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29. Octombrie 2009, 09:15:42
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: work
Nothingness: congrats & good luck in your new job!

28. Octombrie 2009, 22:54:10
Nothingness 
Subiectul: work
I just got a new job this week and my time moving will be slowed ten fold! So please bear with me in this transitional period. Thanks.

26. Octombrie 2009, 14:40:21
Nothingness 
Subiectul: saved setups
No i never use saved setups. What i mean is that if for example i have my base in the right corner of a game that I'm losing badly. instead of just resigning immediately I'll wait or slow down until other games in that section are close to ending. so that an opponent that im in a closer game with doesn't logically deduce where i may have set my base in that game in comparison to the game i just lost!

I too also use set ups when I face specific players. A taylor made Setup for just that game and opponent. In those cases i save them setups. and ill name them after that opponent.

26. Octombrie 2009, 12:59:43
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re:fast/slow
SL-Mark: I agree with you. Especially when a lot of pieces haven't been revealed yet one is bound to take more time to play. When you're in a losing position there's the consideration of playing at high risk. You'll want to look track the game back to see how it developed. Takes time and concetration. You don't always have that while you're online.

 

Still I agree with Jim it can be quite annoying when people wait till the very last to move.

26. Octombrie 2009, 12:42:36
Chaos 
Subiectul: set-ups
happy hermit: Once upon a time I tried to make set-ups especially designed for the specific opponent I was about to encounter. I would save the set-up so I could make a totally different one the next time I'd play this opponent. Ofcourse I didn't pursue this strategy, took too much time. Still with some opponents I make set-ups that feel odd to me and wouldn't use against others. They seem work in those cases. Ofcourse I'm not revealing the specifics :)

26. Octombrie 2009, 12:09:14
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: slowing down..
Nothingness: Do you use saved set-ups?

I remember seeing a game once between pcron and Ruth. pcron used a saved set-up and Ruth apparently determined which one and blew him right off the board attacking pieces she had never revealed. There seems to be more risk than reward in that approach.

On my end, I almost always start my games by setting the bombs/base on the back row, putting two Saboteurs on the back row, three Recons in the front row and then hitting 'randomly place remaining pieces'.

26. Octombrie 2009, 04:49:39
Nothingness 
Subiectul: slowing down..
Do not forget that slowing down while losing has its strategic needs as to not reveal your set ups to the rest of the players in your bracket. So that they can get a feel for your set ups in that particular tourney.

25. Octombrie 2009, 22:52:19
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Celticjim:

Jim-

The loss to nickchanger was interesting. I played the game with no notes and little thought, which is pretty much how I play anyone that hasn't won a game against me (or that I otherwise have reason to think might be a challenge), but that game had an extra twist.

I had given up a couple of pieces just to get to that position, but my intent was to clear around that back corner, bring in the Recon and determine the pieces even though I was 98% sure the base was in the corner. On the preceding move he sent the message 'good game' which I took as a concession that the base was in the corner, so I simply moved to capture it and save a few moves. That worked out poorly for me. :)

I'll go on record here as saying nickchanger will not win another game against me. :)

-Eric

25. Octombrie 2009, 22:13:54
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Celticjim: Missed that one Jim.
Rushing your opponents so as to cause them to make a mistake

25. Octombrie 2009, 21:52:48
Celticjim 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Modificat de Celticjim (25. Octombrie 2009, 21:56:04)
happy hermit: Eric,I had a look at your one loss the other day,that was interesting--nickchanger I think wasn't it who pulled a fast one on you,made me chuckle and applaud him cuz you are one tough nut to crack *edit*

25. Octombrie 2009, 21:46:10
Celticjim 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Modificat de Celticjim (25. Octombrie 2009, 21:50:20)
SL-Mark: haha,great post Mark---very valid points one and all.
And of course my post was undoubtedly attempting to exert a psychological lever somewhere hehe

25. Octombrie 2009, 20:44:55
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Celticjim: The smell of victory will bring fast moves; possible defeat long periods of thought; imminent defeat either fast moves or long periods to bore one’s opponent! The latter is a perfectly acceptable strategy, though not necessarily sporting.

One of the great things about this game is the element of psychology. I can’t think of any other online game, other than poker, where this manifests itself to such a degree.

