Walter Montego: Actually that's a great idea. In fact why not be able to set all the rounds, with the option of changing them any time.

BIG BAD WOLF: You know, it'd be nice if one could bid more than one round in advance. This would certainly give you a sporting chance when you have to be on vacation or when an emergency happens. Say eight days or four rounds which ever takes the most days on the calendar?

Pbarb2: Yea, like Czuch said - if you know you are going to be gone for a few turns in a pond, you can bid a higher amount of points (which will be auto-bid for you any rounds that you don't enter anything for) - which may keep you in the ponds until you get back - but the down side is you lose a lot of points so. (So if you think a good bid for the current round will be 100, but the next round after that may be 200 but you will not be around - you can bid 250-300 that way you hope your auto-bids will keep you in the game for a little bit.)

Pbarb2: I think some people make extra high bids, then lett it auto-play before they are away..... sometimes you can stay in the game a bit longer than just not playing any moves for awhile.

Do you know anything about that?

what do you mean ?

Maxxina: Thanks.. I thought hrqis said he set something and his ponds were still going. A bid thing I thought it was. I know that is not a vacation thing. Do you know anything about that?
BARB

yeaa , no vacations for ponds pbarb . na vacations . Sorry

THere is no way to set a vacation for ponds. Am I right? In other words I lose over 20 ponds. Well I guess thats better than 90 I once had. LOL I am going down in them anyway for some reason.

Bry: Thnx Bry... I think you are right...

Scooter: i think it bets everything they have then.

What happens if a player skips a turn (is not able to make a bet) and the points that he has left over isn't as much as he bet last round? Is there a default action for this?

22 Hours left to join,all are welcome.

Mike.:o)

Pedro Martínez: dang, I missed it by 4 BKR points

Vikings: got to change my prediction, in 10 days aissi will become #1, arpa #2.

So it's vice versa...:)

3rd out of 249 players, BKR change +93. I was hoping for a little better, but that is not such a bad place to end up (2518) considering in this last week I finished last, 2nd to last twice, and 3rd to last. I thought I would end up around 2300

grenv: but even so, 250-odd players.

it just seems such a waste of time over the last year or so really trying hard to stay as long as possible, especially when my first bet was over 1000.

Bry: But most of the players you beat are unrated or rated a long way below you.

Pond: The very first run

The pond is finished. Your final position is 13 out of 249 players.

Your BKR change: old BKR = 2441, new BKR = 2499 (+58)


58+ BKR for finishing above 250+ players, and only below 12 is Garbage.

Maxxina: Yea, I'm sure there are a few that are a little off.

Like Vikings - if you look at his BKR for the past 2 days, you will find out that he most likely gained 92 BKR from the first pond, not actually lose BKR.

http://brainking.com/en/BKRGraph?df=1&mf=8&yf=2005&dt=3&mt=8&yt=2005&submit=Submit&u=264&tp=1000

BBW - i just lost 29 points . Not 59 :] another pond finish in time and there i lost that another point

5 biggest gainers:

24 blizz . . . 393
49 Liquid . . . 417
14 volant . . . 431
25 evajitka . . . 441
9 Antje . . . 508

And the 5 biggest losers:

199 Jigsaw . . . -729
199 Scooter . . . -582
199 cardinal . . . -524
199 oldhamgirl . . . -509
199 tonyh . . . -508

Ouch.. I suppose it would probably have helped had I played in even more games?? I went down 249.. hehe oh well.. just a game..

Pedro Martínez: I would suspect that Vikings probable went down in a different pond, then actually gained back on this pond to end up with a net -3.

(Since I actually took the "Old BKR" about 24 hours ago.)

OMG, Vikings was 3rd and lost 3 points!!! LOL

At least you were not the one that lost over 700 BKR!

Full List of ratings change: (NOTE: other ponds which were completed in the last day may "mess" up this chart a little.)

