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Discuss about checkers game or find new opponents. No insulting, baiting or flaming other players. Off topic posts are subject to deletion and if it persists the poster faces sanctions. This board is for checkers.


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17. Июля 2006, 22:58:56
DMatt 
Still missing the point.

I had been recovering from a broken back when I played Alex in 2004, already nearly 2 full years since I played any so called "serious checkers." If you really chatted with Alex, I find it HARD TO BELIEVE he would not mention this. And if you tell me such an injury would not impact your play, you are wrong.

Furthermore, I won a game, 1 out of 3, with 1 draw, all played late at night after hours of playing his son in Gothic Chess, plus we had a few beers as well.

I would rate his play as "not that great" but under the circumstances, this was by no means a tournament. It was 3 blitz games, at varying time controls.

In 2002, Alex also had Nemesis when we played in Banks Ladder. I was able to defeat him in one game. The common claim I hear is "Nemesis doesn't lose" or can't lose or something similar, but in the hands of a World Champion, who can also "check its play", it did lose.

Why? Using WCC as a "tool" I was able to "look ahead" and lead it down paths leading to positions my own experience knows will lose, and that a program will not see until too late.

I have done this here to Pedro, winning from 110+ moves out if you count both sides.

It's not too hard to do IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY to back it up. You can't do this if you are mindless computer player.

And, as many people know, Alex won't play you on the internet unless you play 3 minutes or quicker. Anyone care to tell me how someone could have time to enter a move into a computer, wait for it to think, then make its move, all in under 3 minutes?

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, so drop it.

I won my own games. I have wins against the last 3 world champions - Alex, King, and Lafferty.

Al Lyman still has my blitz game with Laffertry from the GameZone saved somewhere. This was played without a clock but still in about 5 minutes total with about 20 people watching. And again, it was BEFORE GIL AND I MADE WCC, so you mind telling me which program was being used???

If you still have that email, forward it to me at GothicChessInfo@aol.com or else I consider it a forgery.

The NACA was based in New York and there were COUNTLESS events sponsored by them. Mostly offering exhibitions at carnivals, the NACA players always drew a crowd when playing simuls. The president of the company was a retired fire chief who played a pretty mean game.

Sorry, you can't convince me that something I know is true did not exist - I was in some of their tournaments and was a volunteer at two of their simuls, playing 20 boards each time.

And finally, get a life.

I can't help it that I was good at a game that you wasted decades of your life playing. It's a joke. It's a child's game, and you act purely infantile if you insist that I can't play the game.

I beat the computer world champion in 1996.
I beat the last 3 human world champions in at least one game.
And all of you losers keep trying to say I can't play because you are basically jealous of my ability to play a stupid game.

The matter is not closed, it is open, as long as you persist in your nonsense.

Gooner: Karpov signed it. It is a PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT. If they did not want to sign this, why bother with a 100 page document outlining every single detail.

17. Июля 2006, 23:57:12
Nomad 
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Sorry to bring this up but I must.

This is getting a bit off topic. Can we stick to disussions about the game and not about each others ability or skill. It is too close to baiting and flamming for any good to come. I am sure all of you are great players, as such I am sure there is a more honorable way for everyone to settle these misunderstandings. Thank you

18. Июля 2006, 00:05:04
Purple 
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Nomad: I agree. It can be great fun to speculate if Ron King can beat Alex or how would Wylie or Anderson do against today's top players. We can compare ability without calling any of them drunks, cheaters, scoundrels etc. LOL. Then this board will be being used to it's best value.

18. Июля 2006, 08:20:36
gooner 
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Purple: We can only compare ability here of real life players which to me is ironic considering we have this discussion in a forum on the internet. Computer checkers started to ruin actual tounaments aswell when the EDA decided to allow them in. One player I know actually walked out of a tourney after being drawn against computers in the first two rounds and he has been playing checkers all his life. The man who turns up with his laptop and a disk takes second prize when winning the tournament. Something is badly wrong there.

27. Июля 2006, 05:09:53
BlitzMe 
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Сделано для BlitzMe (27. Июля 2006, 05:13:04)
DMatt: "I beat the last 3 human world champions in at least one game."



I've beat Alex Moiseyev over 30 games at Kurnik.org. According to your standards, I must be a grandmaster!



You also said "I can't help it that I was good at a game that you wasted decades of
your life playing. It's a joke. It's a child's game, and you act purely
infantile if you insist that I can't play the game."



I've only been playing since 2002-2003. If checkers is a joke, then why
include yourself in the ACF website forum? Are you sure you want to be
involved in our "joke" game? hmm. If checkers is a child's game, then
why include yourslef in anything checkers related? Are you a child?



If you say you can't use a program in a 3 minute game timer in
checkers, then this is a perfect timer for us to play eachother. I am
offering you a cash match of $100 each, winner takes all, to play me at
Kurnik in a set of 10 games GAYP and 10 games (5 ballots) of 3-Move.
with the 3 minute timer. We will paypal the money to Alex Moiseyev as a
neutral money holder :) After the match, Alex will paypal the $200 to
the winner.



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