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25. april 2011, 18:02:45
mirari 
But in other checkers, all jumps are finished before the promotion happens!

E.g. official draughts rules:
"4.15. Confirming article 3.5., a man who passes during a multiple capture, over a square of his opponent’s promotion row, but ends on another row, remains a man at the end of the capture. "

Or brainking's rules for Draughts:
"However, if a pawn reaches the last row while jumping and can jump more pieces backwards, it does not promote and continues jumping as a pawn."

Turkish, Draughts (International), Canadian, Brazilian, Dameo all work that way - a piece jumps as much as it can and then gets promoted. (While English, Czech, Italian, Spanish / Portuguese, Thai doesn't allow backwards or side jumps, so a piece can never jump further once it reaches the king's row).

Only russian is an exception.

If Gothic is an exception too, I think it needs to be stated more clearly in the rules.

It is very weird to me as a multi-variant checkers players, to see a jump sequence aborted in the middle.

25. april 2011, 13:47:05
Pedro Martínez 
Ämne: Re: Gothic Checkers
mirari:
Rules of Gothic Checkers:
“The other rules are the same as for Checkers.”

Rules of Checkers:
“When a pawn promotes to a king, the move is ALWAYS finished.”

25. april 2011, 13:18:19
mirari 
Ämne: Gothic Checkers
Ändrat av mirari (25. april 2011, 13:19:25)
In my Gothic Checkers game ( Gothic Checkers (didero vs. mirari) ), I was expecting to be able to move 17... e5xg3xe1xc1 - but when entering the move, it stops upon reaching the king's row (after e5xg3xe1).

If this is the intended way for Gothic Checkers to work, the rules needs to be made clearer, as this is different from all other checkers variants I am familiar with - generally, either a piece is only crowned at the end of its move (after all possible jumps have been made), or, in the case of Russian checkers, is allowed to immediately continue jumping as a king - I can't think of any other variant where the piece's movement is halted while there are still available jumps to be done as a man.

21. april 2011, 11:13:23
MadMonkey 
Ämne: Re:
Fencer: Thanks, do not like falling behind on Team games...they last long enough as it is

21. april 2011, 09:41:54
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
MadMonkey: Actually it works but it only tries to find a game of the same team match. I know that's not the expected functionality. I will fix it next week, just leaving for a couple of days.

21. april 2011, 09:09:13
MadMonkey 
Move and goto next Team match

21. april 2011, 03:09:24
happyjuggler0 
Ämne: Re: fed up
Pedro Martínez: Interesting. I always choose autopass, but I never pay attention to whether or not my opponent accepts it too. I kind of thought that it happened even with autopass on, but like I said, I wasn't paying attention. I will look into it from now on when it happens.

Anyway, I still think it is absurd even with 'no autopass" selected, to have to approve the dice of the first roll of the game. But then again, I have no idea why anyone wouldn't choose autopass to begin with. And as I stated in my previous post, as absurd as it is, this issue on the first roll is also just a very minor annoyance anyways....

21. april 2011, 02:43:11
Pedro Martínez 
Ämne: Re: fed up
Ändrat av Pedro Martínez (21. april 2011, 02:45:06)
happyjuggler0: If both players have agreed to use the autopass feature, the initial pair of dice is rolled automatically, and if the first player loses the roll, the “pass” occurs and it is actually the second player who gets to play first.

21. april 2011, 02:11:14
happyjuggler0 
Ämne: Re: fed up
Vikings: With all due respect, that is asinine. Why should the software time someone out "for not rolling the dice" on the first roll of the game? It should be automatic since doubling the opponent is not an option. And if it is automatic, then having the player confirm that the dice were in fact rolled is absurd.

That said, if one were to rank this "bug" (I'm not even sure I would call it a bug, just a time wasting feature) on BK's site of 1-5, with 1 demanding immediate attention, and 5 being low priority, I would rank this problem somewhere around 250. It is annoying, but only in a "you can't be serious" kind of way.

I can think of many other things I'd rather have Fencer do to improve this site before I asked him to eliminate this pointless feature which does little more than waste a few seconds of player time every now and then.

21. april 2011, 01:52:20
Vikings 
Ämne: Re: fed up
thisbeme: The reason is that in order for the dice to come up as you lost the initial roll, you have to click on to that game otherwise you would time out for not rolling the dice

20. april 2011, 18:29:46
Roberto Silva 
Ämne: Re: fed up
thisbeme: I thought that's what autopass was for?

20. april 2011, 14:34:03
rabbitoid 
Ämne: Re: fed up
thisbeme: I agree. Making your customers click needlessly is unforgivable. For this crime Fencer should get at least 20 years hard labour.

