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Subiectul: Rules

http://www.seirawanchess.com would have the rules. Not really that different from regular 8x8 chess except for the entering pieces.

16. Iulie 2008, 15:50:59

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Subiectul: Re: Seirawan Chess

mahavrilla: Even though this site has been bringing other non-chess games to this site, the site owner at heart is a chess player (as the 34 chess variants on this site can show)

So a good chess variant probable has a very good chance of being brought here. Does anyone have a good link to some good rules for the game?

30. Iunie 2008, 17:09:23

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Subiectul: Re: Seirawan Chess

panzerschiff:

Lets play a 2 game match. Lets email here.

29. Iunie 2008, 04:52:36

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Subiectul: Seirawan Chess

Anybody like to try it the old fashioned way with notion by email or email on this site? I have not played a complete game although had seen a few games scores that were posted by Bruce Harper.

26. Iunie 2008, 02:22:30

tenuki

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Subiectul: Re: Seirawan Chess

mahavrilla: Sadly, I don´t think so, lately Brainking is only hosting no-brainers (Dice Chess, Behemot Chess, Ludo, etc) or member´s inventions which mostly are boring or flawed (one side has huge advantage)...

25. Iunie 2008, 07:31:47

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Subiectul: Re: Seirawan Chess

I have tried it and like it. Will Brainking host it?

18. Iunie 2008, 00:47:13

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Subiectul: Seirawan Chess

Anybody have a chance to try out Seirawan chess? I know it is an 8x8 variant technically, but it does use the B+N and R+N movers found more frequently in 10x8 or 10x10 variants.

16. Iunie 2008, 20:21:43

Paladin is another name for a B+N mover at least according the the http://chessvariants.org website. Having a R+N mover at the edge or close to the edge of the board would avoid having a couple of pawns unprotected at the beginning of the game, which is one criticism that Janus chess and some other 10x8 variants recieve.

I think the chess variants site also has in the zillions of games engine a big board variant that does use two R+N movers, but I can't remember its name. I think traditionally it has been more typical to mix the two pieces like in Embassy or Gothic Chess rather than having two of the same. Carrera's original 1617 suggestion contained an array similar to Janus chess, but had the R+N mover on the same side of the board as the king. More recently Aberg's variant of Capablanca Chess has used a similar arrangement, but with free castling. (The king and rook can interchange with each other anywhere along their castling path.) However Janus chess seems to work pretty well and maybe a variant with two R+N movers would as well.

Changing the subject slightly, In my view variants the 10x8 variants that move the minor pieces in closer to the middle of the board have sharper and more concrete opening play. Where the minors are further from the center like in Embassy or Gothic chess you often have to spend another move to have them properly developed, which slows the opening play down somewhat.

16. Iunie 2008, 18:05:09

Subiectul: Re: Palladan Chess?

cpaul_d2004: SMIRF pages and more at http://www.chessbox.de/Compu/schachsmirf_e.html

16. Iunie 2008, 16:30:07

cpaul_d2004

Subiectul: Palladan Chess?

I once heard about a game called "Palladan Chess, I believe. It was set up the same as Janus Chess except for having two Arhcbishops (Januses) it had two Chancellors (Palladans).

Has anybody else heard anything about this?

cpaul_d2004

16. Iunie 2008, 16:26:45

tenuki

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Subiectul: Re: Castling

SMIRF Engine: HI Reinhart!
Which is your new URL? I can´t found your page anymore...

16. Iunie 2008, 09:40:25

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Subiectul: Re: Castling

mahavrilla: O-O (two "O" symbols) will bring the King on the second square from the right side.
O-O-O (three "O" symbols) will bring the King on the third square from the left side.
The involved Rook will be placed then at the King's inner neighbour square.
This is similar to how castling is performed in traditional chess or in Chess960.

15. Iunie 2008, 19:50:47

Subiectul: Castling

Can anyone tell me which sqaures the white K and R will land on in Capablanca Random Chess in algerbraic notation?

15. Iunie 2008, 19:47:53

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Subiectul: differences

Do you happen to know the difference between Gothic chess and Embassy chess?

15. Iunie 2008, 18:09:11

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Subiectul: Re: most popular 8x10 chess?

mahavrilla: Here on BrainKing, the number of running games (see http://brainking.com/en/Statistics?p=2):
67. Janus Chess 120
73. Embassy Chess 96
117. Capablanca Random Chess 41

15. Iunie 2008, 17:25:57

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Subiectul: most popular 8x10 chess?

Does anyone know which of the 8x10 chess variants is the most popular?

27. Mai 2008, 22:17:17

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Subiectul: Re: castling in Capablanca random chess

mahavrilla:How does one generate an acceptable random position in Capablanca chess without a computer?

I suggest using a standard 6 sided die.

First place all pawns on the 2th (7th for black) row. Then fill the first (eight for black) row using the rules below.

First place the a bishop on a white square using the following technique. Roll the die. If you roll a six, re-roll (keep re-rolling till you don't roll a six). Count that many white squares from the left and place the bishop there. Do the same thing for black squares.

Now we are going to place the queen and the archbishop. One of them has to be placed on a white square, the other on a black square. Roll the die; if you rolled even, the queen goes on white (and the archbishop on black), otherwise the queen goes on black (and the archbishop on white). Roll the die, re-roll a five and a six. Count that many white (or black depending on the odd/even roll) squares from the left, skipping squares containing a bishop, and place the queen. Do the same for the other coloured squares and the archbishop.

You now have six unoccupied squares left. Roll the die. Count that many unoccupied squares from the left. Place the Chancellor on this field.