Just like in poker, it pisses the hell out of everyone when you wait until the last second to make your bet. Then emotions come into play, followed by mistakes! And a mistake in poker costs...

Jim, a win today, next week, or next month is still a win. Don’t turn a certainty into an improbability!

25. Octombrie 2009, 19:04:16
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Celticjim:

I haven't timed-out yet . . . . that's a mild surprise.

25. Octombrie 2009, 17:58:52
Celticjim 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
SL-Bosse:
so hows everyone getting on LOL-some surprises out there?
come on lets go,move people.See people on here all day long but they stopped moving *sigh* one thing that really puts me off

1. Octombrie 2009, 16:59:27
Nothingness 
Subiectul: brains
perhaps we can start playing for brains. if we play for a small amount this can help buy memberships for some of our pawn players.

21. Septembrie 2009, 19:57:08
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: pictures and namecalling
Modificat de happy hermit (21. Septembrie 2009, 19:57:35)
Chaos:

Perhaps someone can make a Sabotage League group on one of the social networking sites if anyone is interested in pictures.

I remember the ranking discussions. :) I remember trying to figure out to explain to moonhippie that he really had no way of determining who was a stronger player between Jozsef and Limbaugh . . . all he knew was they could both beat him. I eventually gave up.

21. Septembrie 2009, 19:28:00
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: pictures and namecalling
Celticjim: no, the pictures have not been saved... The League was fading at the time and I wasn't sure if people wanted me to keep pictures if the group didn't exist anymore.

 

I do remember that at IYT the messageboards were closed because of the awful namecalling getting out of hand. In the mean time the sabotageboard was peacefully used by enthousiast Leaguers for setting up tournaments, analysing strategies and 'heavy' discussions like what our rankingsystem should look like. We had a lot of voting on various issues in those days. We did have a short period were politics somehow sneaked it's way in for some strange reason, creating a lot of uproar with violent words spoken. Luckily it was over fast without leaving any hard feelings.

20. Septembrie 2009, 23:13:59
Celticjim 
you're probably right

19. Septembrie 2009, 18:45:41
rod03801 
Subiectul: Re:
Celticjim: Name calling and arguing is not allowed on any public discussion board on Brainking. Perhaps you were on a fellowship discussion board?

18. Septembrie 2009, 12:48:29
Celticjim 
it makes me think.....I've perused one or 2 other discussion boards and some of them seem to be full of kids arguing ,calling each other names and the like.It makes me wonder ,does sabotage/espionage attract an older player group?Seems to be that way at least from the pictures I remember from all the ones who sent their pictures in.Hey Chaos,you didn't happen to save those pictures did you?Or anyone else?Shame that MSN closed their groups section and that was lost.

17. Septembrie 2009, 01:07:13
redfrog 
Subiectul: Re: please welcome the new mod for this board
SL-Mark: yes - its been super tough - you are all so rowdy! ill finally be able to relax now that chaos has taken over!

15. Septembrie 2009, 23:35:09
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: please welcome the new mod for this board
redfrog: Thank you for all your hard work moderating this board. Well done Chaos for volunteering! We will try to make it an easy job for you

15. Septembrie 2009, 23:33:08
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: please welcome the new mod for this board
redfrog: Thank you Redfrog and thank you for monitoring this board untill now :)

15. Septembrie 2009, 23:14:25
redfrog 
Subiectul: please welcome the new mod for this board
Chaos has agreed to moderate this discussion board! I am happy to see the activity here recently and am happy to see an active player step up to be the mod.

1. Septembrie 2009, 06:52:13
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
SL-Bosse:

Looks like a reasonable section breakdown and 25 players means, I assume, only two rounds.

1. Septembrie 2009, 06:17:16
SL-Bosse 
Subiectul: Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1
Modificat de SL-Bosse (1. Septembrie 2009, 06:23:10)
After a small delay Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1 has started. One player hadn't enough of space for the tournament so it ends up with 25 players in 5 groups. Thanks to every one who signed up in the tournament and GOOD LUCK!!! 

31. August 2009, 20:30:06
Nothingness 
Subiectul: numbers...
As of this post we have 26 players. right now it seems as if there will be around 6 sections of 4+ players which is very nice. unless we get 4 more players (30).