PLACE USER OLD BKR NEW BKR CHANGE
1 WhisperzQ 2127 . . . 2318 . . . 191
2 Walter Montego 1945 . . . 2212 . . . 267
3 Vikings 2518 . . . 2515 . . . -3
4 aissi 2605 . . . 2659 . . . 54
5 fra 2220 . . . 2350 . . . 130
6 BIG BAD WOLF 2543 . . . 2600 . . . 57
7 arpa 2603 . . . 2663 . . . 60
8 pawnme 2112 . . . 2276 . . . 164
9 Antje 1556 . . . 2064 . . . 508
10 PrettyBlueEyes unrated . . . unrated . . . x
11 Mely 2544 . . . 2588 . . . 44
12 andreas unrated . . . 2057 . . . x
13 Bry 2441 . . . 2499 . . . 58
14 volant 1555 . . . 1986 . . . 431
15 Londo 2400 . . . 2463 . . . 63
16 529 2026 . . . 2218 . . . 192
17 Flake 2303 . . . 2378 . . . 75
18 Mike UK 2424 . . . 2480 . . . 56
19 Windy 2113 . . . 2040 . . . -73
20 zockerdotcom 2336 . . . 2397 . . . 61
21 Hrqls 2481 . . . 2513 . . . 32
22 kitti 2050 . . . 2204 . . . 154
23 Daniel Snyder 2061 . . . 2205 . . . 144
24 blizz 1613 . . . 2006 . . . 393
25 evajitka 1399 . . . 1840 . . . 441
26 Venuse 1841 . . . 2072 . . . 231
27 lovelysharon unrated . . . 2009 . . . x
28 Brian1971 2207 . . . 2287 . . . 80
29 Molly 1873 . . . 2174 . . . 301
30 Blackadder Mr K unrated . . . unrated . . . x
31 ruby2shoes 1743 . . . 1986 . . . 243
32 Shaun unrated . . . 1992 . . . x
32 Jofaserimon 1789 . . . 2016 . . . 227
34 KATIKA 1539 . . . 1911 . . . 372
35 Erinity 2225 . . . 2273 . . . 48
36 Tuesday 1736 . . . 1964 . . . 228
37 Maxxina 2600 . . . 2541 . . . -59
38 CindySki unrated . . . unrated . . . x
39 txaggie 1468 . . . 1843 . . . 375
40 Pawnchucker unrated . . . unrated . . . x
40 Arctic Warrior 2315 . . . 2373 . . . 58
42 bwildman 1988 . . . 2115 . . . 127
43 zetes 1712 . . . 1933 . . . 221
44 Stardust unrated . . . 1953 . . . x
44 beaupol 2087 . . . 2164 . . . 77
46 SueQ 1812 . . . 1945 . . . 133
46 Hasurami unrated . . . unrated . . . x
48 eleonora 1508 . . . 1846 . . . 338
49 Liquid 1519 . . . 1936 . . . 417
50 Bluefin 2117 . . . 2256 . . . 139
50 Watson 1608 . . . 1931 . . . 323
52 xenia unrated . . . unrated . . . x
53 TaureanTracker unrated . . . unrated . . . x
54 Tina Maurencova 1926 . . . 2093 . . . 167
55 beach 1834 . . . 1977 . . . 143
56 Stevie 1932 . . . 2040 . . . 108
57 pgt 1920 . . . 2028 . . . 108
58 red kite unrated . . . unrated . . . x
59 Fencer 2139 . . . 2226 . . . 87
59 Jason 2503 . . . 2423 . . . -80
59 NOT a floosie 1793 . . . 1936 . . . 143
62 mumbles unrated . . . unrated . . . x
63 panda unrated . . . unrated . . . x
63 Nirvana 1304 . . . 1650 . . . 346
65 dexter 2538 . . . 2466 . . . -72
65 jryden unrated . . . unrated . . . x
67 Taliesin 1665 . . . 1881 . . . 216
68 angeliki unrated . . . unrated . . . x
69 rod03801 1774 . . . 1848 . . . 74
70 rabbitoid 2534 . . . 2413 . . . -121
70 MidnightMcMedic 1126 . . . 1496 . . . 370
70 Czuch Chuckers 2381 . . . 2295 . . . -86
70 Universal Eyes 1445 . . . 1782 . . . 337
70 agentura office unrated . . . unrated . . . x
70 Monica 2486 . . . 2342 . . . -144
76 Goonerg 2344 . . . 2229 . . . -115
76 BerniceC 2518 . . . 2408 . . . -110
76 Doris unrated . . . unrated . . . x
76 rebelyell 1588 . . . 1813 . . . 225
76 Jannssen 2687 . . . 2521 . . . -166
76 Nothingness 2267 . . . 2185 . . . -82
76 Gus unrated . . . unrated . . . x
83 munwest 1562 . . . 1774 . . . 212
83 Czechgirl 1316 . . . 1594 . . . 278
83 Bobes 1996 . . . 1994 . . . -2
86 Mach Machovic 2132 . . . 2073 . . . -59
87 lindaw4 1622 . . . 1785 . . . 163
88 Thad 2061 . . . 2014 . . . -47
88 fxdirect 1935 . . . 1811 . . . -124
88 RamblinMan unrated . . . unrated . . . x
88 Pedro Martínez 2545 . . . 2395 . . . -150
88 sarok 1558 . . . 1666 . . . 108
