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17. septembra 2007, 00:14:31
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Thanks! We must of been looking at snakes at the same time!!

17. septembra 2007, 00:18:25
Ewe 

heres">http://www.wildlifebritain.com/thesmoothsnake.php

heres
some info about the smooth snake!
yay for google

Aw thats cruel about the plastic easter eggs!

17. septembra 2007, 00:24:25
Ewe 
Dont know what happened with my link but I will try it again

http://www.wildlifebritain.com/thesmoothsnake.php

Thanks for your links!! lol

17. septembra 2007, 00:25:46
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: LOL yes that one caught my eye too on your link! Two heads!!!

17. septembra 2007, 00:33:18
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
 Tuesday: I really dont know??? I would have to google that lol

17. septembra 2007, 00:38:30
Ewe 
Yes, it says this on that same site....

All of our UK snakes are completely protected under law, and it is even an offence to disturb them in some cases.

17. septembra 2007, 00:40:52
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Anyway it explains why I havent seen any snakes in the wild here, I live in the wrong part of the country (or the right part depending on your preference for snakes lol)

17. septembra 2007, 00:45:22
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: LOL poor Finch wonder if it was a slow worm?

17. septembra 2007, 00:55:13
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Now thats interesting isnt it! I must admit if I saw one of those I probably would of thought it was a snake....not a slow worm and definately not a lizard! LOL

17. septembra 2007, 00:56:23
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Yes it says why but m sure I wouldnt of got close enough to check if it had eye lids!

17. septembra 2007, 01:02:13
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Id be in the opposite direction!

17. septembra 2007, 03:17:10
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: I didn't take them to the vet
Tuesday: Maybe it's just me, but if my pet animal got bit by ANY wild animal (snake or otherwise), I'd take it to the vet, or at the very least consult with them on the phone about it.....

17. septembra 2007, 19:35:01
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: I didn't take them to the vet
srnity: I agree but I am a bit over protective..but a sanke bite,yes,I would definatly take it...what if it had a reaction to the venom....BUT....lol...Tuesday is right..when I was growing up,sure I liked our dogs and stuff but we never had one long enough to get attched to it because it wasn't treated like family..it was just as she said,something that ran around the yard,sometimes ran off for days at a time,never really felt they were part of the family.NOW though...OMG,if my dog runs towards an open front door I panick that what if they get out and run off,lol...The way my parents acted towards animals was not cool.

17. septembra 2007, 22:15:01
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Oh wow!! Looks beautiful!!

18. septembra 2007, 01:08:59
wetware 
Subjekt: Dogs and Snake Bites--another viewpoint

Question posed to Dr. Jeff Nichol, a vet who writes a regular column for the Albuquerque Journal:


Q: Last year my friend's dog got snake-bit. I have a new puppy and we plan to hike a lot and it's already getting warm. What happens if we find a snake? What should I do if my puppy gets bit?


A. This is a subject that strikes fear into the hearts of most of us. The type of snakes you might run into has everything to do with the part of the country where you plan to hike. Coral snakes, like those found in the eastern and southern portions of the United States, are shy and mostly active at night so they are seldom a problem. Rattlesnakes, copperheads and cottonmouth water moccasins, on the other hand, are known to be more aggressive.


So which pets are at risk? Most injuries result from a curious dog playing aggressively with a snake. Bites are usually found on the head. The amount of venom injected into the pet is influenced by the size of the snake and just how mad he's gotten. But the activity of the pet after the bite is an even greater factor in recovery.


Remember the old cowboy movies when they would suck out the venom to save the patient? We have since realized that venom absorbs much too fast for this to help. More to the point, allowing the pet to be active after a bite will cause the venom to be carried to other areas of the body faster and increase the risk. So the best first aid is to control activity and to get the pet to a veterinary hospital as quickly as possible. Knowing what type of snake caused the bite is important because the antidote, called antivenin, is specific to the venom. In New Mexico, most snake bites result from pit vipers like rattlesnakes. In addition to antivenin, the doctor will also treat a snake bitten pet with intravenous fluids, antibiotics and pain management. Other problems resulting from rattlesnake bites include shock, bruising of other tissues due to poor blood clotting, tissue death at the site of the bite and a whole lot of pain.


The best defense against snake bites in pets is to keep them on a leash while hiking. As responsible pet owners, we must use common sense because very often our pets are just too goofy.


18. septembra 2007, 01:23:40
The Col 
Subjekt: Re: Dogs and Snake Bites--another viewpoint
wetware: "our pets are just too goofy"
I wouldn't want it any other way.I wonder if animals can laugh at situations,or at least smirk?

