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computeropponen:
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low skill player knows nothing abt chinese chess. how much you know abt commonly used killing technique? " a know "no" player get killed before dawn, before he die he smile" a chinese old saying..
how much you know abt winning endgames? how much u know abt drawing endgames?
these are just basic skill.....

Lol ...It's very strange , Nobody , that great sensei does not play Go))) It seems like drenched chinese butterfly or i don't know like what)))
I may get you few lessons after 6 month )) at the board 19x19)))))) stay here :)

Many of the stratagems and tactics really are the same in XQ and traditional chess: fork, discovered check, closed mate(or half-closed in XQ) ,sacrifice, zugzwang (very rare in XQ) etc
Difference : Opposition 2 kings (impossible in XQ), pat = mat, perpetual check is not a draw in XQ , it's lost...

computeropponen: When I was in China to study Go for three months, I noticed Chinese chess is played on every streetcorner. It's really popular! I played a few games of XiangQi but it's hard to get better when there are so few real life opponents in my country.

Fwiffo: no, i don't play Go. i also play chess, but i am just a beginner with little experience in chess. All i know about chinese chess i use it to play chess. i think the fundamental principle to play the game is the same. there are some difference between, for example; the board size is not the same, chess is played on a 8x8 board with 8 pawns lined up in front, the most important piese is the Queen and the pawn, chinese chess with 9x10 board w only 5 pawns, the rook is the most important one.
As to Go, this is the most difficult game to play with a 19x19 board. i will compare thses 3 type of game as A B and C. A is the highest in the category.

computeropponen: I see. Btw, as you're from China, do you also play Go?

Fwiffo: it is not a comparison of orange & apple, it is a comparison of real & fade.

Fwiffo: well, it is very confusing, they should not be on the list among the established rating players.
they should be on the list among ALL the provisional rating players
Xiaogou should be the no.1 and Praesident the no.5 on the Provisional list with ALL inactive players

Praesident should be the no.1 on the Prov ALL active players list

computeropponen: That's why it is "Provisional".

Les look at the Provisional inactive players only list, the highest rated player is Xiaogou, his BKR is 2468 with (11/0/4) record:
2006 2 loses to gringo 1694
2005 2 loses to chicago Bulls 2287 BKR=4
11 won games;
1 vs BlitzMe 1886 BKR=45
2 vs Siddhim 1236
3 vs thm14291641
2 vs Spiron 1296
1 vs jian 1183
1 vs talon 1364
1 vs Cogitans 1259

his BKR should be the highest at 5 and the lowest at 46

the other one is Praesident , BKR=4 with a perfect record (4/0/0)
2011 1 win vs dogstar 1334
2010 3 won games:
1 win vs Sattha 1734
1 win vs LDV 1829 BKR=13
1 win vs Keith Graham 1456
all the 4 games he just beat up the weak opponents, his BKR should not be 4, the only one highest BKR he beat is with BKR=13.

SO THEY ARE OVERRATED.

Now i understand why they always accept to play the weak player and avoid to play the stronger one.

PaoloRus: That REALLY made me laugh. I hope it was meant as a micky take or you are as cracked as he is.

When you win in March, I thought that I will not survive. I cried and I have not eaten for six days. Headache tortured by me and my heart beat irregularly. I cursed the day when you came here, Mister. Since
then I played a lot with strong opponents, with weak opponents too.
I sometimes play, even I cann't learn anything. because i think we should give a chance for the weak players, even we don't talk to
them. And now i believe in myself like never before.
Please don't go from this site. Wait, when the number of my games will be 15 - 18 (now i am little brain pawn) . And i will challenge
you to a Great Fight. And if this fight will be fair - you will be beaten and destroyed... You should'nt be so arrogant, Nobody...
Remember : "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests."

you don't play the weak player, how the stronger than you player play you? you may ask this question

In the old day, it has a way to do it, you have to pay to play a game with the pro. and there are some kind of handicap game available depends on the level of you playing skill.
so you have to pay to learn, nothing is free. if they like you, they may pointed out what you went wrong after the game.

it remind me that some kind of players here, they always accept playing with weak players, and they always avoid to play the stronger one, what a shame

what happen after you improved yourself and you can beat your opponent, don't play him again, look for another stronger than you player for a game..

So the point is that Chinese Chess players don't talk to each other. I should never talk to weaker players, and stronger players will never talk to me…

the quality for the good players is, the strong desire to learn and improve himself.

when i was young, my teacher, a chinese chess champion, he told me that stay away from playing with weak player, you never learn anything from them, show respect to a good player better than you, play with them if you can, and talk to them to ask for advise.
never talk to a weak player, you would not learn a thing from them, and you don't know what they are talking abt.... .

