Stevie: the question is..... is it worth trying again??

If it had worked for me...id have been at the top :o(

I notice I wasnt the only one to see the oportunity in the last round of the first run :o(

I risked it and dropped 22 places, Zetes risked but more and gained around 13 places...
great move mate :oD

BIG BAD WOLF: Dang..........you should be an instructor! Excellant examples and now I will have no excuse if I loose! Thanks!!!!!!!

I have not looked at the pond yet so as not to "help" too much, but I will give a general example of what I normally do when 3 players are left in a pond.

Example #1:
Player 1: 5000 points left
Player 2: 4600 points left
Player 3: 1000 points left

If I was player 3, I normally will bet everything I have left. I mean for Player 3, he will most likey be in 3rd place - and if by some-how one of the top 2 bid below my total, I would then move up to 2nd place overall.

Now if I was player 2, this is where it gets interested - since less then 500 seperates player 1 & 2, the 500 point bonus may be the key. I would take a guess that player 1 would bid the min to stay alive - 1,001 in this case - so as player 2, I would probable play 1,100 - which if that gives me the 500 point bonus, would leave me 1 point ahead.

If I was player #1, I would again assume that player #2 will at least play the min to stay alive - 1,001. And since I'm already ahead by 400, I would bid around 1,400 - hopefully enough to keep the bonus away from the other player.

With less then 500 points between the 1st & 2nd place - it can be VERY tricky!

Example #2

Player #1: 5,000
Player #2: 4,000
Player #3: 3,000

As player #3, the same as before - I would bet 3,000. As player #2, it is almost impossible to win. When more then 500 points are between the 2, player #1 can just bid the min to stay alive (3,001) and even if player #2 gets the 500 bonus - it still does not matter. The only way that player #1 can lose is if both Player #2 and Player #3 bid well below the total that player #3 has.

Pedro Martínez: Thanks! I will give you half my winnings!!

Zorro: Well, you definitely can win this pond. Your bet now should not be too low since you would fall in the pond but also not too high because you are about 800 points behind the leader and you need to gather these points somewhere. So, your goal in the upcoming round should be to bet as low as possible in order to bet at least 1300 points less than the leader. The other way to win is to let the leader fall in the pond, of course (that's the easier one, LOL).

Please dont tell me specifics! Just stradegy

Pond of Faith, This is the longest I have ever been in and have no idea what strategy to use!

what pond, Zorro?

Hey..........I don't want to cheat but what tactic do you use if there is three people left you all three have close to the same number?

when you loose all your points your out right?

Is there any way to beat the guy that is in first place?

if answering is cheating then just tell me that?

There is no need to move the last piece off, the other player should resign. I consider it a little inconsiderate to continue playing. What is the point?

I think the last round makes sense. as Thad said its never enevitable.

It's like saying there no need to remove the last piece off in backgammon when you opponent has 15 left. It still has to be done

grenv: Always?

If the rule said that a player has to get such an advantage to win, then he couldn't lose.

It is possible for a player with K-Q against K to lose the Queen, or even time out and lose! In reality the lone king always resigns.

Victory is never inevitable. A player could be way out front, but for whatever reason, stupidity, error, carelessness, etc., bid zero.

There are many cases where the winner is determined many rounds before the end. there are mathematical formulas that can easily work out when this is the case.

I would suggest that the winner be crowned as soon as the victory is inevitable.

I suppose you could mistype or something ?

furbster: then why bother with the final round???

rod03801: no, its as obvious as it seems :o)

I have made it to the final round of a pond for the first time..

I'm sure there is something I'm not seeing, but doesn't the person with the most points in that round automatically win?? I mean, all they have to do is bid one more than what their opponent has?

I'm sure this is really stupid, and there is probably something obvious I'm not seeing.

Czuch Chuckers: thanks

Stevie: I will continue this at a more appropriate board now.... sorry!

Stevie: I was just curious if it was a whole site thing going on to not use Globs as regular mods (as that was an idea I put forth many months ago) Plus I was curious if all mods of public boards were given that honour by Fencer or if it was only the 'main' mod and that the other mods were the decision of that main mod?

I wasnt trying to stir, but now that I see your defensivness on the subject, I assume that something between you and BBW must be going on?

Czuch Chuckers: I dont see the need for this conversation unless you are trying to stir things

Stevie: Have all Globs been removed from moderators of public boards? Or as main moderator, you have access to add/remove mods at your own discretion?

Bernice : YEAAAA :D I enjoy it very much :D

Maxxina has finally gotten his easter hamper prize :)

All prizes given in Ponds have now been received, thank god the post is reliable...I hope you all enjoy your given prizes :)

prize tourney...start on August 1...a small prize for the winner for Fathers Day....

