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16. Ianuarie 2010, 00:49:25
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Help for recruiting Beginner's tournament
Tian-Xian: It's because good players could be tempted to log in with a new name to win the price.

15. Ianuarie 2010, 17:19:01
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re:
happy hermit

15. Ianuarie 2010, 10:49:56
Chaos 
Subiectul: Help for recruiting Beginner's tournament
Modificat de Chaos (16. Ianuarie 2010, 16:12:41)
I could use some help recruiting for the Espionage beginner's tournament. I have 20 players signed up now, I'm aiming at 25 at least. This should be possible considering the prizes, only it's hard to reach the beginners.


So I'm asking for help: maybe in your games (also other than espionage) you meet players who might be interested in joining. They can't have a rating higher than 1500 in any of the espionage variants and their 1st log in has to be before nov 29th last year.


The prizes they can win:


#1 - 1 year rook + 9 months bonus!
#2 - 6 months rook
#3 - 6 months knight


If you find interested players, please send them to me, or send me a message so I can invite them. Thanks!

14. Ianuarie 2010, 11:02:56
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tournament
Styleone: Tony (creepingdoom) said he would join.

12. Ianuarie 2010, 14:11:42
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tournament
OneEyedJack: Welcome Jack :) Good to see you here!

Here's the link to the tournament:


Scroll down to the link 'Small Fast Espionage' and click on 'signn up for this tournament'.

It's going to be a tough competition :)

7. Ianuarie 2010, 13:26:50
Chaos 
Subiectul: tournament
So Bosse creates small fast #2, and Nothingness creates a different (volcano?) type with Brain Prize afterwards?

Let's get the small fast rolling :)

3. Ianuarie 2010, 13:44:22
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Small Fast #2
SL-Bosse: sounds good :) 3 days is probably better to avoid too much time outs.

3. Ianuarie 2010, 12:12:02
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tourney
Nothingness: Maybe you could set up small fast #2? I've got a few new players who are interested in playing in an espioinage tournament who don't qualify for the beginner's tournament. Would be good to have an alternative for them as well.

29. Decembrie 2009, 12:14:17
Chaos 
Subiectul: Teamtournament? Small Fast tournament?
Hi Nothingness, still want to set up a team for the teamtournament?

Bosse, still planing to create the Small fast #2?

 

 

23. Decembrie 2009, 14:34:44
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: teamtournament
dAGGER: Maybe you can consider a membership? It's not that expensive.

Maybe Eric wants to play in a team as well?

23. Decembrie 2009, 14:28:46
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: teamtournament
SL-Bosse: I just saw that there can only be 4 player's in the team, so I guess it's a good idea if you have a fellowship as well to create another team, because now there are 6 player's in nothingness' team, already 2 too many. I can join your team if you want, then Nothingness has 4 players left. I saw Mark already signed up for another team as well. The Leaguers will play against eachother!

 

23. Decembrie 2009, 14:19:15
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: teamtournament
Nothingness: How many people can join a team? Maybe Bosse is right, if there are more player's interested than there are places in the team, it would be great if he'd made another espionage fellowship. Maybe first wait if it's necessary.

Jim, here's the link:


23. Decembrie 2009, 13:53:11
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: teamtournament
SL-Bosse: One espionage fellowship should be enough or not? Or can't all players who want to all join the same team from 1 fellowship?

Indeed it's too bad pawns can't join.

23. Decembrie 2009, 10:33:27
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: teamtournament
Nothingness: I'm in the Freak group, how can I join the teamtournament?

21. Decembrie 2009, 12:16:30
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tournament postings
Nothingness: ah, we had a little misunderstanding :) Thx Eric for clearing that up and thx Mark for posting here.

21. Decembrie 2009, 12:12:32
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Resher
Modificat de Chaos (21. Decembrie 2009, 18:10:55)
Pedro Martínez: Both Nothingness and I checked Resher's stats thoroughly. His wins by time-outs were games not even half played against the same 2 absolute beginner opponents in every variant. The rating was based on 4 games, 1 more than an unrated status. Based on those data I call someone a beginner. If trained by Nothingness I'm not surprised Resher is improving rapidly. I have no doubt Nothingness takes this job very seriously and Resher seems eager to learn, as can be seen by the large amount of espionage games of all sorts he has taken up since he signed up for the tournament, quite some of them against you. I'm sure he's learning a lot from you as well.We encourage the beginners to train themselves for the tournament, so it's only likely some will get above the beginner's level before the tournament.

