Dano, are you saying you will not play me until you can get Gothic Vortex working on your computer? I thought it was very weak and you were its master?

So you won't play me unless you have Gothic Vortex? How interesting.

Ed challenges Dano

Fencer can confirm this challenge was sent. And this image is hosted on a domain he controls.

Let's see if Dano is scared.

You did not accept yet Dano, you afraid of losing to me for the 4th time?

it's the one spending a halflife on spamming boards with hopeless humbug -
and the other half on deleting the traces of those poor performances, later ... ~*~

Ed challenges Dano

Fencer can confirm this challenge was sent. And this image is hosted on a domain he controls.

Let's see if Dano is scared.

Shouldn't you be in bed like a good wittle boy?

To smoke is healthy indeed - certifies Doctor Marlboro ... ~*~

Very funny Scarlet! I am laughing so hard! I can just see Dano now sitting in his chair wishing he could remove that funny post, just yelling at himself, and nobody cares, lol!

a near miss after all - as the danoschek obviously is the only one yelling, not ... ~*~

Whereas it is 11 x 8 and includes a new piece which is the Danoschek. The Danoschek does not move, it just sits there and yells at the other pieces in a language they dont understand.

*giggle*

since a certain male in here High on his cloud. ahem... *Cough~Dano~Cough* didn't want to ask it himself.. I thought I would ask for him..

Q. What is the value of a pawn in Gothic Chess?*
;)

and saved anyway ... like who cares ~*~

LOL

complaints to jester@joker.ms (valid)
*yawn* your variant is too slow again, dear ... ~*~
rem: the reply-to was chickened away again *doubleyawn* an insult ? who cares.

would have arranged that a bit more sophisticatedly, but that is okay
- we know that wasting space collateraly was intended indeed ... *wink* ~*~

*wink ~ wink*..

Aces
1. QuoUsque
2. Caissus
3. ChessCarpenter
4. nantonas

Kings
5. HerculesBeast
6. strydor 
7. rabbitoid
8. tangram

Queens 
9. slate  
10. redsales
11. nstre 
12. Dredger

Jacks 
13. WhisperzQ 
14. mandirigma
15. Coenus
16. Savage

10's
17. facepan  
18. (the joker is here)
19. Fencer  
20. defrag1971 
21. anticonformista

9's  
22. grillyx  
23. grenv  
24. juangrande  
25. Greenknight  
26. Chessmaster1000

8's  
27. GKChesterton 
28. taikoki 
29. Bobes
30. tedbarber

7's 
31. diogenes  
32. Pedro Martínez 
33. SCRAT
34. Mikezilla

6's 
35. BuilderQ  
36. Scubbabisto 
37. JAGR 
38. tonyh

5's 
39. zetes
40. PUPPETMASTER
41. jestone
42. KeithGraham

4's
43. Nasmichael 
44. clean4today
45. Cerebro 
46. spocko

3's
47. presburger 
48. Zichac 
49. VikingX  
50. tahur

2's
51. bwildman
52. FriendJosh  
53. BIG BAD WOLF  
54. the65thsquare

what would you be without me, totally useless - our Miss Ellie *sigh* ... ~*~

REM: he preferred to delete his humbug later, but my reply is just so kewl 0:)

but where from the heck should you have gotten education, poor wee, no software ~*~

(*pssst* later remark: he chickened out again with his poor msg I hereby replied to)

sure you cAn --- what a silly bet.
the question that tortures you is, will you - honeypoop ... ~*~
REM : he chickened out again with his bigmouthy bet I hereby replied to

so with 2200 gothic ratings you'd nicely heel and heckle and say 'master' to me ?
have I got the conditions of your bet right ? since I had already 2185 before
all the timeouts (mainly pushed by commonly known chickens fearing the field) ... ~*~

whom could you fool here anyway ? lol - now really ~*~
)* annotation:
you may figure that this my reply refered to a post again minor suitable for children.

Maybe I will make a new deck again this year. If the top 52 players want their pictures on the 2004 deck of cards, let me know by September 1.

so glad the board comes back to its topic *smiles* - your
personality problems are minor interesting, with all probably not even due respect ... ~*~

*Only the real cutie knows I am talking to him* wonder if he will see this post! ;)

Having fun boyz~!?

you're talking of gothic chess finally - I SEE !
nope ain't got no master dano, how could it be ?
just kicked all the aces and kings that you made, means nothing ~*~

yes I saw your ferrari testosterosso still on the parking ... *sigh*
( always these silly and desperated attempts to balance beyond )
so I'm actually surprised that your post is almost close to being a challenge of culture ~*~

be mild with E.T. ... - and outerspace - c'mon we knew that b4 ... ~*~ :p

LMAO:)

the verbal output after you tried to cheat there too ? fancy. suggestions to improve ? ~*~

