Jim Dandy: .. It doesn't mean the Israelis have the right to take land not theirs. I can understand defence, but I wish the UN could be used to deal with any Palestinian attacks rather than the Israeli army. I also wish all the UN resolutions made against Israel would have been enforced.. again to introduce a UN force. Also that the UN resolutions the USA 'vetoed' were not.

Our country is officially annoyed with Israel, over their breaking a promise NOT to use fake British passports again to allow them to enter another country in order to assasinate people.

Every year, Americans for Tax Reform calculates Cost of Government Day — exactly how many days of the year Americans work to pay the total cost of government. This includes all government spending by federal, state, and local government. It also includes the costs forced into every product and service we buy in the private sector by state and federal regulations. Some regulations are silly and destructive. Others are important and useful. But none are free.

In 2008, Americans worked 197 days, until July 16 — in other words, more than half the year — to pay for the total cost of government. As a result of the bailouts, stimulus, and increased discretionary spending in the federal budget and new taxes for health care, Americans this year have worked until August 19, fully 231 days.

(V): "The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well fight."

-Golda Meir

Artful Dodger: Our fear regarding the present condition was that there might be a double dip.

Btw did you hear how Boeing risked all in developing the 747. Spent everything and upto the waist in debt. Private enterprises in the USA spent over a billion just to get to the wind tunnel stage of testing a supersonic jet liner design.

.. yet the UK and French government completed Concorde for the same money. The project went over budget.. but the plane was a beauty. No-one can even match it today, at the time it'd even outrun the RAF's interceptors.

Jim Dandy: Not quite right.. it needs to include also when they don't fear for their children and feel their children have a future.

Jim Dandy:

(V): "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"

-Golda Meir

Jim Dandy: Well I hope and pray you are right.

Jim Dandy: It's not going to be an instant thing, there will be hiccups.. but if the folk aiming towards sorting it keep going...

Blair lied about Iraq but he organised peace in Northern Ireland.

(V): I wish it was

Artful Dodger: That's what happens when part of the school curriculum is to teach to hate Jews.It is ingrained in them from a very early age

Artful Dodger: Absolute rubbish.

Jim Dandy: The terrorists full stop need Israel ... The IRA needed the Loyalists and the Loyalists needed the IRA. But in the end the people wanted peace, the cost of that war was just sickening the people.

Jim Dandy: They will find other ways to recruit. And peace will never be fully realized. History tells us that. Any peace reached will be short lived. That's because for some Arabs, the only tolerable Israel is when they are pushed into the sea.

(V): Hamas needs Israel as a recruitmenr tool, peace will make them melt away like the wicked witch of the west

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OM-xQ5vOso

Jim Dandy: If they can sort out a peace deal in Northern Ireland with all the various sides involved in that mess then there is a chance. N' Hamas won't be in power forever.

(V): And that is why Hamas will find every reason not to reach an agreement

The US is preparing to release a statement establishing details for direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, the BBC has learned.

Both the US government and other international Quartet members have been working towards a formula to persuade both sides to begin negotiations, after several months of indirect talks.

US special envoy George Mitchell has tried to establish enough trust to begin direct talks - with the ultimate aim of two states existing side by side in peace.

If they do.. less power to the recruiters of terrorists.

There will have to be compromises and ground given by both sides if a new round of peace talks is to succeed where many previous attempts have failed.

Just as in Northern Ireland

N' on the news just now.. The last US combat troops are leaving Iraq two weeks earlier than Pres Obama aimed for.

Jim Dandy:

Artful Dodger: I will quote you on this one

Jim Dandy: Dude, I've been off the edge for a long, long time now. Haven't you noticed?

Artful Dodger: Did Republican policy just send you off the edge?

August 18, 2010
Some deluge
Clarice Feldman
Arizona's Espresso Pundit makes fun of the Arizona Republic's predictions about the political affect of the state's immigration law:

I especially enjoyed the commentary by Democrats who "worried" that SB 1070 was going to lead to the demise of the Republican Party. This "concern" was coupled with the "fact" that people were flocking to Democratic Party headquarters in order to register to vote. Here's agood example of the coverage.

I love the headline. "SB 1070 Backlash spurs Hispanics to Join Democrats."

Here's the lede.

In the seven weeks since Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed Arizona's tough new immigration law, there has been a sharp increase in the number of Latinos registering to vote as Democrats, party officials say, jumping from about 100 a week before to 500 now.

Now that we've had some time to tabulate the numbers, how is that registration drive going? Here are the latest statistics.

The number of registered voters in Arizona has increased 1 percent over the last three months. Statewide figures showed Democratic registration decreased by 530 voters. Registration for Independents rose by more than 25,000 voters and increased by more than 10,000 voters for Republicans.

Wow, down 530. That's really embarrassing...and to think, the registration forms are written in Spanish and everything...

I don't know who should be more embarrassed, the Democratic Activists who thought their SB 1070 demagoguery would lead to increased voter participation...or the naive journalists who cheered them on.

Obamacare - unintended consequences: Health care costs up 9% in big companies. But didn't Obama say that our premiums wouldn't be effected?

Next up: Tax increases to help pay for it.

