lukulus: I was going to say that - but then some other people (who will remain nameless) might figure out they can cheat that way ... because the way to detect a computer cheater is the exact same way to cheat.

ColonelCrockett: yes, but it is differnet if you do it when game is finished or during the game.

This has been an interesting discussion. I don't know if there is a really reliable way to test computer use. I was a 2300+ correspondence play and a Master OTB and in the ICCF where you could use computer engines legally for chess you found when using the engine often there were two or three fairly good choices and often what choice you chose was the style of play you liked. Engines also can return different results depening on how powerful the CPU and even if you had a lot of games to examine you almost would need to examine them on the type of Computer that you thought the "cheat" might be using.

panzerschiff: That's a good point regarding the difference of chess engines and computer selected moves. I'm glad to see a more logical approach to the problem (as compared to 435152). thanks, JV.

i was a world champion.....no .who would believe that?? now..i am just an old man with no desire to beat people on line. A master won't say he is MASTER on line. a real master will hide his ID if he play online some times. IF JUST IF... ACTUALY NO MASTER WILL PLAY HERE FOR SURE.

435152: you're still on this topic? It's four months old ... find something else to talk about ... perhaps a topic more suited to your talents.

I thought somebody on this chess board would be amused by these pictures:

http://xkcd.com/chesscoaster/

www.chess-knights.com has been terminated :(

ketchuplover: sorry to hear about it. What happened?

The owner passed away in January. The site kept going but no one could get his data. I think eventually there was an unsolveable problem and no one to adequately address it.

to portray Bobby fischer in Pawn Sacrifices

ketchuplover: I like that link ... capablanca always does better than expected in these kinds of rankings.

I was asking a few years ago to get a form of notation that i am familiar with. i dont use any of the version that we use here on BK. the one i use is : P-K4 P-K4 2. B-B4 N-kb3 3 P-kR4 ect... i never could get the other versions... what is up with this.?

Nothingness: That's known as "Descriptive chess notation"; once popular in Britain and the USA. Considered to be obsolete since the late 20th century. (Abbreviated) algebraic chess notation (used in BK) uses less characters, and isn't as ambiguous as Descriptive chess notation. Algebraic notation was developed by Philipp Stamma in the first half of the 18th century (and actually predates Descriptive chess notation).

yes it is very complicated using the letters and numbers of the ranks and files. e4 tells me nothing. where as P-Q4 tells me exactly what was moved and where to. e4 is too vague what moved to E4?

Nothingness: e4 is too vague what moved to E4?

A pawn. If in algebraic notation the piece that moved isn't indicated (either using a symbol, or a capital letter), a pawn was moved.

Now, you say "P-Q4" tells you exactly what was moved and where to, but I challenge that. "e4" in unambiguous. It's the white square, three square straight ahead of the starting square to the white King. But "P-Q4"? That could either be white moving to "d4" (the black square three square ahead of the starting square of the white Queen), or black moving to "d5" (the white square four squares ahead of the starting square of the white Queen).

Not to mention that descriptive notation allows moves like "KxP" or "Q-B4", which require knowledgement of the current position to know which move was actually performed. OTOH, using long algebraic notation, the move is always unambiguous, and never needs the current position to determine which piece moved from what square to what other square. "e2-e4" cannot be any other move than a pawn moving from "e2" (which is always the same square - regardless whose move it is) to "e4" (which is also always the same square - regardless whose move it is).

There's a reason descriptive notation only ever caught on in a few countries, and is even considered obsolete there. Virtual all modern chess literature from the past decades uses algebraic notation. Chess literature from many countries have done so for over 150 years.

Algebraic chess books can be followed in any language if they use a symbol for the piece. P-Q4 doesn't tell you much if your language uses different letters for pawn and queen. The narrative can be a bit tricky of course!

Justaminute: Only if you consider "any language" to be languages that use the Western alphabet. "b1-c3" isn't easy to understand if you're used Arabic or Chinese.

AbigailII: english descriptive notation was scrapped because it leads to ambiguity errors far too frequently ... modern algebraic notation was adopted by the international chess federation and most national federations.

ColonelCrockett: Hmmm, yes. That was what I said four posting ago.