<great literal perspectives, those virtues of your socalled life
- maybe I should call a few gurlz-webclubs to put an independent vote ... >:)
but that's for you as neutrum by appearance probably minor valuable ... ~*~

maybe the board becomes less noisy and perhaps even public again
if you finally avoid screwing up periodicly - isn't good for gothic biz
- btw - since the quality of the products speaks for itself neither ... ~*~

I'd have different preferences, would elaborate indeed, you should know best.
I happen to prefer it short and painful - precisely spotted and ingeniously termed.
now better shush - that was just the socket of pandora's box - think eventually ...
Indeed it is NOT all of Gaul - are you hard of reading ?? Yes it is Gallia, but in her
mythic entity based on tribal connections, and surely NOT France - Helvetii are from Switzerland, you randomly arranged sparepart storage of history, bare of any clue ... ~*~

REM:
you may figure that he babbled back senselessly and noticed later how deleteworthy he was.

Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres - please take note that Caesar doesn't say
'Gallia omnis' which would be 'whole Gallia', but he means "Gallia is, in her entirety"
like 'E.T. the extra-testicle from outerspace' in his goofdom, not just the goofed E.T. ~*~

In 63 BC Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC), orator, statesman and patriot, attained the rank of consul and in that capacity exposed to the Roman senate the plot of Lucius Sergius Catilina (approx. 108-62 BC) and his friends to overthrow the government of Rome.

It came about in this way. Catiline, who was running for consulship a second time after having lost the first time around, tried to ensure his victory by resorting to blatant and excessive bribery. Cicero in self-righteous indignation issued a law prohibiting shenanigans of this kind. It was obvious to all that the law was directed specifically at Catiline. Catiline, in turn, conspires with some of his cronies to murder Cicero and the key men of the senate on the day of the election. Cicero discovered the plan and postponed the election to give the senate time to discuss the attempted coup de tat.

The day after the election was supposed to be held, Cicero addressed the senate on the matter and Catiline's reaction was immediate and violent. In response to Catiline's behavior, the senate issued a senatus consultum ultimum, a kind of declaration of martial law invoked whenever the senate and the Roman Republic were in imminent danger from treason or sedition. Ordinary law was suspended and Cicero, as consul, was invested with absolute power.

When the election was finally held, Catiline lost again. Anticipating the bad news, the conspirators had already begun to assemble an army, made up mostly of Sulla's veteran soldiers. The nucleus of conspirators was also joined by senators whose profligate tastes left them permanently without funds. The plan was to initiate an insurrection in all of Italy, put Rome to the torch and to kill as many senators as they could.

Through some crafty moves of his own, Cicero knew exactly what was being planned. On November 8 Cicero called for a meeting of the senate in the Temple of Jupiter in the Capitol, which was used for this purpose only when great danger threatened. Catiline had the temerity to attend also. It was then that Cicero delivered directly to Catiline his famous:


Quo usque tandem abutere, patientia nostra, O Catalina? Quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? Quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia? Nihilne te nocturnum praesidium Palati, nihil urbis vigiliae, nihil timor populi, nihil concursus bonorum omnium, nihil hic munitissimus habendi senatus locus, nihil horum ora voltusque moverunt? Patere tua consilia non sentis, constrictam iam horum omnium scientia teneri coniurationem tuam non vides? Quid proxima, quid superiore nocte egeris, ubi fueris, quos convocaveris, quid consilii ceperis, quem nostrum ignorare arbitraris? O tempora, o mores! Senatus haec intellegit. Consul videt; hic tamen vivit. Vivit? immo vero etiam in senatum venit, fit publici consilii particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem fortes viri satis facere rei publicae videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitemus. Ad mortem te, Catilina, duci iussu consulis iam pridem oportebat, in te conferri pestem, quam tu in nos [omnes iam diu] machinaris. An vero vir amplissumus, P. Scipio, pontifex maximus, Ti. Gracchum mediocriter labefactantem statum rei publicae privatus interfecit; Catilinam orbem terrae caede atque incendiis vastare cupientem nos consules perferemus? Nam illa nimis antiqua praetereo, quod C. Servilius Ahala Sp. Maelium novis rebus studentem manu sua occidit.