88 Gabby 2115 . . . 2089 . . . -26
94 bumble 1600 . . . 1772 . . . 172
94 Eriisa 1312 . . . 1557 . . . 245
94 Milioi 1339 . . . 1577 . . . 238
97 stromovous 1292 . . . 1533 . . . 241
98 Rose 2043 . . . 2042 . . . -1
98 Luisifer 2031 . . . 1971 . . . -60
98 furbster 2446 . . . 2271 . . . -175
98 Labbeda 1888 . . . 1878 . . . -10
102 RamblinMaam unrated . . . unrated . . . x
102 NAZARETSKY unrated . . . unrated . . . x
104 stod unrated . . . unrated . . . x
104 Borek unrated . . . 1759 . . . x
106 grenv 2343 . . . 2169 . . . -174
106 Jirik 1842 . . . 1758 . . . -84
108 Mishaq 1317 . . . 1511 . . . 194
108 Jules 1909 . . . 1859 . . . -50
108 Chessmaster1000 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
108 Sinay 1836 . . . 1809 . . . -27
108 PhatPlaya 1849 . . . 1819 . . . -30
108 MariaAnna 1995 . . . 1912 . . . -83
114 harley 2090 . . . 2015 . . . -75
114 Krecik 2127 . . . 1982 . . . -145
116 drgnrdr 2195 . . . 2025 . . . -170
116 cariad unrated . . . 1714 . . . x
116 Partica 1476 . . . 1710 . . . 234
116 myfanwy unrated . . . unrated . . . x
116 Cat 62 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
116 smelly socks unrated . . . unrated . . . x
116 paco unrated . . . unrated . . . x
123 Foxy Lady 1992 . . . 1894 . . . -98
123 OldDear unrated . . . unrated . . . x
125 Lawless unrated . . . unrated . . . x
126 Bad Bishop 1856 . . . 1698 . . . -158
127 nickchanger unrated . . . unrated . . . x
128 Goldarrows 1889 . . . 1794 . . . -95
129 slunecko unrated . . . unrated . . . x
130 goose15 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
131 Niki unrated . . . unrated . . . x
132 mafea unrated . . . unrated . . . x
133 piercedlbc unrated . . . unrated . . . x
134 KevSpa unrated . . . unrated . . . x
134 fanciann unrated . . . unrated . . . x
136 whatdidyousay unrated . . . unrated . . . x
137 gekrompen hoofd unrated . . . unrated . . . x
138 alesh unrated . . . unrated . . . x
139 Bratr 1892 . . . 1759 . . . -133
139 reza unrated . . . unrated . . . x
139 Cerise 1633 . . . 1650 . . . 17
142 Kevin unrated . . . unrated . . . x
142 MadMonkey 1741 . . . 1631 . . . -110
142 trepil unrated . . . unrated . . . x
142 WizardII 1775 . . . 1634 . . . -141
142 scousegit unrated . . . unrated . . . x
142 MagicDragon 1513 . . . 1546 . . . 33
142 Ebru 1781 . . . 1665 . . . -116
149 white unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 angelmouse unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 CaoZ unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 RAHVIN666 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 TheViper unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 neznalek unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 plaintiger 1781 . . . 1632 . . . -149
149 ocnibulva unrated . . . unrated . . . x
149 pattypoo 1825 . . . 1603 . . . -222
149 CindyInTN 1936 . . . 1747 . . . -189
149 Gror 1398 . . . 1430 . . . 32
149 SG1fan 1750 . . . 1485 . . . -265
149 NikNack 1700 . . . 1576 . . . -124
162 bene unrated . . . unrated . . . x
163 ScarletRose 2059 . . . 1810 . . . -249
164 Matarilevich 2700 . . . 2287 . . . -413
165 Alex unrated . . . unrated . . . x
166 Feathersword unrated . . . unrated . . . x
167 chessmec unrated . . . unrated . . . x
168 whikki 1473 . . . 1440 . . . -33
168 Nightstorm 1856 . . . 1647 . . . -209
168 Rex Nihilo unrated . . . unrated . . . x
171 SolidGold unrated . . . unrated . . . x
172 Caissus unrated . . . unrated . . . x
173 loggerhead unrated . . . unrated . . . x
174 frolind unrated . . . unrated . . . x