Übergeek 바둑이: George Sr actually cried that GW ruined it for Jeb

Übergeek 바둑이: It would remind people of the Kennedy family and their problems... George has lost the republicans much appeal.

I always wondered why Jeb Bush never ran for higher office. I am sure he must have some appeal among Republicans.

Tuesday: Have you watched his tv show?
I think every republican candidate is on the Fox payroll

Übergeek 바둑이:

Something I did hear about is about Joe Biden leaving the vice-presidency. If that were the case maybe Hilary Clinton would become the vice-presidential candidate. An Obama-Clinton ticket would be very difficult to beat.

Artful Dodger:

I think that is wishful thinking. I doubt that he would just step away from the presidency. I think the real challenge is on the other side. The Republicans have to mount an aggressive campaign and chose their best possible candiadate. It will be interesting to see who their candidate is. I haven't read any opinion poll results showing who the favorite Republican candidate would be. I imagine that Sarah Palin, maybe even Mike Huckabee.

Artful Dodger: That won't happen.First black president is not going to quit, it would look terrible

Übergeek 바둑이: Some analysts suspect he's not interested in reelection and that he's setting things up for Hillary in 2012.

Artful Dodger:

Reelect Barack Bin Laden!

Übergeek 바둑이: You missed it. He's already in!

Artful Dodger:
> All of the above have been done by our 44th president.

> Again, I ask, what would a jihadist do?

Barack Bin Laden for president! Hurray!!!

Artful Dodger: George Bush had those who were against him taken away into specially designated zones so their protest would not be seen on TV. His heavies tried to have those who protested imprisoned.

Artful Dodger: Sounds like those conservatives in the Tea party who are trying to define what a true conservative is!!

What Would a Jihadist Do?
Eileen F. Toplansky
Would a jihadist:
Cosponsor a United Nations resolution in 2009 imposing "shariah blasphemy" laws that utterly conflict with the American First Amendment's protection of free speech After all, free speech is prohibited within the Muslim-controlled world.
Appoint a sharia finance specialist to the White House to influence American banking transactions to comply with sharia law.
Increase America's debt to ensure that Americans will be interminably indebted to other countries and forced to do business with sharia-compliant banks, thus promoting the quiet takeover of the avowed enemy.
Hinder economic movement in America by setting up roadblocks for small businesses, the lifeblood of American enterprise.
Turn his back on believers in freedom and choice as they are inimical to jihadism.
Hurt Americans ability to stay well. A weakened and distracted America will not worry too much about stealth jihadist movements.
Permit sharia financing to infiltrate American banking by controlling those very banks.
Associate with the Muslim Brotherhood because the Muslim Brotherhood's mission in America is "to destroy the Western civilization from within." In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood "seeks to establish an Islamic Caliphate spanning the entire Muslim world. It also aspires to make Islamic (Shari'a) law the sole basis of jurisprudence and governance...."
Encapsulated in the Brotherhood's militant credo [is the following]

"God is our objective, the Koran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, struggle is our way, and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations"

Thus, "the Brotherhood since its founding has supported the use of armed struggle, or jihad. The Brotherhood supports the waging of jihad against non-Muslim "infidels," and has expressed support for terrorism against Israel, whose legitimacy the Brotherhood does not recognize, and against the West, particularly the United States."

Appoint someone who seeks to promote sharia law throughout America.
Not object to the enforced segregation of Muslims and non-Muslims in the Islamic world since jihadists regard anyone not a Muslim as a second class citizen, at best.
Maintain a double standard concerning freedom and civil rights when it applies to Jews because the Jews are infidels.
Bow to the king of Saudi Arabia to show homage
Show indifference to people seeking independence from a fanatical tyrant.
Ignore the plight of gay people living under Islamic rule; after all sharia law mandates stoning of gays.
Try to undermine a democratically held election in a foreign country as democratic choice runs counter to Islamic belief.
Offend countries that have democratic beliefs.
Disregard the destruction of Christian holy places by jihadists, since Christians are also the infidel.
Lie about issues because taqiyya is an accepted method of jihadist policy in order to spread Muslim rule.
Accept linguistic euphemisms to hide the true intent of jihadist action.
Show disdain for American democratic values and commemorations of American bravery in the fight against totalitarianism, especially since Naziism shares many similarities to jihadist belief.
Bully the only democracy in the midst of all those sharia-compliant countries in the Middle East in order to defeat this outpost of freedom.
All of the above have been done by our 44th president.

Again, I ask, what would a jihadist do?

Nancy Pelosi calls for investigation into opponents of Ground Zero Mosque
Thomas Lifson
The most powerful woman in government "join[s] those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded." KCBS radio in San Francisco interviewed the Speaker. Listen here.

Pelosi made a fool of herself calling the tea parties "Astroturf," and this remark is, if anything, even stupider. On Planet Pelosi, the only way a political movement happens is with funding and direction from above -- as in the case of the vast network of Soros-funded organizations, and the Axelrod-sponsored Astroturf groups. The concept that ordinary people stand up and protest because of their convictions is alien to her.

So much for her respect for the will of the people. They are but sheep on Planet Peloisi, objects to be manipulated.

Tuesday: They were a way of describing mankind's moods and emotions.

Tuesday: Trying to describe God as a elderly white man was just an offshoot from the Roman and Greek Gods.