Maybe that clarifies things?

20. Decembrie 2009, 14:11:16
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tourney
Nothingness: you must have missed my last post, it was 13 december. I was planning on once a week. If you want to see it more often, that's fine if you post them.

19. Decembrie 2009, 14:05:53
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tourney
Nothingness: I repost it regularly, can't do it every day though. There are many other people posting tournaments, they have the right to be seen as well.

14. Decembrie 2009, 11:28:55
Chaos 
Subiectul: Help for beginner
Modificat de Chaos (14. Decembrie 2009, 15:55:20)

Anyone care to help MadMonkey a bit on his way to the tournament?



 

14. Decembrie 2009, 11:23:31
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: rookie tourney
Nothingness: With single elimination half of them is out after just 1 game! The idea is that they all start to learn and hopefully enjoy playing the game. Round robin has a minimum of 5 here. Let's see how many beginners we get, I could adjust it to 5 if it's a multiple of 5.

9. Decembrie 2009, 17:49:53
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: time limit
happy hermit: Sounds to me like a game could last quite long that way. Is the limit the limit for the total game or for the bonustime? I never got that right.

9. Decembrie 2009, 16:39:20
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: time limit
Styleone: You have a point there. though I prefer 2 days, I could live with 3.

8. Decembrie 2009, 16:27:35
Chaos 
Subiectul: Small Fast #2
Hey Bosse, still planning to create the small fast tournament?

7. Decembrie 2009, 11:02:04
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Tournament winner
SL-Bosse: Thanks :) I'm very happy with it! :) :) I still think there should be another round if players have the same amount of points though. I think the S-B thing is odd. If the reasoning is that you're stronger if you win against opponents with a lot of points it should also makes you weaker if you lose against an opponent with less points.

6. Decembrie 2009, 21:02:05
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: 3 vs Sab (Spy) in Open
happy hermit: Hmmm, with you're playing style you can probably get away with it. Most of us don't. But if it's the last spy and I still have a lot of unknown pieces I think I might be tempted even to to sacrifice a 4 or 5 :) But ofcourse I like to bluff and do not like spies at all :)

6. Decembrie 2009, 20:14:37
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: waiting room
Nothingness: any player means it's not a specific player. Only unrated players/players below 1500 will be able to see your games though. I can't see your games them in the waiting room.

5. Decembrie 2009, 11:14:44
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: tourney
Nothingness: a little patience :) People have to get an invitation to enter the tournament, and there are also pawns who have to finish another tournament first. In the mean time do place espionage games in the wsiting room to get new players who might be interested!

2. Decembrie 2009, 20:38:01
Chaos 
Subiectul: link to tournament

2. Decembrie 2009, 16:04:03
Chaos 
Subiectul: Sign up for the tournament has started
If you've found a beginner interested in the game send a message to me so I can invite them to the tournament.

1. Decembrie 2009, 10:16:26
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Beginner's tournament proposal
SL-Mark: #3: 6 months Brain Knight? I'm willing to pay for #1 and #2, maybe you want to skip in for #3?

I've found two pupils: Jimbone and lornita. The more students the better, right? I would like to encourage people to take on as many students as they can handle. This way players who aren't dark chess champs may also get a change to be trained :)

29. Noiembrie 2009, 18:30:27
Chaos 
Subiectul: Beginner's tournament proposal
start: 30 januari

fast espionage, 3 days + weekends

open for anyone with ratings 1500 or less or unrated, first log in before today.

minimum: 25 players, max 5 players in each section

invitation only - 

Nothingness just came up with a player who wanted to enter who had ratings above 1500 for all variants just because he was in an all game tournament and the opponents never moved. he never actually won a played game. I'm sure everyone who wants to be in will simply ask me to invite them.

 

Prize:

#1 - 1 year rook

#2 - 1/2 year rook

#3 - 100 brains (or another amount, have to check what that's worth)

 

ok, pls give me feedback! I'd like to have the signing in begin soon so people notice and turn to us to train or train themselves.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 22:08:41
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
rod03801: ok, in that case an open tournament maybe the best idea.