174 Peeky 1541 . . . 1538 . . . -3
176 Anatole unrated . . . unrated . . . x
177 mrbugs001 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
177 temo unrated . . . unrated . . . x
179 num1fire unrated . . . unrated . . . x
180 Summertop unrated . . . unrated . . . x
181 Cookie 1398 . . . 1345 . . . -53
181 maria unrated . . . unrated . . . x
181 rozi 1660 . . . 1539 . . . -121
184 Serendipity 1384 . . . 1504 . . . 120
185 Dolittle unrated . . . unrated . . . x
185 Egzot unrated . . . unrated . . . x
185 Andersp unrated . . . unrated . . . x
185 redsales 2255 . . . 1884 . . . -371
185 Oliveira 1300 . . . 1495 . . . 195
190 clean4today unrated . . . unrated . . . x
190 TexasToest 1814 . . . 1542 . . . -272
190 Dakota Spring unrated . . . unrated . . . x
190 HEATHER unrated . . . unrated . . . x
194 SunFire unrated . . . unrated . . . x
194 glena unrated . . . 1478 . . . x
196 CurrentRiver 2083 . . . 1698 . . . -385
196 Skyking 1835 . . . 1543 . . . -292
196 B Crow 1240 . . . 1179 . . . -61
199 faith 1425 . . . 1234 . . . -191
199 tonyh 2431 . . . 1923 . . . -508
199 MsDelete unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 TheBig O 2055 . . . 1616 . . . -439
199 JAGR 1664 . . . 1385 . . . -279
199 Martyc41265 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 cardinal 2336 . . . 1812 . . . -524
199 wekke unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Scooter 2416 . . . 1834 . . . -582
199 HoneyLo 1231 . . . 1088 . . . -143
199 goodfoods 1839 . . . 1377 . . . -462
199 youbet 1278 . . . 1120 . . . -158
199 diogenes 1546 . . . 1321 . . . -225
199 zdezve unrated . . . 1380 . . . x
199 spocko 1882 . . . 1494 . . . -388
199 lindaiscool unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 akes unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Cannibal unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Hannelore 1932 . . . 1534 . . . -398
199 Fiona 1738 . . . 1385 . . . -353
199 Crazy Judd 1029 . . . 946 . . . -83
199 The Leprachaun unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Mary Jo unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 American Girl unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Rimon unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 wiktor256 unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 DesertStarr unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Cole unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 NOMOEO unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 gasper unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Ripley 1457 . . . 1253 . . . -204
199 teenangel unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 amber spyglass unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Miro007 unrated . . . 1381 . . . x
199 SMART ALX 1772 . . . 1414 . . . -358
199 cctiger2000 1949 . . . 1545 . . . -404
199 oldhamgirl 2188 . . . 1679 . . . -509
199 Gester unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 rshenderovsky unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 Basic01 2073 . . . 1573 . . . -500
199 MASTERMIND 1759 . . . 1416 . . . -343
199 Amandakmg365 1818 . . . 1389 . . . -429
199 mcpeak1969 2171 . . . 1730 . . . -441
199 Jigsaw 2129 . . . 1400 . . . -729
199 Priscilla 1599 . . . 1368 . . . -231
199 Key McKinnis 1290 . . . 1131 . . . -159
199 Konrad 1555 . . . 1381 . . . -174
199 THE HIT MAN unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 jelly unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 tycho unrated . . . unrated . . . x
199 berusik unrated . . . unrated . . . x

