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Quotes should be attributed to a source, I only noticed it cuz I've never seen it not done before..........the anti intellectual fad that has been in vogue on the right is a head shaker.It's almost like a Harvard degee is to be mocked, and politicians with zero experience, or little education are in.I've done ok without a degree, but I respect education. If I'm boarding a plane,I want a qualified pilot.............Palin has appeal to a very small segment of the voting public, her bark is bigger than her bite country wide.
Übergeek 바둑이: Who stated the quotes? I think O'Donnell being blissfully unaware of the contents of the First Amendment, and the video of here exposing that gaffe, cost her.........Angle was a gift to Reid..........the fun is about to begin, as Tea Party and Republican winners try and co exist, not to mention the Republican primary debates with Palin.Up until now Republicans have shyed away from challanging her, just wait till they face her in debates
Ämne: Re: I'm sure there is a valid excuse for these men attacking this woman
Bernice: The heat has been turned up on both sides by commentators on cable news, in my opinion.You have me stumped regarding the last part of your response.The incident sickens me,the headline of the post was intended to be sarcastic
Artful Dodger: In our brief national history we have shot four of our presidents, worried five of them to death, impeached one and hounded another out of office. And when all else fails, we hold an election and assassinate their character.
Ämne: Re: and he is currently destroying the US economy.
SL-Mark: Realistically thinking, do you really think multi billion dollar corporations are going to hand the keys to a private citizen who just happens to capture the imagination of slightly more than 50% of those who bother to vote?
We're still hovering around par,I'm still holding a grand US cash that I have yet to exchange from my trip to Vegas a month back.........I think our strong dollar is more a reflection of the very weak US buck
Ämne: Re:and I thought POTUS referred to Presidents not a President!!
Artful Dodger: I watch Fox News, and my appraisal is that anyone right of mind can see they are in the tank for the right, and MSNBC is even more in the tank for the left,both channels make my head explode, though I'm not sure if NBC has actually donated a million bucks to the DNC, like Fox donated to the RNC
Übergeek 바둑이: Again, you fail to state the provocation that began the military action, not to mention the human shields that were used in an effort to up casulties and thusly feed the propoganda value.Firing rockets from within homes and villages will provoke retaliation to the source, a very cowerdly form of warfare................do you have any idea how many rockets were fired towards Israel before any action was taken? how long do you think the USA would put up with rockets being fired at them before taking action? Israel has shown amazing restraint in that respect.
Nobody has their hands clean in the issue of a Palestinian solution.I know a solution will one day arrive, and be agreed upon, but if you insist on painting a one sided picture, there is more than enough paint left to complete the other side.The peace process will begin when both sides begin to look to the future, and plant the seeds for trust and respect.
Ämne: Re:I am well aware of the PLO, suicide bombings, home-made rockets, etc
Übergeek 바둑이: In many regards we are known by the company we keep.The Palestinians hitched their boat to terrorists, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Übergeek 바둑이: What I do find disgusting, is how the Palestinian people, the regular guy on the street, who just wants the love of his family, and a roof over his head, has been used as a pawn by so many Arab countries(and terrorist groups) who couldn't give a damn if they lived or died, but sure like using them.Are you aware of how looked down upon the Palestinians are by their Arab brothers? or a good number of them.Palestinians and Israelis actually don't get along badly in Israel generally speaking, and many Palestinians have attained pretty high standing within Israeli society........but that's not the juicy stuff is it
Ämne: Re:I am well aware of the PLO, suicide bombings, home-made rockets, etc
Übergeek 바둑이:yet totally dismissive of its impact on the entire situation, nor the distrust many countries have of the Palestinians recieving financial aid, and then funneling it to their close buddies Hezbollah and Hamas.You can't erase decades of terrorism my friend. regardless of how well it frames the argument.Israel is far from perfect, that I have acknowledged, but you can not give a full account of the present situation without presenting both sides, and some history.
Ämne: Re: the Palestinians do not recognise Israel.. yet they have since 1993
lizrising: It is very complicated,and the emotion on both sides makes it even more so.Strategically speaking though, if peace ever does come between both sides it will really mess with the haters in the middle east, as I heard a Jordanian diplomat explain a few weeks ago.
Übergeek 바둑이: Historically,Israel has had to fight wars against(instigated most often by) multiple countries all at once, vastly outnumbered.I'm pretty sure that is the root of the military aid they recieve.If they did not have top notch military equipment Israel would not exist today.Personally I'm torn on the preservation of a Jewish State issue, while I am atheist,I have strong cultural ties to Judaism, and know that atheist or not, if Jews ever became another target,I would not be spared due to my atheism, the name on my birth certificate would be enough to put me in harms way.I think you need to understand the Jewish mentality, regardless of where Jews live in the world,Israel is considered their only safe haven if the unthinkable ever happened again.You are dealing with a very fragile insecurity in regards to the Jewish relationship to Israel, and that is something that cannot be seperated from the discussion.I do not condone much of Israeli policy in relation to the Palestinians, but to not acknowledge even once in your post the many years of terrorism towards Israel by the PLO, and the environment of distrust that has created towards peace displays an incomplete side of the story, and resolution.
Ämne: Re: the Palestinians do not recognise Israel.. yet they have since 1993
(V): It's political posturing, but recognising Israel without its Jewish identity, is like recognising The Holy See without acknowledging its Catholic culture.Israel was created to be a Jewish state,(rightly or wrongly) to delete that from the recognition, is to not fully recoginise.The Palestinians have done their share of walking away, or sabotaging agreements, it's a shame former Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin are not still around to lend their wisdom to the process.
Ämne: Re: the Palestinians do not recognise Israel.. yet they have since 1993
(V): Can you provide me the actual statement?
At least Fox News doesn't provide a free propoganda pulpit for the terrorist wing of the Palestinians, as CNN and MSNBC seem very happy to do.........Israel has handled the situation badly in many respects, no argument on that count, but they also have enough past history that warrents very careful movement on the issues before them.
(V): If you had the track record of the Palestinians, I would hold back on granting you sainthood, unlike most of the world press so gleefully have.Both sides have much to do before real peace can ever be achieved.Maybe tossing bombs in school buses and night clubs is a noble deed to some, but I'm not quite ready to grant them the martyrdom so many do.
According to a police investigation, Williams opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers who had stopped him on an Oakland freeway for driving erratically. For 12 frantic minutes, Williams traded shots with the police, employing three firearms and a small arsenal of ammunition, including armor-piercing rounds fired from a .308-caliber rifle.
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