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25. Septembrie 2010, 18:04:07
Papa Zoom 
Buried deep within the HEALTH CARE BILL is a new tax on home sales. But like Pelosi said, we had to pass this bill to find out what was in it.

Thanks Democrats. You found yet another way to steal our money.

25. Septembrie 2010, 13:16:24
Mort 

25. Septembrie 2010, 12:50:28
Mort 
... Are tea party members always being so nutty?

25. Septembrie 2010, 06:11:52
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: Dream away

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:25:37
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: Rubbish. You have.

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:16:42
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re: all from the left

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:15:31
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday:  Do you always ignore facts you don't like? 

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:09:40
Papa Zoom 

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:08:22
Papa Zoom 

25. Septembrie 2010, 05:07:09
Papa Zoom 
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2010/09/20/unbelievable-rep-halvorson-now-says-hitler-sign-carrying-protesters-came-into-her-office-for-water-to-say-hi-video/

lots of examples of distortions, infiltrations, and nazi signs by the LEFT. 




Right Wing News: Democrat Rep. Halvorson (Illinois) Sponsors Protest Rally Calling Opponent a Nazi

Big Government: Dem Congresswoman’s Supporters Participate in ‘Palin-As-Hitler’ Rally

RedState: Barack Obama’s Organizing for America Goes With the Nazi Mustache Too and Debbie Halvorson Goes With the Nazi Card

The Camp of the Saints: Can You Smell The Fear?

Gateway Pundit: Republican Adam Kinzinger Slams Dem Opponent’s Vile Nazi-Sign Protests (Video) and Busted…
Vile Protesters With “Nazi” Signs Filmed Entering Dem Rep’s Office
After Rally (Video) …Update: OFA Protester ID’ed …Update: Kinzinger
Demands Apology


VotingFemale: Is Rep Debbie Halvorson’s NAZI squad taxpayer-funded or Soros-funded? inquiring minds want to know; Update

Fire Andrea Mitchell!: Hypocrisy!
Progressive Illinois Democrat Debbie Halvorson’s office organizes
protest with Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck nazi signs!


Illinois Review: Halvorson campaign workers busted going Nazi on Kinzinger

PUMABydesign001’s Blog: Debbie Halvorson’s Nazi Brigade, OFA in full regalia Carrying Signs of Opponent, Adam Kinzinger, Glenn Beck as Hitler

Common American Journal: Organizing for America protest using ‘Nazi’ images of Palin, Beck

Office of Adam Kinzinger: Kinzinger demands answers from Halvorson after Nazi protest

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:58:10
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: I've explained it. It's not my problem if you can't see the difference. You distorted the facts as you presented them.

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:53:25
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Facts matter
The "they" wasn't identified. It dishonestly referenced the tea party as a whole. But the fact is it was ONE group and they recieved criticism from within their own ranks. The criticism was so strong, they took the sign down.

Tea party billboard comparing Barack Obama to Hitler, Lenin, covered up: group calls it bad decision

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/07/14/2010-07-14_tea_party_billboard_comparing_barack_obama_to_hitler_lenin_covered_up_group_call.html#ixzz10VPLJSFQ

Also, Tuesday referenced "billboards." That's a plural word form. And the implication is that "they" meaning the tea party, puts up "billboards" meaning many, depicting Obama as Hitler.

A complete distortion of the known facts. The billboard (singular) compared Obama with other Socialist leaders. Hitler was one of them. AND it IMMEDIATELY drew criticism from within the Tea Party at large and was replaced.

That's a far cry from posters that put mustaches on Palin, Beck, and other Conservatives. And I've provided more than one video showing different groups that engaged in this sort of practice.

And I've posted other videos where known democratic operatives infiltrated a Tea Party group and spewed racial remarks and carried racially charged signs. This was done all as a ruse to make the Tea Party look racist. And even though this tactic was known to the left, they still spewed it out as if it was fact.

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:41:51
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: A great Video

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:36:40
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Mice with human brains.
September 24, 2010
Christine and the 'mice with human brains'
J.R. Dunn
Christine O'Donnell is being pilloried for a remark she made in 2007 to Bill O'Reilly concerning "mice with human brains." Prime evidence, we're told, that O'Donnell is your standard-issue ignorant and uneducated right-winger babbling about things she just doesn't -- not to mention can't -- understand.

In a point of fact, it's quite clear that O'Donnell is almost completely correct in her assertion and her critics dead wrong. Such human-animal hybrids are no rarity. The technical term for them is "chimeras", and there are hundreds, if not thousands of varieties in existence.

Among them are mouse-human neural chimeras, a project being carried out by Dr. Irving Weissman, a well-respected Stanford researcher, with the assistance of Dr. J. Mike McCune. Dr. Weissman sought and was given permission for such an experiment from Stanford University as early as 2005. He began research shortly afterward, and has published several papers dealing with the results. According to Scientific American, his ultimate goal is a mouse with a brain composed completely of human neural tissue -- exactly what O'Donnell was referring to.