Matarilevich: -413

Pedro Martínez: -102 ouchie

-172, that's not that bad...:)

Pedro Martínez (and BBW): Thanks ... I wonder if my next win will take as long? ... WQ

everything is fixed now there was no flag up there. it was weird... and there was no drop down selection either. i loogeed on and everything was changed coudnt even find message boards to post in the proper place.

Nothingness: Should be able to just click on the English flag up in the upper right of the page.

Nothingness: Go to Discussion Boards and select English from the drop-down menu. Click Change and voilà!!!

all my bvoards are now in french and i cannot turn it off or turn it back to english. HELP!

I guess my username needed to be closer to the end of the alphabet to have a chance in that one.

Link: http://brainking.com/en/Pond?p=0&g=1

Well I've made a copy of everyone who was in the first run BKR rating - so it will be interesting to compare them in 24 hours when the pond is at last - complete!

And congrats WhisperzQ - I held on for 6th place but started to play too carefully with about 20 to go which just left me too far behind....

Congrats to WhisperzQ on winning the Very First Run...

Hopefully I've got it right this time.

This table is compiled by ranking players on a percentage of games won basis. To be eligible players must have won at least 2 ponds.
The number of wins figures link to a list of the tournaments won and BKR ratings link to a graph of their history. Only completed ponds are included.

This list includes all 67 players with 2 or more wins. CAN ANYONE DELETE MY PREVIOUS POST PLEASE?

Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating


..1 ............22 ................8 ..........36.4%.......... 2424P...... ............ Mike UK
..2 ..............9 ................2 ..........22.2%.......... 2474P...... ............ cvopa
..3 ............33 ................7 ..........21.2%.......... 1999........ ............ basplund
..4 ..........449 ..............95 ..........21.2%.......... 2475........ ............ Pedro Martínez
..5 ............32 ................6 ..........18.8%.......... 2700........ ............ Matarilevich
..6 ............93 ..............17 ..........18.3%.......... 2446........ ............ furbster
..7 ..........418 ..............73 ..........17.5%.......... 2467........ ............ Vikings
..8 ............37 ................6 ..........16.2%.......... 2687........ ............ Jannssen
..9 ............31 ................5 ..........16.1%.......... 2361........ ............ Hanis
10 ............13 ................2 ..........15.4%.......... 2451P...... ............ El Arbiter
11 ............14 ................2 ..........14.3%.......... 1995P...... ............ MariaAnna
12 ..........304 ..............41 ..........13.5%.......... 2546........ ............ Maxxina
13 ............39 ................5 ..........12.8%.......... 2172........ ............ RadRx
14 ..........302 ..............38 ..........12.6%.......... 2543........ ............ BIG BAD WOLF
15 ..........111 ..............13 ..........11.7%.......... 2488........ ............ Andre Faria
16 ............37 ................4 ..........10.8%.......... 2031........ ............ Luisifer
17 ..........134 ..............14 ..........10.4%.......... 2534........ ............ rabbitoid
18 ............48 ................5 ..........10.4%.......... 2604........ ............ Morgan
19 ............88 ................9 ..........10.2%.......... 2221........ ............ Kata Liana
20 ............70 ................7 ..........10.0%.......... 2625........ ............ aissi
21 ............40 ................4 ..........10.0%.......... 2129........ ............ TIGER0005
22 ............51 ................5 ............9.8%.......... 2400........ ............ Londo
23 ............41 ................4 ............9.8%.......... 2336........ ............ zockerdotcom
24 ..........206 ..............20 ............9.7%.......... 2645........ ............ Monica
25 ..........109 ..............10 ............9.2%.......... 2357........ ............ Flake
26 ..........120 ..............11 ............9.2%.......... 2381........ ............ Czuch Chuckers
27 ............99 ................9 ............9.1%.......... 2225........ ............ Erinity
28 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%.......... 2333........ ............ SilentBob
29 ............22 ................2 ............9.1%.......... 2590P...... ............ Zach
30 ..........125 ..............11 ............8.8%.......... 2275........ ............ alexlee
31 ............35 ................3 ............8.6%.......... 2198........ ............ jitkasafa
32 ............35 ................3 ............8.6%.......... 1836........ ............ Sinay
33 ............36 ................3 ............8.3%.......... 2544........ ............ Mely
34 ............78 ................6 ............7.7%.......... 1888........ ............ Labbeda
35 ..........414 ..............29 ............7.0%.......... 2296........ ............ tonyh
36 ............29 ................2 ............6.9%.......... 2317........ ............ George Miller
37 ..........104 ................7 ............6.7%.......... 2343........ ............ grenv
38 ............62 ................4 ............6.5%.......... 2494........ ............ Backoff
39 ............31 ................2 ............6.5%.......... 1896........ ............ lukulus
40 ............64 ................4 ............6.3%.......... 1789........ ............ Jofaserimon
41 ............54 ................3 ............5.6%.......... 2503........ ............ Jason
42 ............37 ................2 ............5.4%.......... 2393........ ............ txindoki
43 ............93 ................5 ............5.4%.......... 2519........ ............ karij
44 ..........113 ................6 ............5.3%.......... 1932........ ............ Hannelore
45 ............38 ................2 ............5.3%.......... 1920........ ............ pgt
46 ..........192 ..............10 ............5.2%.......... 2269........ ............ Nothingness
47 ............96 ................5 ............5.2%.......... 2050........ ............ kitti
48 ............99 ................5 ............5.1%.......... 2601........ ............ arpa
49 ..........164 ................8 ............4.9%.......... 2162........ ............ Mach Machovic
50 ............82 ................4 ............4.9%.......... 2076........ ............ dmk
51 ............41 ................2 ............4.9%.......... 1932........ ............ Stevie
52 ............62 ................3 ............4.8%.......... 2059........ ............ ScarletRose
53 ............43 ................2 ............4.7%.......... 2370........ ............ Scooter
54 ..........108 ................5 ............4.6%.......... 2441........ ............ Bry
55 ............45 ................2 ............4.4%.......... 2090........ ............ harley
56 ..........248 ..............11 ............4.4%.......... 2519........ ............ Pbarb2
57 ............46 ................2 ............4.3%.......... 1744........ ............ hyncaba
58 ..........204 ................8 ............3.9%.......... 2079........ ............ abnznz
59 ............61 ................2 ............3.3%.......... 2123........ ............ drgnrdr
60 ............97 ................3 ............3.1%.......... 1399........ ............ macik
61 ..........102 ................3 ............2.9%.......... 2538........ ............ dexter
62 ............75 ................2 ............2.7%.......... 2061........ ............ Daniel Snyder
63 ..........221 ................5 ............2.3%.......... 2534........ ............ BerniceC
64 ..........138 ................3 ............2.2%.......... 2220........ ............ fra
65 ..........210 ................3 ............1.4%.......... 1869........ ............ Molly
66 ..........144 ................2 ............1.4%.......... 2055........ ............ kickbut
67 ..........438 ................5 ............1.1%.......... 2246........ ............ Arctic Warrior

Czuch Chuckers: scroll down for MikeUK's post from June 23.

I seriously doubt the ratings, as they are at the moment, tell us much. I mean compare the ratings of e.g. Arctic Warrior and basplund.

Pedro Martínez: - 300 for you is nothing! I just saw you at about 2100 a couple of weeks ago, didnt I?

Vikes... I dont think that wins a nd win percentage tells the whole story either. But if that is the standard, then I will start going for wins again!

name, number of games finished, number of wins, winning percentage

Pedro Martínez: Remind us again, what he showed? I think the rating should be somewhat accurate after many games. I think it can skew someone who has not played many ponds but has done well in the ones they have played.

Pedro Martínez: It is a good measure but does have some flaws

Czuch Chuckers: I expect -300.

Vikings: Do you think the ratings are really going to change so much from the firstb run results?

Czuch Chuckers: ratings are ether...they can hardly tell you the real skills of the players neither is the list of winners..the table that MikeUK showed us several time is the only relevant measure, I believe.

Maxxina: Just commit yourself to playing in dark ponds only, and you will have no worries anymore!

Maxxina: I doubt it would be removed anytime soon, Think of it as extra rewarding when you do win

It will be over day after tomarrow, so there should be a good shake up in ratings.