 

Say starting 30 januari?

28. Noiembrie 2009, 21:25:47
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
SL-Mark: inviting them is not so much effort. Since there is a prize I expect a lot of interest, and players approaching me. All of you can point players out to me. I can then invite them, and all beginner's I come accross. I'm prepared to do the extra work involved.

 

I don't think you can exclude participants already signed up.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 18:17:49
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
happy hermit: That was my first thought, but  a rating below1500 or unrated still means they could have a very high rating in a different variant. They may just never have played fast espionage.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 17:44:40
Chaos 
Subiectul: Starting date beginner's tournament
I want to create the beginner's tournament. I will award a prize for the winner. When shall I have it started? I will make it an invitation only tournament otherwise strong players might enter. I'm sure no Leaguer would do this, but others might.

 

Please let me know how much time you think you need to find a good pupil, and do let them know they can win a year rook's membership!

27. Noiembrie 2009, 23:17:28
Chaos 
Subiectul: pupil
I've found a pupil who wants to go for it :)

Have you all been looking hard to find a new talent?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:12:50
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Mentoring
SL-Mark: Players who've already played Sabotage at IYT are not allowed ofcourse.

Well, Eric, I give up, who is our mystery player?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 00:53:05
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
happy hermit: HoFer?

25. Noiembrie 2009, 12:42:20
Chaos 
Subiectul: beginner's tournament
When shall I start the have the beginner's tournament started? januari 15th? What variant shall we choose for them? They often start out playing  volcano variants.

 

Among the veteterans Fast espionage seems the most popular volcano variant. Maybe the tournament after next could be Fast? If I organise a Fast tournament for the beginner's before that, they can play along in our normal tournament playing fast.

 

I'm considering giving out a 1-year rook price for the winner of the beginner's tournament.

I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!

24. Noiembrie 2009, 00:26:03
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Naughty Mark
SL-Mark: I already directed people to BK in my biographical information at IYT, and now you told me this I recommend BK also in the ratings for all the sabotage games on my profile at IYT

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:30:58
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
Modificat de Chaos (23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:34:58)
SL-Mark: ah, this was the game we agreed to place our headquarters on the front line, right?  So I first have to get around those to get to the mines!

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:17:19
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: So you won't tell me the location of your mines?

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:10:06
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: You mean I should go for mines instead of victory? Ok, if you tell me your mines I promise I'll change my strategy in our game.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:44:18
Chaos 
Subiectul: espionage master!
aaru: Indeed you're the one and only espionage master so far! I find it hard to get the mines. If I'm in a game about to capture them my oppnent usually resigns.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 00:21:51
Chaos 
Subiectul: beginner's tournament
What do all you think of a beginners/newbee tournament to get fresh blood into the League?

I would be willing to set it up if I get a litlle help scouting.

22. Noiembrie 2009, 23:07:46
Chaos 
Subiectul: Espionage variants
Nothingness: would BK consider implementing a 4 player variant? In Stratego such variant exists. I would love that. And ofcourse there's the corner variant already existing at IYT, we could ask for that one here. It requires quite a different strategy.

 

As for playing volcano tournaments, if there are just a few players who want to be in those it's no use. Maybe the league has to grow first? I'm ok with a fast (volcano) tournament after the next, but I don't think I'll enter.

22. Noiembrie 2009, 14:45:07
Chaos 
Subiectul: poll
Celticjim: when do we let the poll end? On the list Bosse made some time ago he counted 19 players reading this forum. Should we ask other players in the the small fast #1 and open fast #1 who don't seem to read this forum to vote?

19. Noiembrie 2009, 20:58:01
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Poll
Celticjim: you create a poll letting only you vote?

Maybe it's because we all get in through the same link from here at BK.

19. Noiembrie 2009, 18:46:53
Chaos 
Subiectul: new tournament
Isn't there much interest in the messageboard lately or are there just a few of us who want the new tournament? Tell us hear what you want!

16. Noiembrie 2009, 09:25:32
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: "The Italian Disguise"-tournament
SL-Bosse:  2days + weekend (I already voted for Small Fast).

As soon as a start day is agreed I think signing up could start. I'd set the start date a little later than 1 december, but I'll join if it will be the date.

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