20. april 2011, 13:49:35
thisbeme 
Ämne: fed up
Why do I have to click move when I've lost the initial dice roll.
Maybe we should have to click move when going 2nd at checkers and chess.
The time spent on these games caused me to time out in games going on for months that I'd been enjoying.
Clicking move when it isn't my move is asinine!!

19. april 2011, 07:28:06
Papa Zoom 
Ämne: Re: Thanks Fencer
ScarletRose:"Thanks Fencer
For all you do.. "

This Bud's for you!

19. april 2011, 05:32:25
ScarletRose 
Ämne: Thanks Fencer
For all you do.. 

19. april 2011, 02:21:17
Papa Zoom 
Ämne: Re: Modified by Vikings
Artful Dodger:

18. april 2011, 22:40:44
beach 
Ämne: Re: new settings
happyjuggler0: thanks for the suggestion it helps me to get to those games thanks alot

18. april 2011, 21:08:34
El Cid 
Ämne: New changes
Ändrat av El Cid (18. april 2011, 21:09:17)
Although the play later and the select game features now work correctly, I still can't "play and move to the next game" to the next game that has been played more recently. Moreover, the javascript list of games (from the red number next to the main page) still shows the first 30 games within a game page, but only shows the first 5 and then "..." in the main page. I know it maybe asking a lot, since some bugs had to be solved on the last days, but could this options be independently controled (before the update, I had my main page showing 5 games, but had 30 in the javascript menu)

Edit: It seems in the fora page, it also shows more than 5, so it may be a "main page" bug

18. april 2011, 19:27:42
happyjuggler0 
Ämne: Re: new settings
beach: I suggest opening up enough tabs to see each 100 game page. Then you can see all of your games, and play whomever you choose. You may or may not need to refresh the page manually when you go back to an old tab.

Anyway, that is the best work-around that I can think of for your problem.

18. april 2011, 16:57:53
Fencer 
Ämne: Re: new settings
beach: Right now I can suggest to wait for the next update. I think that I can add more parameters to the filter.

18. april 2011, 13:29:34
beach 
Ämne: new settings
Ändrat av beach (18. april 2011, 14:47:16)
thanks fencer for making the main page work again, but I still cannot get to the 5 and 7 day games without having to call up different pages, I tried the game filter that option doesn't work to get me to see those games either any suggestions? Only way I see I could get to them easily is if the main page was able to be to set to a great number then 100 perhaps 500 would solve the problem just a thought

18. april 2011, 10:54:58
Bernice 
Ämne: Re:
Fencer: smart arse.........well the choose game feature dont work for me.

18. april 2011, 10:11:46
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
Bernice: Ten Ways To Fight Hate.
Anyway, the choose game feature works for me.

18. april 2011, 09:09:08
Bernice 
I did read the blog but...further to below...after I have moved I use the drop down menu to "choose" which game I want next (altho it doesnt show all gmes)...no way...it goes back to the top of the list ....HATE THIS...I want to play whom I want to play, when I want to play :(

18. april 2011, 07:57:30
Bernice 
Ämne: Re: Fencer
Artful Dodger: oops...looks as tho HE did it again ROFLMBO

18. april 2011, 06:48:24
Papa Zoom 
Ämne: Fencer
Ändrat av Papa Zoom (18. april 2011, 06:50:00)
Am wondering if that, in your tweaking of things, you could tweak it so that the Globals and Board mods lose their ability to use their moderating functions. Then, I can post a few mischievous
things on the boards without the threat of trouble. Hmmmm, or just tweak things so that I alone an unmoderable (a new word - maybe it's unmoderatable ).


18. april 2011, 06:44:40
Papa Zoom 
Ämne: Re:
happyjuggler0: Yeah, but it still feels like a punnishment!

18. april 2011, 06:41:43
happyjuggler0 
Ämne: Re:
Off topic. Hmmm, there is no topic in this forum, so, er, um, nevermind.

Artful Dodger: The thing is, getting a refund doesn't mean that you got a great deal. You could still have paid through the nose. In reality the only thing that you know when you get a tax refund is that you screwed up and had too much deducted from your taxes, and you got screwed.

18. april 2011, 06:37:11
Papa Zoom 
I have no compaints because:

A. It will do little good.
B. Things will improve in the long run.
C. After things are improved, I'll be happy with the improvements and won't remember what I was upset over anyway. I have about a 2 days remembering system. Ask my wife.
D. And I just finished my taxes and I had to pay. Lots.




Paying the government more money is a huge annoyance.

BK bugs - no so much.

18. april 2011, 03:46:13
Bernice 
Ämne: Re: Moving on games?
beach: agreed :) I am with you on this.

18. april 2011, 03:20:56
Mélusine 
Ämne: Re: I would like to the see the move to main page working again
beach: I totally agree with you : I also like to be able to see the list and not just automatically go to the next game. I also hope this function to come back.

