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2. Августа 2012, 13:11:30
Mort 
Surely with the technology today regarding satellites, drones and other forms of spying and other 'intelligence' (I'm talking about actual intelligence, not the 'WMD' fiasco type) .....

... Those who can tell, can tell the difference between a nuclear power plant radiation signature and that of a weapon.

I'd hate to see (now that Syria is no longer really a threat) Iran being bombed and that radiation being released into the environment, causing disease, mutation and death (to men, women and children {including unborn.. which I thought were sacred to conservatives}) for years after.

... I don't think Iran has the ability quite frankly to clean up such a mess. We've seen during the later part of the 20th century thousands of children getting leukaemia through 'kids' playing with nuclear 'toys'. That's why we have an agreement not to test nukes above ground.

anyway.. with precision tech the ability to target and kill any launch system is much cleaner. Iran isn't exactly abundant with long range missiles.

2. Августа 2012, 20:20:26
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
(V): "... Those who can tell, can tell the difference between a nuclear power plant radiation signature and that of a weapon."


You are over simplifying how it's done. Energy signitures are only one tool Old fashioned sleuthing and connecting the dots has always been a part of gathering intelligence

By the way, here is me on my way to work... what intelligence are you able to gather from this surveillance photo?

2. Августа 2012, 20:36:40
Mort 
Субъект: Re:You are over simplifying how it's done
Iamon lyme: I said.. and I quote...

"Surely with the technology today regarding satellites, drones and other forms of spying and other 'intelligence' (I'm talking about actual intelligence, not the 'WMD' fiasco type) .....

... Those who can tell, can tell the difference between a nuclear power plant radiation signature and that of a weapon."

It is you who is over simplifying my statement, and not me over "how it's done".

2. Августа 2012, 21:59:48
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:You are over simplifying how it's done
(V): Yes, but you concluded with "radiation signiture" as though that was the only relevant tool.

You also said "I'm talking about actual intelligence, not the 'WMD' fiasco type".

You mean the "intelligence" that concluded because something wasn't there it was never there? There was plenty of evidence that those weapons had been there, and been there recently. That fact was conveniently ignored. The only mistake Bush made was to telegraph our intentions of taking looking around well in advance. Plenty of time for moving those weapons elsewhere. We actually caught up to a ship containing those weapons. It was reported but apparently underplayed, because no one seemed to think it was important. Maybe it's because by that time it was old news, and the main stream press felt the public was ready for the next new and exciting news story...

2. Августа 2012, 22:44:56
Mort 
Субъект: Re: There was plenty of evidence that those weapons had been there...
Iamon lyme: "had been there"..... Yes of course there was, The supply of the materials by the USA to Iraq for the purposes of using WMD's on Iranian troops is well documented. So is the reports from the weapons inspectors who said Saddam had gotten rid of them.

"That fact was conveniently ignored" by you.

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