Artful Dodger: As I'm sure you know, logic and reason are always welcomed by people who already agree with you, but not always by people who don't. If uber is laying claim to logic, then maybe it's time for me to confess that I'm actually a beautiful young woman posing as a grumpy old man.. oh, you shush now AD, don't you be spreading any stories now, you hear!!

Artful Dodger: Christians went out and did the killing. Why didn't they say "No Jesus/God says it's wrong"?

Artful Dodger:

> It was a political conflict and the US got involved because of world politics and NOT becasue of any religious belief.

That is exaclty what I am getting at. I see these right wing evangelicals come out and say that the US is a Christian nation.Yet as Christian they gladly put aside some of Christianity's central teachings in order to condone a war. The question then is? How can these people call themselves Christians and condone a war? Others (I can't remember if you yourself did) have posted in the past that the US is a nation founded on Christian principles. You yourself come out and defend Christianity on one hand, and war on the other. Then you say "the other side made us do it" or "Islam is evil". You make political excuses for compromising your faith.

Sarah Palin defends gun posession. Is that the Christian way? Or is she merely compromising her faith for political gain? I have seen too much of that among Christians. Let's say that we believe one thing, and do another. Did you or did you not support the war in Iraq? And if you did, how does that reconcile with your Christian teachings? Or did you compromise your teachings for the sake of politics? Did you protest against the war based on deeply held beliefs in peace and love for other human beings? Or did you say, "geez, they are so evil that war is OK"? How does that compare to Jesus dying on the cross and saying "forgive them father for they know not what they do"?

Radical Moslems are violent because the Koran "says that they should be". At least in their interpretation of it. But the NT says that people should be good to one another, they should avoid violence, they should treat others as they want to be treated themselves. So what excuse do Christians have for condoning war?

Artful Dodger: I'm sorry that one of my messages to uber didn't make it to the board. I already know he doesn't believe in God by the way he talks about it. I wanted to point out that if people speculated over which version of uber really matters or not, or even if it did matter that perhaps he really doesn't exist except in our imaginations, uber would know right away if any of that was true or not. We can't control what people say or believe about us, but we at least know who we really are and if we even exist or not.

Artful Dodger: Well, I post therefore I have nothing better to do. Except to come here and have ppl explain to me that pop rocks aren't really rocks, or that popcorn brain has nothing to do with corn. Did I say corn or.. yeah, I did say corn. (whew!)