18. april 2011, 03:17:57
Mélusine 
Ämne: Re: Sometimes I don't know why I even bother to write news and blog posts.
Fencer: Some people, like me, don't say anything but read them. All is clear for me and I think that this information was necessary so as to avoid to point bugs out.

18. april 2011, 02:49:11
Bernice 
just registering my displeasure at the new options... I like the old options of the drop down boxes :(

17. april 2011, 21:12:05
happyjuggler0 
Ämne: Re: Moving on games?
beach: I'm sure that fencer is working on it; it is in my opinion the worst of the new bugs. Aside from being obnoxious, it means that some opponents won't be moving very often in those "7 day" games that you were talking about.

I won't be accepting anything but short time limits until this is fixed for that very reason. That includes both private games and tournaments.

17. april 2011, 19:22:43
Bwild 
There is nothing to worry about - everything is working OK

17. april 2011, 19:15:20
Fencer 
Ämne: Less than 100 games in a list
Yes, I have overlooked this one, mostly because I don't use that feature so I forgot we had it here. It will be easily fixed.

17. april 2011, 19:05:16
Bwild 
Ämne: Re: Moving on games?
well.....so far so good for me.
one question though(for fear of being called lazy cause I dont read the blahblogs) ...is there a setting for the number of your turn games? seems I have to scroll through pages now,and it also affects my go to drop box.

17. april 2011, 18:20:12
beach 
Ämne: Re: Moving on games?
Ändrat av beach (17. april 2011, 18:30:02)
alexlee: I would like to the see the move to main page working again, I like to be able to see the list not just automatically go to the next game, hopefully that function comes back when fencer is finished now I keep getting the same game on top and I play games with different time limits so I don't want to automatically go to the time with the least amount of time and never get to play the 7 day games until they reach the top

17. april 2011, 17:20:48
El Cid 
Ämne: Re: Blog entry
rod03801: I hope so, it's just that on the last line of the blog it says "I hope I listed all important things here. If not, please leave a comment.", so that's what I'm doing

17. april 2011, 17:17:42
rod03801 
Ämne: Re: Blog entry
El Cid: You must log in to the blog site to leave a comment.
Plus, be sure you log in to the right place. The "self registration" area fools some people into thinking that's where you log in. It's actually way below that, under the past comments.

Perhaps a side effect of the change, is that you temporarily can't change the listing to LESS than the 100 max.

17. april 2011, 17:02:33
El Cid 
Ämne: Blog entry
I tried to leave a comment in the blog, but maybe I'm doing something wrong, so here it is
"I don't know if it's me, but I have the "show games on main page" set to 5, however, it shows all of my games. This, however, does not happen with the ponds"

17. april 2011, 16:32:04
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
Doris: Thank you. That's exactly what I meant. It is likely that people find out that some functions don't work properly but the most important functionality (play games) is not affected by any changes. It would be too risky to make too many changes as a one big update, and bugs are always around. Good news is that I am aware of most of them and it should not take too much time to fix them.

17. april 2011, 16:27:45
Doris 
I read the blog first thing when I logged in. I expected to see some problems...but as of yet, I have not encountered any in my regular game playing. I think Fencer is doing a wonderful job on keeping this site in good shape and I thank him for all his hard work in doing so. I am sorry that some people are having problems but please be patient and don't be too quick to criticize.

17. april 2011, 16:22:01
crosseyed_uk 
Ämne: Re: Problem solved.
Ändrat av crosseyed_uk (17. april 2011, 16:24:04)
Fencer: Thank you. I do love those smileys and was sad when you stopped producing anymore.

17. april 2011, 16:18:08
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
crosseyed: Thanks for a valuable response. The "problem" is solved.

17. april 2011, 16:16:53
crosseyed_uk 
Ämne: Re:
Fencer:

17. april 2011, 16:16:30
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
Pedro Martínez: I am used to be accused of even worse things here. It's a pity that some people are too selfish to see things from a global point of view.

17. april 2011, 16:15:22
Fencer 
Ämne: Re:
crosseyed: If it is boring, than no other response would be useful to you. The purpose of blog posts is to summarize all important information at one place, so smart people could easily find everything there, while lazy people just keep asking one by one.
If you call it "too much crap", you can hardly expect any further help from me.

17. april 2011, 16:12:48
Pedro Martínez 
Ämne: Re:
Ändrat av Pedro Martínez (17. april 2011, 16:13:33)
Fencer: Be careful, or you'll be accused of discrimination against the visually impaired…

17. april 2011, 16:11:50
crosseyed_uk 
Ämne: Re:
Fencer: Perhaps it's because they are boring and too much crap to read.It is better straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

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