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14. februari 2009, 10:39:51
The Usurper 
Ämne: Politics & Religion
I brought religion into this discussion because, when considering the case of the poor, the Bible has a lot to say about it. Also, most Republicans are Bible-thumping Christians, are they not? So it applies. And one would think the Bible's teachings & sentiments on this subject would influence their attitudes, political as well as private. It would appear, however, that other Biblical themes (particularly the Mosaic ones) get most of their attention.

I don't even claim to be a Christian. I ought not to know more about the Bible than most of these fundamentalist-types. And I didn't write the Bible, so I can't take the blame for what it says. If Jesus and his disciples were bleeding hearts, or too lazy and irresponsible to work, as O'Reilly would have it, or not worthy of compassion, as Limbaugh suggests, or perhaps ought to be kicked around a bit, as Beck thinks....or if the poor, rather than being blessed or held in esteem, are the scum of the Earth which deserved to be washed away by Katrina because they didn't have enough sense to leave the city...well, I can't help it if the Bible you purport to believe in & abide by rather condemns your point of view.

But when did the "man of sorrows" ever catch a break?

14. februari 2009, 10:54:02
Mousetrap 
Ämne: Re: Politics & Religion
The Usurper: There is something to be said for Gandhi when you put it like that lmbo!

14. februari 2009, 11:21:55
The Usurper 
Ämne: Re: Politics & Religion
Mousetrap: I agree! There is a man who exemplified Christ. :o)

14. februari 2009, 11:33:16
The Usurper 
Ämne: Re: Politics & Religion
Mousetrap: Also thank you for your post. It is the only one in the last 7+ hours not from the opposition. lol

14. februari 2009, 16:59:20
Czuch 
Ämne: Re: Politics & Religion
The Usurper: I am not a bible thumper....

my point to you again, is not that some may need the care from others, but where do you see in our constitution that it is the responsibility of the federal government to give this kind of care?

It comes down to democrats/socialists, who believe the federal government should be more and more responsible for the people, and take more and more of our money to do it or conservatives/libertarians, who believe that the federal government should have a very limited role in our lives.

There are many ways in which a society can and should take care of its poor and others that need caring for... but where is it written that society = federal government?

Also, like AD was trying to point out, it is more likely that the so called bible thumpers give far more to charitable concerns than you and your socialist friends ever thought about giving?

Just re reading some of your comments... it is clear that you have a complete misunderstanding of our (conservative if you will) views.... is it not possible for us to have compassion yet still believe that it is not the federal governments responsibility????

Its really that simple, we want to take care of the poor, we just dont want our federal government to be the solution!

14. februari 2009, 17:21:12
"GERRY" 
Ämne: Re: Politics & Religion
Czuch: If all the bible thumpers & goverments of there own countrys.Would help there own.Then that would be a start to get this whole world working together.In stead of blowing all that money on BS

14. februari 2009, 18:25:37
Mousetrap 
Ämne: Re: last seven hours
The Usurper: So I see lmbo!
I dont know anything about American politics. Its very interesting reading this board though lol.
I think goveraments are the same all over the world. Only some are more corrupt than others. It does,nt matter who gets in most look out for number one.

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