Roll the die again, re-roll on a six. Count that many unoccupied squares from the left, place a knight here. Roll again, re-rolling on a five and a six. Count that many unoccupied squares from the left, place the other knight here.

You know have three unoccupied squares left. Place the king in the middle of the three. Place the rooks in the remaining two.

This requires at least 8 throws of the die, and 10.1 throws on average.

26. Mai 2008, 23:33:40

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Subiectul: Re: castling in capablanca random chess

SMIRF Engine:

Thx. How does one generate an acceptable random position in capablanca chess without a computer?

26. Mai 2008, 22:59:24

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Subiectul: Re: castling in capablanca random chess

mahavrilla: there is no identified K-side. As in traditional chess the King is moving to the c-file when castling O-O-O (three squares from a-side) or he is moving to the i-file when casting O-O (two squares from j-side). The involved rook will be placed upon the kings' inner neighbour square. Thus the resulting castling positions of K and R are identical (seen from outer sides) as known from traditional chess or from Chess960 / FRC.

26. Mai 2008, 21:31:04

Subiectul: castling in capablanca random chess

Which side is the k-side from white's perspective? What are the possible positions for the king and rooks after castling?

12. Februarie 2008, 18:38:56

Styleone

Hi 10*8 chess friends,

the Gothic Chess live site is re-opening. You can play at www.gothic-chess.com.

Hope to see you there sometimes.
Greetings

11. Noiembrie 2007, 05:23:52

tenuki

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Subiectul: Re: Tournament win

Walter Montego: Thanks!
I recommend reviewing last game:
Embassy Chess (panzerschiff vs. tenuki)
which involves a knight sacrifice with black pieces at an early stage of the game.

9. Noiembrie 2007, 06:38:35

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Subiectul: Tournament win

Congratulations tenuki on winning the Second Quarter 2006 Embassy Chess tournament. Wow, that can take some time, can't it? I'm glad I set the playoff to two wins. Three can take along time.

2006 Second Quarter Open Number 2 Embassy Chess

2006 Second Quarter Open Number 2 Embassy Chess
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30. Octombrie 2007, 23:34:34

ScarletRose

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Subiectul: KnOcKy kNoCKy

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8. Octombrie 2007, 19:52:37

Subiectul: Re: Vortex vs. SMIRF "Blog Game"

Walter Montego: You wrote: "It's way too much trouble for me to try to play through it at home without a 10 × 8 board and pieces."

You could download a Donationware version of SMIRF from http://www.10x8.net/down/SmNewSetup.exe. This will give you the cance to cut and paste the PGN and to replay it at the SMIRF GUI then.

8. Octombrie 2007, 19:47:48

Subiectul: Re: Vortex vs. SMIRF "Blog Game"

Walter Montego: Well, SMIRF won that game, this has it been in PGN:

[Event "Longtime 10x8 Game"]
[Site "GothicChess.BlogSpot.com"]
[Date "2007.10.07"]
[Time "00:25:48"]
[Round "Blog-Game-1"]
[White "Gothic Vortex"]
[Black "Smirf MS-168i"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "RS"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. Nh3 g6 2. d4 Nh6 3. g3 c6 4. Bf3 Na6 5. Bf4 f6 6. Be3 Qb6 7. Nc3 Qxb2 8. Cd3
Qa3 9. Ne4 Qa5 10. d5 Qxd5 11. Cxd5 Axd5 12. Bxh6+ ixh6 13. Nd6 Cxd6 14. Bxd5
Cxd5 15. Qxd5 cxd5 16. Af3 e6 17. O-O b6 18. Ah4 j5 19. Ni5 hxi5 20. Axi5+ Ke7
21. Axh7 Rj6 22. h4 Nc5 23. h5 g5 24. h6 Ba6 25. Ag6+ Kd6 26. e3 Be2 27. a4 Bf3
28. Rh2 Be4 29. Ah5 Bxc2 30. a5 Rb8 31. axb6 axb6 32. f4 Bh7 33. fxg5 fxg5 34.
Af7+ Kc6 35. Rc1 g4 36. Ag5 Rj7 37. Af4 Rg8 38. Ah5 Rj8 39. Af7 Ra8 40. Rd2 j4
41. Ag5 Be4 42. Rg1 j3 43. i3 Be5 44. Ai4 b5 45. Ah5 b4 46. Axg4 d6 47. Rdd1 b3
48. Ah5 b2 49. i4 Rji8 50. Kh2 Rah8 51. Af7 Bf6 52. Axh8 Rxh8 53. i5 Ri8 54.
Ri1 Bxj2 55. Rj1 Bg5 56. Rxj3 Rxi5 57. g4 Ri6 58. Rjj1 Rxh6+ 59. Ki2 Bf3 60.
Rb1 Bxg4+ 61. Ki1 Ri6+ 62. Kh1 Ri2 63. Rj4 Bf5 64. Rb4 Ne4 65. Rxe4 Re2 66. Rb4
Bxb1 67. e4 Bxe4+ 68. Kg1 b1=Q+ 69. Rxb1 Be3+ 70. Kf1 Rf2+ 71. Ke1 Bxb1 72. Kd1
Bd3 73. Ke1 Rf1# 0-1

8. Octombrie 2007, 06:51:56

Walter Montego

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Subiectul: Re: Vortex vs. SMIRF "Blog Game"

Modificat de Walter Montego (8. Octombrie 2007, 06:52:28)

SMIRF Engine: Did SMIRF win this game? The link no longer has a game board that I can play through to see how the game was played. Is there another place or link for that? It's way too much trouble for me to try to play through it at home without a 10 × 8 board and pieces.

22. Septembrie 2007, 08:40:34