Fuit, fuit ista quondam in hac re publica virtus, ut viri fortes acrioribus suppliciis civem perniciosum quam acerbissimum hostem coercerent. Habemus senatus consultum in te, Catilina, vehemens et grave, non deest rei publicae consilium neque auctoritas huius ordinis; nos, nos, dico aperte, consules desumus. Decrevit quondam senatus, ut L. Opimius consul videret, ne quid res publica detrimenti caperet; nox nulla intercessit; interfectus est propter quasdam seditionum suspiciones C. Gracchus, clarissimo patre, avo, maioribus, occisus est cum liberis M. Fulvius consularis. Simili senatus consulto C. Mario et L. Valerio consulibus est permissa res publica; num unum diem postea L. Saturninum tribunum pl. et C. Servilium praetorem mors ac rei publicae poena remorata est? At [vero] nos vicesimum iam diem patimur hebescere aciem horum auctoritatis. Habemus enim huiusce modi senatus consultum, verum inclusum in tabulis tamquam in vagina reconditum, quo ex senatus consulto confestim te interfectum esse, Catilina, convenit. Vivis, et vivis non ad deponendam, sed ad confirmandam audaciam. Cupio, patres conscripti, me esse clementem, cupio in tantis rei publicae periculis me non dissolutum videri, sed iam me ipse inertiae nequitiaeque condemno. Castra sunt in Italia contra populum Romanum in Etruriae faucibus conlocata, crescit in dies singulos hostium numerus; eorum autem castrorum imperatorem ducemque hostium intra moenia atque adeo in senatu videmus intestinam aliquam cotidie perniciem rei publicae molientem. Si te iam, Catilina, comprehendi, si interfici iussero, credo, erit verendum mihi, ne non potius hoc omnes boni serius a me quam quisquam crudelius factum esse dicat. Verum ego hoc, quod iam pridem factum esse oportuit, certa de causa nondum adducor ut faciam. Tum denique interficiere, cum iam nemo tam inprobus, tam perditus, tam tui similis inveniri poterit, qui id non iure factum esse fateatur. Quamdiu quisquam erit, qui te defendere audeat, vives, et vives ita, ut [nunc] vivis. multis meis et firmis praesidiis obsessus, ne commovere te contra rem publicam possis. Multorum te etiam oculi et aures non sentientem, sicut adhuc fecerunt, speculabuntur atque custodient.

Etenim quid est, Catilina, quod iam amplius expectes, si neque nox tenebris obscurare coeptus nefarios nec privata domus parietibus continere voces coniurationis tuae potest, si illustrantur, si erumpunt omnia? Muta iam istam mentem, mihi crede, obliviscere caedis atque incendiorum.

Quo usque is how the first oration of Cicero against Cataline starts out.

Quo usque tandem abutere patientia nostra, O Catalina!"

How long will you continue to abuse our patience, O Cataline?

Of note is that Cicero used "abutere" instead of "abuteris", which is 2 person, singular, future tense for "will you abuse". His change of the language was stylistic and caught the attention of his audience, and it added additional emphasis to his fantastic speech.

You should now know why I changed my name if you read through all of the trashy posts left by Danoschek, who is the biggest pain in the butt the world has ever known.

Quo usque tandem abutere patientia nostra, O Danoschek!"

since fake you applied that position is occupied, obviously ... ~*~

I don't post much to boards as such. Can someone tell me is danoschek a boy or a girl + why does he speak and answer questions that ain't even being asked of him? Is he a retard?

this time it was no hacker - he married a former KM and that's why the name change ~*~

Since i was away from Brainking as i was on a trip at the amazing amazon river (and lost all me games by time:-( ) who is this QuoUsque??

It is obviously Gothic Inventor but why did you changed your name? And what this QuoUsque means?

worldwide as educational toys later ... the Frankh Publishing House (aka Kosmos)
is one of the best examples, preferred by parents who didn't like their kids becoming
narrow-specialized idiots who spend their pity lives on boards making up history ... ~*~

<>To solve chess, a computer the size of the universe is needed. There is a very famous >paper on this, I forget where it is. There are more chess positions than atoms in the >universe, so with "information density" such that a solution to one position could fit on >one atom (an impossibility) you would need a universe to solve chess.

This is wrong for 2 reasons:

A)You don't have to store the solution somewhere. You just have to find it and then play it.

B)It is possible that a set of strategic rules can be found which ensure a win for one of the players or a draw for both. If the correctness of these rules can be proven, it is not necessary to evaluate a large number of positions, to obtain the result of the game if both players play correctly. (Victor Allis)
For example at Connect 4 7x6, there are about 1.6·10^13 position possible so to store all these positions we would need 4 TB, but the game has been solved and the program that plays perfect Connect 4 7x6 is only 2.5 MB.

Duh.

said the fox that could not climb the tree ... ~*~

You are so full of crap Dano.

I programmed an invincible box in 1965 ... no I had no
computers yet ... it was on an array of ten 128-pole switches
- that's actually enough, some boolean skills presumed ... ~*~

She was obviously a good teacher,Dano:)

I don't play children's game unless to please auntie margarete ~*~

The Chinook progam had 2.5 billion positions in its RAM database when I played it. It searched about 170,000 positions per second.

Let's see you beat it Dano.

http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~chinook is the link.

or will I be banned cause big deal has nothing to do with gothic ?
the only world class checkers program that existed was my auntie margarete ... ~*~