, 21:57:46
harley 
Agreed. Sorry, mrloupcity, but if it was my address I wouldn't want it on a public board. Its up to Eriisa to give her address out if she feels comfortable with that.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:08:00
GM5 
Subiectul: Uwe
Noho may be renamed to Yehes. :b

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:09:36
Caissus 
Subiectul: Re: Uwe
Wieso yehes? :)

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:11:51
GM5 
Subiectul: Weil ich agree :D
I apologize for my lil speech impediment. 0:)

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:32:57
Eriisa 
I know I really need to get a Post Office Box, but I don't have any other need except for this. mrloupcity, thanks for trying to help out. I don't think I would have quite wanted my address in General Chat, you never know who would come beating down my door..... There are wild animals around you know. giggle.

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:34:32
bwildman 
wildmen too!! LOL:Þ

27. Noiembrie 2003, 22:41:31
Eriisa 
lol, I started to say you know my address, then remembered that is the zookeeper. :-x

27. Noiembrie 2003, 23:39:45
DeaD man WalkiN 
Subiectul: I'm sorry
I guess I need to look at my post more closely. I thought I only copied the first part of the e-mail. But after coming back in and reading all the post of everyone jumping on me for putting up ur address. Now I have remove it... And I will just move on. If people want help from me please do it by sending me a message. But I do want the site to know but many ERIISA i'm truly SORRY that it was up there. TYVM e1 for putting me in my place.

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