I know, you are not very bad in TAKTIK, but real CHAMPION is the player, who have a best STRATEGY.
Strategic thinking can'nt be develope in blitz...
Have you a strategy in your games, my dear? Have you a strategy in your life?
My answer is NO,
I think You don't know what should you do: to play with me or another player in chinese chess or to talk abt your "losing interests", to be or not to be, to marriage or to die etc.
I thought you are great and terrible chinese grandmaster 111-years old, but you are real weak

To distinguish a GM from a low class/not so good player is, the ability to find the MOVE under Time Pressure.

computeropponen: They are NOT abusing anything. Period. Further posts by you on this subject, will be deleted.

rod03801: finally, you find the reason to ban me to post here. i have not said that this site is bad or wrong, I just said that some people are abusing the time control system.

I will leave your guys alone. i don't want to waste my time here. if you like just removed all my posts that will make you feel comfortable.

I think you should remove all the posts by 435152 too.

it's true pedestrian))) my father was a master by correspondance. if he lived 2003 , and wold play here, his bkr would be 2500...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Correspondence_Chess_Federation

computeropponen: No, you didn't "point out" the way the game "should" be played. You claimed that your way of playing the game is the only correct one, which is nothing but an arrogant display of disrespect towards other people.

computeropponen: If you continue going around and around about this, NO, you will not be continuing to post

My post is very constructive, only the inferior player sees it the different ways. This is the discussion borad for all. if you have your point just to show it, don't say this is the site for your kind of people only. I pointed out the ways the game should be played. I don't talk abt the gamesmanship only, your guys just playing with the time, not the game. it is unnescessary waste of time why not you just admit it.
your guys just abuse the time control system.
As I said before, this is a site belong to special category. Olympic also has special game.

computeropponen:
Your endless posts are not constructive. Sometimes people complain their opponents don’t move fast enough, sometimes they complain others in a tournament don’t move fast enough but I have never seen anyone complain that a game they are not involved in at all is not going fast enough. The answer if you are involved is always the same, choose a time control you are happy with, don’t accept time limits that you don’t like. If you are not involved as has been said many times already it is nothing to do with you. To expect players to play at a speed that suits you as a spectator is arrogance, it is their game they can do what they want.

It has been pointed out repeatedly that sites do exist that specialise in Chinese chess and provide real time play. Brainking is not that and endless moaning about it won’t change it. Brainking provides a product that the members want, if you want something else, it exists, go elsewhere.

If you feel a need to post on this site regularly despite not playing any games have a look at Son of Monse’s posts on the Tablut board as an example of constructive on topic posts about a game a member is interested and informed about.

You pick up this bad habits, you stand no chance to play on life game, of course this is your personal habits, and this is my personal opinion.
playing on line is a less serious form of playing the game. turnbased is the most less serious, it belong to a special category.

rod03801: habits?

there is an excellent resource XQ clubxiangqi.com - it's one of my favorite sites. If you were Chinese or Vietnamese, you would definitely know about this site. There, you're always online, no logins or logouts. What do you want from this site? Brainking is great because here there are many games that you are not found anywhere else on the Internet. Just play and have fun mr Nobody)))

computeropponen: You need to worry about your own habits, and not the habits of others. Frankly, the habits of others is none of your business.
It's been said over and over again. People choose the time constraints that they themselves want. There is no reason for them to take anyone else into consideration. The game is for them personally.

computeropponen: It seems you write more than you play - is there a reason for this? Don't you like to play?

I have played total 11 games here, 2 of the games are against Kamagai, one game started 14 March 2011 and ended 20 March 2011, in 6 days I made 51 moves.
Another game started 21 March 2011 and ended 30 March 2011, in 9 days 57 moves were made.

Think about that if I spent 7 days per move, that these two games will last more than one year to finish.

how I play the game? at the begining I spend less time, I only spend more time when the position became complicated, but this is not always the case. After I resolve the problem as I can, I will move fast again, usually one minute to 5 min per move. why I can move with less time? because everytime I ponder my moves, I jugde the position by my experience, I try to find the successive moves in series, it is not just one move ahead, it could be 3 to 5 moves ahead. so I don't need more time for the consecutive moves. my path of move is : move, move , move then stop to ponder again.
all deponds on the different situations ......

so. why need more time to make a move when you are logging in and out, and you waste your time for browing main page, viewing online players, and viewing games etc.. the time you spent doing such thing is enough for you to make a move...unless you are an inferior player, you don't see a move.

rod03801: This time, you are not accusing me to insult all the people doing such act: login and logout without making a move. thank you.

computeropponen:
I do the same with logging in and logging out. The reason is like followed:
Most time of the week I'm in work. My business is the IT and I am doing support too. From time to time I have a quick look to brainking, if I have some messages, or special games are going on. Nearly every day there is a lot of stress at work, but for important games like tournament games, games with high level player, I want a quiet time for doing my move, because I made too many mistakes in such games, while moving in work bacause I thought the moves are obvious, but they were big mistakes because the opponent made a trap. And after work I have still time consuming hobbies and playing corr. games at other sites, so it can take a few days, before I have some real quiet time for my important games and I have to set priorities between the games at different pages depending on the time left for each move.
For this reason I play correspondence games more often than live games, because I can stop thinking about a game and continueing the following day, which is not possible at over the board games.
I think that most people logging in and logging out have nearly the same reasons for doing this.