No effort at secrecy has been made - Dr. Weissman's research has been discussed in the Washington Post, the Times of London, the Wall Street Journal, Reason Magazine, and the National Geographic, along with no end of specialty journals. In other words, such creatures exist and there is no excuse for any well-informed individual not to know about it.

Why create chimeras? To provide a means of carrying out neurological research impossible to do on human beings. Mice are animals (sorry, PETA!), and can be subject to severe procedures to fit the researcher's requirements. There has been vigorous debate concerning the ethical and scientific questions surrounding chimeras. Dr. Weissman himself is fully cognizant of potential dangers, having gone on record to warn against allowing such creatures to breed.

So, score one for Christine O'Donnell, and zero for her critics. This is all very similar to the attacks on Ronald Reagan over his assertion that trees cause the largest amount of air pollution. A pure statement of fact -- Reagan was simply quoting a study concerning pollution in the form of tars by pines and firs. (This is what causes the Smoky Mountains to be smoky, by the way.)

Eventually, somebody's going to want to experiment with injecting human brain cells into liberals -- but we have put our foot down somewhere.

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:29:02
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Vikings: I know exactly to what she is referring and she's distorting the facts. This is the usual tactic of the left.

25. Septembrie 2010, 04:14:23
Mort 
.. so the Tea party are saying it's wrong to have signs and billboards made up by their members comparing Obama to Hitler.. but it's ok to verbally compare Obama to Hitler.

"He says he’s seen different signs that have compared Obama to Hitler, or pictures of Obama with a Hitler-style mustache drawn on it, and they’ve asked people put the signs away because they’re “distasteful.” He says people are tired of slander and mudslinging and the Tea Party doesn’t need to take part in it. While he doesn’t agree with posting the billboard, White says he agrees that Obama has followed several of the same principles as Hitler."

.. And to nit pick over whether it's a sign or billboard... So, on the right... you have freedom of speech and can compare Obama to Hitler.

But what does that say about the people who feel the need to do it?

25. Septembrie 2010, 03:06:29
Vikings 
Subiectul: Re:

25. Septembrie 2010, 03:03:02
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: It's a lie Tuez. What you said isn't true. There's nothing to debate. You're not being accurate. You are either uninformed or lying. But either way, you are wrong.

25. Septembrie 2010, 02:47:46
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: that's a lie again

25. Septembrie 2010, 02:47:13
Papa Zoom 
Black Panther voter intimidation testimony today
Thomas Lifson
Christopher Coates, former voting chief for the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, has given powerful testimony this morning, under oath, about the dismissal of charges against members of the New Black Panther Party who carried truncheons at a polling place in Philadelphia. Fox News reports:

Coates went in depth about a controversial decision to dismiss charges against New Black Panther members after they were videotaped outside a Philadelphia polling place in 2008 dressed in military-style uniforms and allegedly hurling racial slurs while one brandished a night stick.

The case has drifted in and out of the limelight over the past year as the commission has struggled to investigate it. Ex-Justice official J. Christian Adams fueled the controversy when he testified in July and accused his former employer of showing "hostility" toward cases that involve white victims and black defendants.

Nearly three months later, Coates backed up Adams' claims. In lengthy and detailed testimony, he said the department cultivates a "hostile atmosphere" against "race-neutral enforcement" of the Voting Rights Act. [...]

He said civil rights attorneys stick to cases that involve minority victims and that the Black Panther case was dismissed following "pressure" by the NAACP and "anger" at the case within the Justice Department itself.

"That anger was the result of their deep-seated opposition to the equal enforcement of the Voting Rights Act against racial minorities and for the protection of white voters who have been discriminated against," he said.


This outrageous behavior by the top law enforcement agency of the United States, denying equal protection of the law to white voters, has the potential to seriously damage AG Eric Holder, and the man who appointed him, Barack Obama, and the entire Democratic Party. The DoJ's inspector General is already investigating, and and if Republicans control, the House of Representatives next year, we can expect serious investigation armed with subpoena power.

Zoe Lofgren's contemptible summoning of satirist Steven Colbert to testify before her committee -- only to have the comedian be asked to leave by the more level-headed John Conyers -- may well have been a diversionary effort, to suck away the media spotlight. It no doubt will succeed in helping the liberal media to ignore the explosive Coates testimony, but the liberal media no longer have the power to deep six stories that embarrass their Democrat allies.

The Obama Justice Department is doing its best to create the impression among the white majority that it regards them as second class citizens. As further details emerge, the damage to Obama and the Democrats will grow worse, I predict.

25. Septembrie 2010, 02:44:08
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: More democratic business as usual

25. Septembrie 2010, 02:41:20
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: Re:
Tuesday: That's not the point.  The point is that you on the left falsely accused the Tea Party of this sign. 

25. Septembrie 2010, 02:23:58
Papa Zoom 
Subiectul: one again - it's the liberal left

When Think Progress and others on the Progressive Left attribute
these ‘Obama as Hitler’ signs to the Tea Party, they are being
dishonest. As you can see in the video above, the LaRouchBots themselves
proudly boast that they are not with the Tea Party.