19. septembra 2007, 01:49:39
The Col 
Subjekt: I know this isn't the music board,but ........
Zmenené užívateľom The Col (19. septembra 2007, 01:50:35)

19. septembra 2007, 19:09:06
The Col 
Subjekt: I'd like your help
Please pm privately or here,questions you would ask Busch Gardens animal ambassador, Julia Scardina

21. septembra 2007, 01:59:47
anastasia 
Subjekt: please help save the wolves!!

When people think of Alaska, they think of its amazing wildlife and natural beauty. But Alaska has a terrible secret: Each year, the state permits private citizens to chase down and kill dozens of wolves using low-flying aircraft and high-powered rifles.


Defenders of Wildlife has created a powerful video on the issue that I think you might want to check out online at:


http://SaveWolves.org/alaska


Warning: This video contains graphic footage of aerial wolf hunts -- wolves shot down from above, chased to exhaustion and wounded and left to die.


Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and anti-wolf officials in the state have worked hard to obscure the truth about the aerial gunning program, even going so far as to earmark $400,000 in state funds to "educate" Alaskans about the state's baseless aerial gunning program.


Fortunately, there is something you and I can do to help.


Watch Defenders of Wildlife's new video and then take action to urge Governor Palin to end aerial hunting of wolves online at:


http://www.SaveWolves.org/alaska


If you would prefer to take action without watching the video, please visit the website below:


http://www.SaveWolves.org/alaskanovideo


21. septembra 2007, 02:03:38
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
anastasia: Coming from a place where people are already out there hunting (I don't hunt, but a lot of people here do) and it's only September here, but, at least it's not being done by helicopter - who could ever think that's a way to hunt game (wolves or otherwise) - shame on them

21. septembra 2007, 02:43:24
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
srnity: my brother in law hunts BUT he hunts for the food,not just to kill.....There is a difference...this wolf areial hunting is just sick  What do they do with the wolves..eat the meat...NOT

21. septembra 2007, 02:47:02
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
anastasia: I don't necessarily agree with hunting per se, but I don't really eat meat either, so.....but how "manly" is it to use a helicopter? I agree, it's not even hunting, who would authorize this as a sport in the first place?

21. septembra 2007, 02:51:41
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!

srnity: I don't really agree with hunting either..I know,I know..there will be posts about hunting is needed to keep the population down..ok,ok,whatever..I still do not agree with it...I think it would be more fair to give the animals guns and let them shoot back,lol.


 Hunters are not aloud to hunt from cars and trucks..that is called poaching,isn't it?? but yet a helicoter...to shoot WOLVES of all things...good goodness!!


21. septembra 2007, 02:57:36
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
anastasia: Is this a "state-wide" thing in Alaska or just certain areas condoned by certain government officials? And, what, it's too cold for the poor humans to go it on foot? Their prey has to

21. septembra 2007, 03:00:34
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
srnity: I really don't know if it is state wide...I don't think it should be allowed at all.....wolves need our protection not for us to hnt and kill them.

21. septembra 2007, 03:06:11
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
anastasia: I don't get the point in making it illegal to hunt them presently in some states to bring the populations back up and then do this in others (i.e. Alaska)?!?! Maybe if I were a cattle farmer, I'd see it differently tho, but it's hard to believe there's a huge amount of "cattle farming" in Alaska

21. septembra 2007, 04:07:15
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
srnity: so,you think they SHOULD hunt the wolves??? I am confussed from your last post,lol...sorry,I'm getting tired and I get easily confussed under GOOD circumstances,lol

21. septembra 2007, 17:22:06
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
anastasia: Even tho I don't eat meat, I understand that for some people hunting serves a purpose. There are people in my own community who hunt for a less expensive way to feed their families, other people that I know hunt for sport, but donate the meat from an animal to food service organizations, and I know that over-population of deer (for example) can devastate a harvest for some farmers. I think if an over-population of wolves is endangering someone's means of making a living, then sadly there may be a need to thin them out, but, as for an "aerial hunt", where is the sport (?) in that? I don't see animals as being equal to humans, but I do think that ALL animals have the right to be treated humanely

21. septembra 2007, 19:19:05
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: please help save the wolves!!
srnity: weren't wolves just on endangered species lists not to long ago?? I just don't see the need in hunting a wolf..here's a thought for us..how about we STOP moving our selfish selves into the animals territory and then bitching about when they become a problem for us.Now THERE'S a thought,lol.We keep taking and taking and taking the land,and then all we do is complain and kill the animals because they are being a nuecesnce (sp) or they are eating our trash,or they are killing our dogs and cats..WHERE are they suppose to go when we keep developing all the land??

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