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=256&trnst=0

redsales: I didn't say I agree with someone not allowing me into their club because of some quality about myself I have little choice in or don't want to change. I said a person should have the right to set up those things for their tournament and exclude me. It's their tournament, it should be their choice. So they purposely make it so I can't play, that might not be fair to me, but thems the breaks. In a world of plenty I can go somewhere else. As rod says, there's lots of Ponds here. In a world of scarcity such discrimination can hurt and I may or may not take action against it. Aren't those the major causes of peace, war, strife, and famine? Almost seems like these games sites/ discussion boards are a little microcosm of the world as it is. When California launches its attack against Czech Republic because of the ongoing pattern of the discriminatory use of prize funded tournaments here, then I might worry about it. In the meantime, let them have their club. It's one of the good features of the site. I'm surprised it bothers you as it's the very same thing as if all the members of a fellowship that you are a member of that doesn't have open enrollment decides to have a prize tournament. I wouldn't be able to play in it, nor would anyone that wanted to that the Big Boss of the fellowship wouldn't let join his fellowship.

Czuch Chuckers: he doesnt need to be, as he is a Glob :o)

When/Why were you removed as a moderator of this board?

have fun with the tournies!!

There are plenty of other ponds, tournaments etc., to sign up for. Why be bothered by it?
People who create ponds/tournaments should be able to set whatever parameters that they want.
It's only a game site! It's not deciding who is going to get subsidized housing or something like that!
I say, lighten up.

UMMMMMM....read the "SERVER NEWS"

Luisifers (sp) conditions....ask him not Fencer?....same applies here LOL(OL

Walter Montego: Of course discrimination exists on this site as it does everywhere else in the world. But I contend that discrimination based on rating is an entirely different ball of wax than segregation based on nationality. If you equate these two, i'm afraid nothing else I say will be of any value to you. So the Dark Chess tournament, had you been excluded on basis of being American, it would've been the same?

<Simple enough, so where's the problem?>
Oversimplification is the problem, and I do not see all types of dicrimination as ethically equal, even though they are functionally equal.

redsales: Why have a problem with it? You're in a Dark Chess tournament right now that excluded me from playing just because I had too high of a rating. Ponds doesn't have a rating system, so that's one type of segregation that doesn't apply to it. All the others are still available. I like how Thad summed it up, though I don't see why Fencer couldn't have a tournament just for his friends or other invitees too. If it's my tournament, I should be able to have in it who I want to and will have an invitational. If I don't care, or if I want anybody that's interested in playing, I have an open. Simple enough, so where's the problem?

BIG BAD WOLF: that proves my point exactly. So I guess I'm not the only one who has a problem with this? Aux pays des aveugles, les borgnes sont rois!

If Fencer set up a tournament for just one group of players, then I might have an issue with it. But if a member wants to hold a tourney for certain other members, I don't see the harm. I could hold a prize tourney just for my friends here, so why not one for just the sexy redheadded ladies, or just the guys who like the same football team I do, players under 6 feet tall (sorry, I don't know the metric equivallent) or whatever.

Vikings: I have gone and changed the description, but it did say from the start ladies only :), and thanks for understanding :)

Vikings:
cross dressers are only allowed if they are female and dress as males ...not the other way round...
and BBW...CAVE = segregation...thanks :)

done, just a sugestion, in the description, you could announce that no men are allowed since you have invited us in previous games titled ladies only

Well you do know redsales you are in a men's only fellowship called the cave - is that segregation?

.... yea I know, getting off topic from Ponds now...

Maybe I'm a cross dresser

redsales:
I could have said nothing and just deleted them fron the pond...I thought i was doing the right thing and asking them to remove themselves voluntarily or I will do it the day before and keep checking...I am not segregating Red and you are just nitpicking.LOLOL
If you were a woman you would be welcome LOLOL...what happens when Fathers day comes around...???? would you be interested in that...I will set it up now for next September if you wish...:(

the thing is, anyone of any race or gender can obtain a knight or above membership. Calling different membership levels segregation is a bit of a misnomer.

It's always been like that - heck, Ponds are only for knights and above, and pawns are not allowed.

well, i guess it's all about segregation here now! am i the only one that has a problem with this?

redsales:
awwwwww *pout* i ran an easter pond...next holiday is mothers day....actually for aussies and kiwis the next holiday is anzac day...but I wouldnt get enough players....I have already run one lady's only...and had no responses, but then I didnt check it out before it started either LOL...this is a prize tourney and there fore I will be checking it closely

***EDIT*** oh and if a man slips through and wins it...NO PRIZE