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28. Noiembrie 2009, 21:25:47
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
SL-Mark: inviting them is not so much effort. Since there is a prize I expect a lot of interest, and players approaching me. All of you can point players out to me. I can then invite them, and all beginner's I come accross. I'm prepared to do the extra work involved.

 

I don't think you can exclude participants already signed up.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 20:36:41
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
Chaos: That is true. I have just been playing in a fast espionage team tournament, invited by the captain to join his team. As I had no fast espionage rating at the time, I was paired with all the other low rated players. 12/12 easy wins :)

But I do agree with Eric as well, it would be much easier and less work if the entry was open. Is it possible to eject people just before the tournament start if they have not met the criteria?

As to when, well firstly need to find someone, then teach them so that they will at least beat your and Eric's student End January, beginning February?

28. Noiembrie 2009, 18:17:49
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
happy hermit: That was my first thought, but  a rating below1500 or unrated still means they could have a very high rating in a different variant. They may just never have played fast espionage.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 18:06:46
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Starting date beginner's tournament
Chaos:

You can make it, I believe, an open tournament with a rating cap. 1500 seems a reasonable cap and I would guess you would get more participants that way.

I will look for a player right away.

28. Noiembrie 2009, 17:44:40
Chaos 
Subiectul: Starting date beginner's tournament
I want to create the beginner's tournament. I will award a prize for the winner. When shall I have it started? I will make it an invitation only tournament otherwise strong players might enter. I'm sure no Leaguer would do this, but others might.

 

Please let me know how much time you think you need to find a good pupil, and do let them know they can win a year rook's membership!

27. Noiembrie 2009, 23:17:28
Chaos 
Subiectul: pupil
I've found a pupil who wants to go for it :)

Have you all been looking hard to find a new talent?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:19:23
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Mentoring
Chaos:

It's Tony Gardner . . . Mark had it.

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:19:00
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: Mentoring
SL-Mark:

I think some of the Dark Chess players will do well here. :)

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:12:50
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Mentoring
SL-Mark: Players who've already played Sabotage at IYT are not allowed ofcourse.

Well, Eric, I give up, who is our mystery player?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:10:01
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Mentoring
Modificat de SL-Mark (26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:11:11)
Nothingness: Thank you, though it was really a Chaos idea.
I think some method should be applied in assigning the mentors, otherwise Eric will go for those at the top of the Dark Chess ratings, all of whom have not played espionage (here)! :)

edit = spelling correction!

26. Noiembrie 2009, 01:04:10
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos: I was thinking it was an anagram of his name, rather than a abbreviation! Tony G = tgcon?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 00:58:27
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos:

Hall of Fame -er :)

26. Noiembrie 2009, 00:53:05
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
happy hermit: HoFer?

26. Noiembrie 2009, 00:48:51
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
SL-Mark:

Can you guess which Sab League HoFer pioneer54 is? :)

26. Noiembrie 2009, 00:34:51
Nothingness 
Subiectul: Mentoring
will there be a list of trainers... that would be nice to list the trainers and assign a mentor to each newbie that registers. So I think that all the current SL members should Mentor a newbie. In my new job I have a Mentor who helps me through any problems that may occur or questions that i may have. That is a great idea Mark.

25. Noiembrie 2009, 23:49:39
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
happy hermit: That would be a very good choice. Well discovered!
Perhaps I could interest vin in becoming my pupil :)

25. Noiembrie 2009, 23:37:27
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
SL-Mark:

I must go and find a worthy pupil.

Perhaps I can interest pioneer54. :)

25. Noiembrie 2009, 23:24:00
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos: "I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!"

This is a very interesting idea! Assuming the trainers are reasonably competitive, you are pitting the trainers (through their pupils) against each other too.