rod03801: I can not just play to myself, I have to play with an opponent. The point is all my opponents doing the same thing...login and logout making no move, just browing main page, viewing online players, viewing games etc....this is not the way the game should be played...
do you think something is wrong with the time control system? you cannot do anything about it...
i know what you will say" if you don't like it go to other place"

computeropponen: Then DON'T watch it. They CHOSE the time limit that THEY wanted for THEIR game. It should not matter to YOU at all what time limit they chose. You play the way you want, and let others play the way they want.

As I said before, why need 7 days per move??....this is waste of time...I have watched a game in progress between two top players, both players just login many times during the game but did not make a move. I tell you what they are doing, they are just browing main page, viewing online players, viewing game etc...then I looked at the time per move, it shows 7 days 8 hours left, later 5 days 15 hours left etc....at last they just logout without making any move at all...even it is a must move
they did such thing every time until the time is up to move, then they make their f?@$%&* move it is just a f#$%^& game not worth to watch.....

the previous post is addressed to alms, it is not to myself, sorry abt that.
I should have previewed it before I send it

computeropponen: another game in progress you are playing vs kleineme (black, 2124)....your position is better in my view ..I think he is overrated.

alms: you have played very well as a 1800 player, I think you are underrated.
you are playing against charimo1 (red,1947) the game you are winning...what happened about the move no.31.Ci8 ? your opponent offered you his cannon for free, you did not accept to kill him, I think you don't want to win this way, you want to beat him square.

computeropponen:
No big secret. I lost a lot of ongoing games on time in 2008 when I stopped playing here. Not okay I know, sorry.

why need 7 days per move?
one day is more than enough for a whole game
people just login and logout many times but not make a move....I wonder why doing this? for fun?
is this a ghost act?
play ghost ?

alms:
post dated 24 March 2011, 21:21:14 you asked me "Do you play with computer help?"
24 March 2011,21:46:38: "no, I hate the cheater" is my answer
25 March 2011, 02:53:33; I refused to play you at the time you were rated 1310

To day you are rated 1877, and 9 (11) on the rating list, it is incredible.....
based on the way you has played against me in the game in progress, you are playing like a different player...
what is the secret that you improved so fast in a very short time?

alms: Since you have improved to 18xx from 13xx, no matter you beat the weaker opponents to get points, I would like to play you a chinese chess game. I like the guy who can improve himself.
If I beat you then we may have another game, it is a two knights handicap game, did you ask me to play a two knights handicap before?
I am going to invite you

Now FromHell 2278(1) red vs svyel 2237(2) black. They are playing for who is the no.1 in chinese chess here.
I have played these two guys one game each. I played my A game to beat svyel and my B game to lost to FromHell
I have won 2-1 vs svyel on the other site, and I have won 1-0 vs FromHell on this site before..
personally I like FromHell they are very closely match.but I think svyel has slightly better chance to win.

alms: I play the chess game but I am just a beginner, in fact, I am a much better beginner than most of the beginner, the reason is I have chinese chess back ground that make me easier to pick it up. the other reason may be, the chinese chess is a 9x10 board compared with the chess 8x8 board. and I also found out that the development of chess is much slower than that in chinese chess, I would like to say that the chess is more like a positional game and the chinese chess is an open attacking game..... .the chess board ia packed with 8 pwans( more than the chinese chess w/ 5 pawns) lineed up in front, the rook in chess is not in action until the very late endgame...

may be, just may be my opinion that is reason why the chinese produced grandmaters and 4 woman world champions.in chess, and the european have none in chinese chess..

nice to talk to you

computeropponen:

Maybe you should prefer to promote Xiangqi in Europe. Doing some translations, comment mastergames in English. It's not easy to get informations about the game if you don't read Chinese...

Since 21 April 2011 no one has posted here, why? because nobody knows about chinses chess better and has nothing to say abt it....
European play chinese chess they have never produced a grandmaster, not even a world champion. the best european chinses chess player is not better than an average chinese player.
the chinese play the european chess, they produced some Gms and 4 women world champions so far.

there are handicap games regarding steps or moves: one move, two moves and 3 moves...
the one move handicap game is that the weak player always move first, it can be played online.

for the two moves handicap game, the weak player cannot make two moves consecutively online, the usual way is the stronger player move the king twice(up and down) i.e.1) Ke2 ...... 2) Ke1 ......

I have no idea how to set up the 3 moves handicap game online

3 moves almost = a knight

the step or move or may be a tempo is very important in chinese chess than in chess.

the chinese chess game is played on the more open battle field, not like the chess the battle field is pack, and the development is slower...that is why there is no such game like two knights handicap game to be played in chess....