AbigailII: hehe, apologies ... I'm was lazy the day i read the posts. ;)

Bobby Fischer Goes to War & Pawn Sacrifices are slated to debut in 2013. Plan accordingly.

died on 9-9-10. He was 75.

instead of the ground zero mosque. Thoughts?

ketchuplover: There is no such thing as “ground zero mosque”.

ketchuplover: A Chess Center anywhere is a great idea. Learning the game is great for kids' education. To see what I mean listen to this (20 mins+):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p009p4qb/The_Friday_Documentary_Seeking_The_Endgame_Episode_2/

Beren the 32nd:
Thanks for the link, I enjoyed the programme.

Just to let everyone on this board know, Piranha is not an opponent you want to have. She sets the moves to 30 days per move, and if you start to win, she takes all 30 days for each move. I have been winning for close to 3 years now in our game, and am still about 10-15 moves away from checkmate. That's more than 1 more year I have to keep this game in my active games, and can't play another game!!!! She has also done this with other players.

So, in conclusion, don't play Piranha unless you're a brainrook and immortal.

bobwhoosta: This a common complaint with various players. It is fair by the rules, but it's certainly not in the spirit of the game when the situation was equal and the moves were coming faster. If they move at different paces depending on the game situation, then this person is playing two games instead of one. Them's the breaks for you.

The Fischer Clock or a shorter time limit is what I do. Or pick my opponents carefully. Some will slip through, so create the time parameters yourself. Most people are happy with whatever you have, and those of us that have work or other obligations away from the computer will pick the time limit that fits into their life. Or, as you've noted, I have a Rook unlimited membership and it solves this problem even if the annoying game is still on my list of games.

bobwhoosta: Now imagine being stuck in a game like this:
Šachy (lukulus vs. Harassed)

Pedro Martínez: As I recall, you can delete games under 4 moves?

rabbitoid: But this is a tournament game, which presumably is different?

Resher: wow, an eternal tournament? well, take consolation in your divine status, then :)

Its a good to know even after my death I will be playing chess:)

lukulus: Of course! death would be pretty boring otherwise.

By the way, Fencer, I always wanted to ask. Black rook is for life only? Do you have a second offer for the longer period that follows that?

rabbitoid: I guess that would depend if you were going up or down

happy Holidays :)

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you are probably all also watching the big bang theory .... :)

in one of the episodes sheldon came up with a new type of chess with 2 extra pieces (the old lady and the serpent) ... that might actually be an interesting type of chess

later in the same episode they added even more rules and pieces, but i lost count at that time :)

Hrqls: I am sure if Sheldon thought of it there would have to be some big explosion with some piece and the game would be over in a trice but to get there would require 23 moves performed in exactly the right order whilst facing west and only breathing out ... bless his soul.

The most over-rated move in chess history is 23...qg3 in Levitsky v. Marshall (Breslau 1912)

tutti frutti chess was invented in 1978 by Ralph Betsa and Philip Cohen . There are nine different pieces (each player starts a game with eight pawns (placed on their standard Chess positions) , one Amazon (on the D column) , one Marshall (on the A column) , one Cardinal (on the G column) , one queen (on the F column) , one rook (on the H column) , one bishop (on the C column) , one knight (on the B column) and one king (on the E column) .

In move , Marshall = knight and rook , Amazon = queen and knight , and Cardinal = bishop and knight

The king cas castle with the marshall , following standard castling rules

When a pawn reaches the last row (from the player's point of view) , it can be promoted to a knight , a rook , a bishop , a queen , a marshall , a cardinal or a amazon

The other rules are the same as for Standard chess

Do not merge with Knight mate chess

The queen replaced by amazon , the bishops by cardinals , and the rooks by Marshalls (in move , amazon = queen and knight , marshall = rook and knight , cardinal = bishop and knight)

There is no a castle

Pawns can be promoted on a knight , rook , queen or bishop , as a standard chess

Hecatomb chess was been invented by Kevin Maroney

Each player has thirty one queens and one king .

The kings are positionned as a standard chess (white e1 and black e8) . The other squares each contain a queen (white of the first four rows , except e1, black on the last four rows , except e8 )

Apart from the particular opening setup , the game is played following all applicable rules of standard chess

ketchuplover: speaking of sites please check out...

http://stanleyrandomchess.com/Comparison-of-Online-Chess-Sites.php

Thank ye