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5. juni 2014, 14:14:48
beach 
Ämne: re complaining
For my 2 cents worth here, I too play against paying and non paying members.  I pay for a membership and I play a lot of games that is the purpose of my membership.  I play usually only 3 or 4 day time limit games I rarely take 7 days tournaments because for my liking they are too slow and I always play those games last.  Time limits are a personal choice.   To those that only play a few games and want moves made several times a day I suggest you post games in the waiting room or choose game from there with a 1 day limit.  The beauty of this site is there is a time limit that suits everyone.  This is one of my favourite sites, I play several times a day, but sometimes real life effects how many moves I make a day.  There are several of us that play lots of games and again that is our right with a membership.  There are less and less fellowships now that post tournaments not like in the old days.  I used to post new tournaments in the tournament section where everyone could join, and found there are fewer and fewer people here that wish to play, as a result when someone else posts a tournament I join.     I have never had a problem with anyone who plays within the time limits.  So to those that complain, I suggest buy a membership if you can, if that is not possible post really quick games in the waiting room.

5. juni 2014, 14:24:54
crosseyed_uk 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
beach: Again I agree with you totally.

5. juni 2014, 14:24:58
Aganju 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
Ändrat av Aganju (5. juni 2014, 14:27:10)
beach: I generally agree. Everyone is free to join in a game or tournament, and if you do so and not read or understand the time settings, it is your fault, and you should not blame others for it.
Yes, I do not like to have 100 or so games hanging around from 2012 and earlier, which move every 29.9 days only, but if it really bothers me, I should not have joined them to begin with. It is like in real life - if you buy a broken car that is advertised as such, you got a broken car, so nobody to blame except yourself.

Regarding beach's point to the tournaments (which I find much more interesting and fruitful to discuss): I have the feeling that the tournament list has been taken over by an enormous amount of numbered the-same-all-over-again tournaments, that nobody ever signs up for. I often spent half an hour trying to find a tournament to join, but all of them are the same, and have only one or two players waiting. I think we should target quality before quantity, and then people would join again. But again, yes, I understand that a paying member bought the right to create a gazillion useless identical tournaments. So be it. I hope you get happy with it.

One side note: I would join a lot more Backgammon-variant tournaments, if they would not be created as one-pointers. Any serious backgammon player knows that the game needs the cube, and playing only one single game is too much random winning. So please, when you create backgammon type tournaments, use at least 5 points (or more), and allow the cube, and you will get more players.

5. juni 2014, 14:32:13
crosseyed_uk 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
Ändrat av crosseyed_uk (5. juni 2014, 14:34:45)
Aganju: Once again I agree with you totally What I did like was your suggestion about Backgammon variants tournaments. I don't really like playing single games as it can be too one sided sometimes and over very soon. I like playing 3 and 5 or more points games too. How about you setting one up then for us?

5. juni 2014, 14:37:44
Justaminute 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
Aganju:
I do agree the tournament system is one of the weaker parts of Brainking, and it seems to be a case of the inmates running the asylum. The plus side is that you can create an endless variety of tournaments, but right now there is an endless list of the same tournament. Some sites simply set up a fixed number of tournaments each week, or there is only one open one at a time. I would prefer this as you would probably get more people entering each tournament if there was only 1 to enter. It does limit the variety on the time per move, clock type etc which is Brainking’s strength and well as its weakness.

5. juni 2014, 14:47:49
beach 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
Justaminute:   it would be nice to have different people creating different tournaments not everyone likes the same games.  As for having one auto generated tournament (similar to IYT)  the tournament set up here is the one I like the best I like the option of being able to create a tournament when I want to.  The situation on the current board was discussed several months ago with fencer on here.  I thought he was going to make some changes.  There are less and less people playing on this site which I think is part of the problem with the tournament section.  I used to post tournaments with different variations and games (although always 3 day limit) but found I couldn't get 8 people to sign up so the tournaments could run.  A problem with the current board is tournaments staying on after scheduled start date.  My personal opinion is that when a tournament is supposed to start it either starts or should get deleted, it shouldn't be able to sit on the board for another 30 days waiting for people to sign up. 

5. juni 2014, 15:13:46
ThunderGr 
Ämne: Re: re complaining
beach: It is often the case that people will not sign to a tournament starting, say, in 3 days but they would sign on one that is about to start as soon as the minimum number of participants sign up.
I've had most of my tournaments starting up while past the starting up time.

I think the waiting period before deletion is a good thing.

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