maybe I didn't explain it very good, the bonus points only go to one player per round, the x, x-3,x-6 is the scoring at the end but you wou would then add their bonus, and the edge for being in first - third is that there is a much less drop than say 10th place which might be something like x-100

I think that people are fine betting anyway they like, that is the rules of the game.
What I'd like to see is a ratings system that is similar to the rating system that nascar has, 5 bonus points for leading a round, 1 st place x points second place x-3 points third place x-6 points, 4th place x-10 points, 5th place x-15 points and so on

Czuch Chuckers: you mean that a consistant bet of 108 isn't a good strategy?

they are with the rules for the regular run but highlighted in red

take away 1 and 2 since they are not established and it looks pretty good

ClayNashvilleTn: let them play that way, they are simply pawns to be used in the later rounds, and actually boost your ratings.You will find that the top winners never go for the bonus in the early rounds and for the most part have the highest ratings

take away the top 2 who are not established and look at the next 4 names, pretty accurate as far as top players, you will find our ratings fluxuate as we go for winsbut overall usually near the top, or in this case all four have been rated number one, as a matter of fact if you took the total time these four players have been rated number one compared to all others on the list, you would find that they have been number one about 95% of the time

actually it's using a different criteria, and if you took out everyone that isn't established, you would have the top players at the top. by the way basplund is #2 on the provisional rating list,but you are missing a name

Thad: I think I understand, It's oops, not opps

Thad: I think you read #7 wrong, I said 3 or 4 games, not 3 or 4 players

thoughts on the recent discussion
1. Pedro does not get his bids from Mr.Trice! for sure
2. Mr. Trice did claim to be able to win any pond.
3. Mr Trice also left himself an out stating that the only reason that he wouldn't win is if people "collaberated" against him.
4. Mr. Trices deffinition of collaberation, " anytime he doesn't win".

5. I have at times, successfully, used 5 different formulas.
6. no formula will be fullproof because, a. the dynamics of the game always change. b. most people don't use formulas but strategies and therefore bids are random.
7. Playing to win vs. playing for ratings, you might as well play for ratings because there are a few players here that put togather 3 or 4 wins and knock everyones butt down. and those are the players that always end up on top

I use formulas, but I'd never claim to be able to win them all, and I change the formula occasionally

yes, I received a "you fell in the pond" message

right below the winners link click on (remove from favorite boards) and then do not play it anymore.
But I'd suggest playing again and pay close attention to the bids of a couple of higher rated players, you could double their last bid each turn and stay in the game for quite some time and learn a lot

Pedro Martínez: actually, I don't think that it will drop that much, you are finishing high enough in enough ponds that your scores should rebound quickly, unless those ponds all finish at the same time

2008

ok new pool. When will the 50 win pond start?

My guess is sept,17th

Hey Pedro, you have 14 hours to win 2 more ponds if you want to beat me to 50 wins! woo hoo

why not save your "you fell in the pond" messages until the pond is finished

BIG BAD WOLF: I don't think that is a good idea since we can see what everybodies bid already, and I don't beleive in mulligans even though I would probably benifit

BIG BAD WOLF: the list are not organized by rating, at least not in dark since no games have been finished yet and everyone has an equal rating

why? was he the one that thought people were cheating?

now if only 7 more people would learn that, we could start the 10 wins pond

It is fun to watch certain players change their strategy

I don't like being at the top of the board until there are only about 5-6 people left, I much prefer being somewhere in the middle until then.
and the bidding has been changing since befor the introductions of ratings, thats the dynamics of this game that you constently have to re-think your moves

BKR Points left Last move
1 Maxxina 2671 9680 3999
2 Vikings 2447 9119 3718
3 Pedro Martínez 2499 8886 3645

as long as we are getting group help, what do we do here

he he he,

just make sure you acknowledge what you are going to do on this board so I can help you

Sorry BBW, but it is obviously more important for me to get 2nd place than it is for you to win the pond,

shouldn't our rating be by our names on this board?

another question, Does the ratings change with each round completed, or does it change only when the pond is finished?

Pedro Martínez: you do better on your own

Now I see it, thanks

Fencer, thanks for the upgrades, will there be a link to the winners page somewhere besides in your previous message?

BIG BAD WOLF: there's something wrong with the points left history, I had one game that showed that I had 1 point last round, received the bonus and ended up with over 800 points

150 finished games
1st 28,2nd 17, 3rd 20, 4th 16, 5th 13
total top 5 finishes 94, 63%
special note last 50 games placing 10th or worse 2, first 100 games finishing 10th or worse 38

you said it yourself, haven't won any, in fact the three people that have been going for the bonus in that game have won a grand total of 1 game between them

Like I said, I'm not going to complain.

when someone bids 1000 or more in the first 3 rounds to get the bonus, they don't gain to much, but if it makes anyone feel beter, please, go ahead, I sure won't complain

Lap top, bussiness writeoff

play it just the way you have for 2 more rounds and then worry about the bonus,It's going to be tough to win since you need to make up 1000 points, unless Rose beats herself

bid all your points next round so that I can pass you, lol

let them, it only helps you toward the end

Pedro Martínez: just kidding, well done

Pedro Martínez:

well there is 1 less headache, now I have to play Pedro differently

absolutely

I put numbers on a deck of cards, shuffeled them and tossed them up into the air and shot a gun into them, the one I his has my bid

thats the one Pedro, I will call that one headache bait

ScarletRose:I think that this particular group knows each others tactics pretty well, heck, BBW tells us his strategy all the time, but this is the first time that all 4 have been in this position without any another players. I will tell you what I will bid, NOT!

I've got the same problem in another game with Pedro