Say what you will about Obama being a Marxist, or more specifically a “Democratic Socialist”,
that does not mean he is genocidal. There is indeed a freighting
overlap between Marxism and genocidal maniacs around the globe, but
President Obama is not a murderer. The Democratic Socialist policies of
the Progressive Left might cause many people to die in war and famine
and disease, but Obama doesn’t strike many sane people as looking to
shove corpses into ovens. The comparison to Hitler is both offensive and
inaccurate.


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But we don’t have to tell most Tea Partiers that. They already know
better. Political operatives on the Left though…..that’s another story.


Mainstream Progressive Democrats have no problem depicting Americans as Hitler.


25. Septembrie 2010, 02:19:58
Papa Zoom 
9/12 Tea Partiers Reject Obama-As-Hitler Comparison (Video)
from Big Government by Andrew Marcus

While on location in Washington, DC for the 9/12 Tea Party, we came across a couple of people displaying large signs depicting President Obama as Hitler.

The signs were the handiwork of repeated Democrat Presidential candidate – and well known Leftist convict – Lyndon LaRouche.

The Tea Partiers responded angrily, vocally rejecting the LaRouche-Obama-Hitler brigade.

yeah, there's video proof.

So much for the liberal lie about the 912ers.

24. Septembrie 2010, 10:28:54
Bernice 
"do not resusitate" orders can be overridden by the family in Australia....

Speaking from experience, the non resusitation wish has been asked for and signed for when the patient is in the worst condition....pain and health wise. Then the patient gets well and it is forgotten, for anything up to *shrugs* could be years. Then they get sick again and it isn't mentioned. WHen the "care" isn't as it should be and it is queried - e.g. breathing aparatus's aren't turned on or connected, the reply is...DNR's have been signed. By this time the patient is unable to revoke what was signed for maybe years ago.

They have their good and bad points.

24. Septembrie 2010, 09:34:22
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: Democrats are so blind. They always fall for appeals to emotion.
Modificat de Mort (24. Septembrie 2010, 09:34:45)
Tuesday: Imho.. a person should have the right to decide how they die when it comes to certain medical conditions. I certainly do not want to be kept on life support if by all accounts, I'm not in my body.

I feel dnr is represented or implied at least in the Hippocratic Oath. Something here in the UK all doctors swear to.

"I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help."

24. Septembrie 2010, 09:14:20
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: Democrats are so blind. They always fall for appeals to emotion.
Artful Dodger: ??? I remember you posting links and articles on "death panels" ... Now, are you saying it's wrong for those who get ill to have their health care providers live up to their name and provide health care???

That sounds nimbyish

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:33:25
Papa Zoom 
Now I gotta pee.

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:33:04
Papa Zoom 
Rachel Maddow. Now there's an honest voice!

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:28:02
Papa Zoom 
But NOT ONE Democrat is out there campaigning on how proud they are that they helped pass ObamCare. They are avoiding the subject. Most Americans, including many, MANY Democrats, no longer view ObamaCare favorably. Worse, most see it as a bad thing.

And in November, there will be a fight to repeal this monster. It's a very very bad policy. And appeals to emotion will not change that fact.

Everything Obama claimed about ObamaCare has turned out not to be true.

And the WH knew ahead of time hidden problems.

And they hid the facts from the people. Now the truth is out. Obama is a liar.

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:22:31
Papa Zoom 
Democrats are so blind. They always fall for appeals to emotion.

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:07:35
Papa Zoom 
I love finding stuff like that.

24. Septembrie 2010, 06:05:56
Papa Zoom 
September 23, 2010
5 Dem Congressmen say they voted against TARP - before they were even elected



Rick Moran
For sheer lunacy, this is pretty funny. And for utter stupidity, you have to hand it to these Dems who are so scared of being tarred with TARP that they would blatantly lie about voting against it.

Wall Street Journal Political Diary:

Republican Congressman Mike Castle's loss to upstart Christine O'Donnell in their Delaware Senate primary serves as yet another reminder of the political toxicity of the bank bailout. TARP has claimed a lot of martyrs over the primary season, most famously Utah GOP Senator Bob Bennett. And now 58% of Americans say the bailout wasn't even unnecessary.

No wonder some elected officials have begun defying the laws of time and space to claim they voted against it. FactCheck.org reports that five freshman Democratic House Members have run ads claiming they voted "no" on TARP. "None of the five lawmakers who are running these ads is listed in the roll call vote," says FactCheck.org. "That's because none of them had taken office yet -- in fact, none of them would even be elected for another month. So what are they talking about?"

John Kerry notoriously was in favor of an Iraq War funding bill before he was against it. But this group has one-upped him. For the record, the five are: Ohio's Mary Jo Kilroy, Pennsylvania's Kathy Dahlkemper, Maryland's Frank Kratovil, Nevada's Dina Titus, and Virginia's Glenn Nye.

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