31. August 2009, 20:11:20
Nothingness 
Tenuki and ouna you may be able to convince!

31. August 2009, 19:14:35
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re:
Styleone: Some other noteworthy exceptions, such as yourself, Sandoz, dAGGER, The Other Me, Tian Xian. Sadly all pawns and tied up in the Small Fast tournament.

31. August 2009, 18:25:38
Styleone 
yes, very competitive tournament.Would be perfekt when Pedro Martinez, david upshaw, ouna, AMTLatham, tenuki, Nuno Miguel, Bobes and creepingdoom join too.

31. August 2009, 17:51:25
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: I'm in
SL-GentleKiller:

Now Nothingness can call it a competitive tournament. :)

31. August 2009, 03:16:37
SL-GentleKiller 
Subiectul: I'm in
Signed up for the TOURNEY. Thank You, Chaos for contacting me at IYT!
I have to get used with BK, barely observed I have messages, ty, Bosse!

29. August 2009, 14:40:18
Nothingness 
ok... umm this is going to be one of the most competitive tournaments of all time! I'm really pumped but how does an unseeded player with 1 game played get a #1 seed hmmm! Whats the difference i'm psyched to play!

28. August 2009, 09:44:53
Chaos 
Subiectul: dmoresco
I've contacted dmoresco at IYT and he signed up for the tournament!

27. August 2009, 12:58:19
SL-Bosse 
Subiectul: Re: upcoming tourney!
dAGGER: I sent them an invitation earlier this week, but so far they are not in the tournament. Maybe it will help if some more players send them messages.

27. August 2009, 11:33:10
Nothingness 
id love nuno to get in!

27. August 2009, 08:28:48
dAGGER 
Subiectul: Re: upcoming tourney!
Are Joseph-Gentle Killer and Nuno Miguel in the tournament?

26. August 2009, 21:37:17
SL-Bosse 
Subiectul: Re: upcoming tourney!
Nothingness: Ok, I did as you wrote. I has invited Tony and wrote about Sabotage Leauge and the tournament on that board. In beginning of the week I also sent invitations to 15-20 players, and a lot of them has now joined the tournament. Sabotage Leauge - Open Fast Espionage - # 1 I hope that some more people can try to invite players.

26. August 2009, 20:56:31
Nothingness 
Subiectul: upcoming tourney!
also id advise posting this up coming tourney on the tourney message board! WE can certainly get a few more players if it up there as well!

26. August 2009, 20:49:56
Nothingness 
we need to get Tony into this upcoming tourney! Don't you think!?

25. August 2009, 15:16:32
Nothingness 
were going to be in a lot of games in this one from what i can see. we will have to play 4players at once. Each section is very large! i prefer single elimination.

25. August 2009, 11:03:32
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: one game for each two players
Dark Prince: I prefer 1 game against each opponent in the section by far.

25. August 2009, 09:45:40
Dark Prince 
Subiectul: Re: one game for each two players
Do most players prefer that over the 2-game matches against each opponent?

25. August 2009, 08:50:27
Pedro Martínez 
Subiectul: Re: one game for each two players
Dark Prince: Yes. It is a bad translation. It should read "Round-robin, one game against each opponent."

25. August 2009, 08:40:56
Dark Prince 
Subiectul: one game for each two players
For the tournament, does the above mean that we play one game against each opponent in the section?

25. August 2009, 07:10:14
Nothingness 
Subiectul: jonaron
i contacted him to see if he wants in. we will have to wait for a reply.

25. August 2009, 02:12:12
Pedro Martínez 
Subiectul: Re: Are the tournament games rated?
Dark Prince: That is correct.

25. August 2009, 01:54:40
Dark Prince 
Subiectul: Are the tournament games rated?
"Unrated games (no BKR will be affected by this tournament): no"
This appears to indicate that the tournament games will be rated.

24. August 2009, 21:16:05
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Sept 1 Tournament
Looks like a good field.

I will be playing as well.

Someone should drop jonaron an email. :)

16. August 2009, 21:05:38
lukulus 
I think, tournament can start immediately when maximum limit of players is signed for tournament. In this case there isnt any maximum limit, so tournament will start 1.9.

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