25. Noiembrie 2009, 23:18:49
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: :)
lukulus: But even Thursday last year July, it was raining that day too, only it was light rain

25. Noiembrie 2009, 12:42:20
Chaos 
Subiectul: beginner's tournament
When shall I start the have the beginner's tournament started? januari 15th? What variant shall we choose for them? They often start out playing  volcano variants.

 

Among the veteterans Fast espionage seems the most popular volcano variant. Maybe the tournament after next could be Fast? If I organise a Fast tournament for the beginner's before that, they can play along in our normal tournament playing fast.

 

I'm considering giving out a 1-year rook price for the winner of the beginner's tournament.

I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!

25. Noiembrie 2009, 11:02:38
lukulus 
Subiectul: Re: :)
SL-Mark: Turist is in July in London and there is lots of rain every day. He asked Londoner "Hey, Do you have summer in London?" And Londoner replied: "Yes, of course, we have. Last year was in Thursday..."

24. Noiembrie 2009, 22:30:28
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: :)
Resher: I'll pack them away for the next few days then. Have a great time!
P.S. What do you call six weeks of rain in Scotland?
Summer!

24. Noiembrie 2009, 22:18:33
Resher 
Subiectul: Re: :)
SL-Mark: I hope they don't all do that - I'm off to Edinburgh for a few days tomorrow and although it's a lovely place, I don't think bagpipes would add much to my enjoyment

24. Noiembrie 2009, 22:09:41
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: :)
A Scotsman visited New York for his annual holiday and stayed at a large hotel. However, he didnae feel that the natives were friendly. "At 4 o'clock every morning," he told a friend, "they hammered on my bedroom door, one the walls, even on the floor and ceiling. Heck, sometimes they hammered so loud I could hardly hear myself playing the bagpipes."

24. Noiembrie 2009, 00:39:38
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Naughty Mark
Chaos: Nice One!
Guess who joined the 28 hr mini rush ladder?
Careful you don't get kicked off the site!

Interesting is the difference between Patrick and Fencer. On BK, under Links, there is a long list of other game sites including IYT!!! (they do look like referral links though, so Fencer might receive a few cents if you click them)

24. Noiembrie 2009, 00:26:03
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: Naughty Mark
SL-Mark: I already directed people to BK in my biographical information at IYT, and now you told me this I recommend BK also in the ratings for all the sabotage games on my profile at IYT

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:50:05
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Naughty Mark
On IYT, a month or so ago, I changed my display name from "SL-Mark" to "SL-Mark playing on http://brainking.com"
Our good friend Patrick has now changed my display name to my login name and I can no longer change my display name!

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:30:58
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
Modificat de Chaos (23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:34:58)
SL-Mark: ah, this was the game we agreed to place our headquarters on the front line, right?  So I first have to get around those to get to the mines!

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:21:00
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: a1, d1, e1, g1, j1

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:18:52
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: If all is lost, attack blind
Celticjim: I was just teasing Jim
You are right about how the instincts improve over time, just that I lack the same confidence to attack blind as you do.
Mmmm, is that a weakness I have exposed?

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:17:19
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: So you won't tell me the location of your mines?

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:15:16
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: No no no! Go for victory not the mines. Attack the army every time

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:11:47
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Sorry
aaru: Oops, sorry aaru. Just re-readiing my previous message to Chaos, I didn't mean to imply that you are not a top player too!
I do find it amazing that you have managed to get 100 mines since the achievements started. Congrats

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:11:29
Celticjim 
Subiectul: Re: If all is lost, attack blind
SL-Mark:
It's amazing how often our instincts are right with this game,I think so anyway.I rarely lose a piece throwing it into an unknown opponents...........
point in question,just now I pushed 2 recons up onto an opponents line revealing 4 unknowns and 3 of the 4 were exactly what I thought(2 recons and a 4).I had no clue on the 4th but the other 3 pieces gave clues with the movement.no pieces were taken beforehand ...that's my story and I'm stickin to it

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:10:06
Chaos 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: You mean I should go for mines instead of victory? Ok, if you tell me your mines I promise I'll change my strategy in our game.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 23:01:59
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: If all is lost attack the mines.
No mines, shame, but then you are only exhibiting the traits of a top player!

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:58:38
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: If all is lost, attack blind
Celticjim: Bah humbug
How many did you get wrong to achieve that score?

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:53:58
Celticjim 
Subiectul: Re:
aaru: nice one aaru
now I'm curious what you did to get to be the MASTER

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:44:18
Chaos 
Subiectul: espionage master!
aaru: Indeed you're the one and only espionage master so far! I find it hard to get the mines. If I'm in a game about to capture them my oppnent usually resigns.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:41:19
aaru 
Subiectul: Re:

23. Noiembrie 2009, 22:07:58
Celticjim 
oooh
I'm the 11th Lord of Midnight

espionage achievement-capture 100 unseen enemy pieces

1. [Celticjim, Ireland,23. November 2009, 20:56:33
2. [happy hermit, United States,1. November 2009, 13:47:31
3. [chessik, Czech Republic,24. October 2009, 14:29:26
4. [Chaos, Netherlands,12. October 2009, 09:44:09
5. [AlterMann, Germany, 14. September 2009, 22:51:57
6. [SentineL, United Kingdom, 6. September 2009, 21:21:37
7. [aaru, Poland,21. August 2009, 07:01:24
8. [Borowitz, France,16. July 2009, 23:14:12
9. [FrancescoLR, United States,15. July 2009, 06:37:49
10. [Magrata, Czech Republic,13 July 2009, 12:20:05
11. [ardi, Slovakia,7. July 2009, 07:45:48

23. Noiembrie 2009, 01:23:38
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos: Great, I'll join in too

23. Noiembrie 2009, 01:05:17
Celticjim 
Yvet,the poll ends after something like 30 days go by without a vote ....
looks so far like the majority prefer a small fast and quick tourny.Sounds good ta me
I sometimes wonder why there aren't so many more new players picking this game up.Maybe we should think about offering incentives as Nothingness touched on before with the memberships.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 00:58:51
Nothingness 
who win the original rookie tourney?

23. Noiembrie 2009, 00:45:22
happy hermit 
Subiectul: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos:

Brilliant.

23. Noiembrie 2009, 00:21:51
Chaos 
Subiectul: beginner's tournament
What do all you think of a beginners/newbee tournament to get fresh blood into the League?

I would be willing to set it up if I get a litlle help scouting.

22. Noiembrie 2009, 23:15:01
Nothingness 
a 4 player variant i think would be great... I think we should gather some ideas and submit it to powers that be!

22. Noiembrie 2009, 23:07:46
Chaos 
Subiectul: Espionage variants
Nothingness: would BK consider implementing a 4 player variant? In Stratego such variant exists. I would love that. And ofcourse there's the corner variant already existing at IYT, we could ask for that one here. It requires quite a different strategy.

 

As for playing volcano tournaments, if there are just a few players who want to be in those it's no use. Maybe the league has to grow first? I'm ok with a fast (volcano) tournament after the next, but I don't think I'll enter.

22. Noiembrie 2009, 17:20:55
Nothingness 
Subiectul: polls
How often will we use a poll? We obviously cannot use a poll every time we cannot decide on choosing a game type. This process will become very narrow minded and become extremely Boring after awhile. We cannot be a league of only two variants. Regardless of our feelings of certain variants. If we expect to improve our games we must become strong in all aspects of our game. It sis obvious that 90% of us prefer the open ( non-volcano) variants, but we cannot neglect the volcano versions either. the other option is asking for a new variant. Which I feel that could be implemented very quickly on this site. A variant that we all can agree upon.

22. Noiembrie 2009, 17:20:24
SL-Bosse 
Subiectul: Poll 2

And a poll for the timelimits:


http://www.yourfreepoll.com/wovaldtnsr.html


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