Bernice: He's 90 married to the Queen. And has a classic British sense of humour. Something one American comedian stated is hard to understand by those outside the UK.

(V):

If that is the case he should have joined the Montyh Python crew!

Übergeek 바둑이: I think his job as HRH hubby paid better.. Plus I think he'd loved more to have been on the Goon Show

IDJIT...he is a goon....no tact is what it is....NOT HUMOUR

Oh wow...I didn't know that - married huh?

Bernice: Some are humour, some of it came from him being in the navy..some are just him being a 90 year old. Different age.

Some of this "Different age" has come to light over the remake of the Dambusters film and a dog who was called a latin name for black. Now.. it cannot be used.

It's like some Australians calling us Brits "Limeys" or thinking we eat chip butties all the time. Nobody except really sensitive people really care.

Bernice: Yep. I think no matter how changes in peoples views over marriage change (as it has) the King or Queen will have to get married. Church of England head of thingy

Artful Dodger: Weiner's a creep but I'm still waiting for David Vitter to resign since what he did was actually illegal, and hypocritical given his political platform.

Maybe the USA government needs to undo some of Raygun's gifts to the rich. Now that administration will take far more than the neo-con's are saying Obama's doing to beat Raygun's reputation as the worst Presidents of all time.. His admin will certainly take alot to beat in terms of criminal activity, corruption and blatant lying.

The secret Republicans and the Tea Party Supporters don't want you to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k71DYM20WRM&

Artful Dodger: well he's gone now LOL...resigned...

watch out what you "copy" from Google, you might get sued.....

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93775/british-student-faces-extradition-to-the-us-for-linking-to-copyrighted-material/

Why is it still so bad in some people's minds that a person has to lose their job if they are in public office and have sexual desires

.. If the same rule applied to the private sector... then directors, etc would be falling at the rate of ten a penny. But business doesn't seem to care, as being human seems to be a recognised condition and separate to how good you can run a business.

Tuesday: So those Christian funde's are going for more PR are they. Hasn't the case come to the Supreme court yet banning such action!! Or is the poor excuse of free speech going to run over peoples rights to have a peaceful funeral respecting America's war dead yet again!!

Tuesday: So.... ???

Don't members of the public mess up their marriages, have open relationships.. swinging parties and other events... as in some places prostitution is legal.

Are these serving people formally members of the public? So why if the public can be human do we expect politicians, etc to be robots?

(V): I agree that if you've done nothing illegal, there's no reason to just up and resign your position. It's up to your constituants to vote your butt out for being an immoral creeper! If you've broken the law (ahem, Vitter) you should be thrown out of public office. Taxpayers shouldn't pay the salaries of criminals.

lizrising: “Diaper Dave” was forgiven and re-elected because if he stepped down the Republicans would lose a seat of power to a Democrat!!

Is David Duke being asked to run for pres by the Tea party as he claims?

I ask this about David Duke as it would be strange to have a President automatically banned from certain countries due to his views on the Holocaust.

I imagine him being a KKK member and a believer in ....

"With the above understanding of nations and States, we Whites can examine our own situation better. Phrasing our position in terms of the basic nationalist arguments, one can state that we Whites are a nation, that the interests and values of that nation take priority over all others and that we must be as independent as possible. Therefore, we must embark on a program leading towards greater sovereignty and security for our nation. We must not let ANY government impose policies and programs that are harmful to our nation's interests."

.. will cause some problems when it comes to diplomatic relations with other countries.

Btw.. I think he hates Jewish people as well.. is this guy considered racist in the USA or just some neo nazi crackpot?

Tuesday: Then it should have been left as a private matter. Between him and his missus and any relevant family.

If we went by a rule that everyone who strays and is in public office has to resign.. Does that mean teachers, the bin men, police officers, etc all have to quit?

(V):

> If we went by a rule that everyone who strays and is in public office has to resign.. Does that mean teachers, the bin men, police officers, etc all have to quit?

What about those who work for private companies but are paid contracts by taxpayers?

For example, the roof leaks in a government-owned building. The government hires a roofing contractor to fix that roof and the contractor is paid with tax dollars. The contractor does the same thing as Weiner did. Should that contractor be sacked and scrutinized publicly?

Another example. A "security contractor" is hired by the CIA to do some work among terrorists in Afghanistan. This contractor turns out to do what Weiner did. Should that contractor be ridiculed publicly and sacked?

What about a CIA operative doing a sensitive intelligence matter? If his identity is revealed publicly it would jeopardize an intelligence operation. He goes on to do what Weiner did. Should that person be scrutinized publicly?

There are a lot of examples of this. Many private companies are paid millions of dollars in contracts. Some of these companies do multi-billion dollar projects paid for by taxpayers. If the CEO of one of those companies uses his money and position to become a philanderer, should he be scrutinized publicly and sacked? After all, that CEO will make millions at taxpayers expense.

Tuesday:

> Are they out campaigning with a different face?

No, they are tendering contracts and getting paid with tax dollars. The difference is that they are not in the public eye like politicians are. Private contractors can get away with it because they are never elected into office, they don't need to give public speeches, and they are not held to the same level of accountability as politicians are. If a banker receives a huge bailout, and uses that bailout money for his own self-gratification, there is no accountability. But politicians are a different matter. People expect them to be "righteous", to always tell the truth, to always be honest, to respect women, etc. But those who make millions in tax payer dollars do not have such expectation thrust upon them. It is a double standard.

Artful Dodger:

> He was well liked and effective. He is a smooth operator!

Like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Ahnuld was the beloved of the masses. when he was elected governor, a woman sued him for sexual harrassment, then a lot of women came forward. But nobody cared. Now we know he is the proud father of his maid's son. And still people love Arnie in spite of it all.

Artful Dodger:

> Interesting that it doesn't happen to women in politics but it does with some women in education (like all those female teachers having sex with their students).

I doubt that female teachers are worse than male teachers. The difference is that in the public eye a male teacher having sex with a female student is considered a terrible thing. A philandering male teacher is seen as a creep and a low life.

A female teacher having sex with a male student is treated in more sensationalistic and voyeuristic terms. She will be the subject of TV specials, psychological analysis in newspapers, and tabloid reports. The male student will not necessarily be treated as a victim of a predator, but rather as a misguided teen in trouble. Female readers of the story will wonder: "Was it true love?" Male readers will wonder "What if it I had been that kid? It might have been kinda fun." Self-righteous readers will say "How immoral!" And more vulgar readers will say "What a cougar!"

Artful Dodger:

> Politics isn't like that. It's about the power. It's weak to resign. Most politicians are addicted to power so resigning isn't part of their makeup. Some do resign, but most don't. They just ride out the storm. Then people forget.

The difference with big private contractors is that instead of power, it is money, and since they are not in the public eye, nobody even finds out what they are up to. We never hear: "This guy makes rifles for the military, rakes in millions, and is a philanderer. He should resign!" Instead, the rich CEO takes his money, enjoys his life, makes strategic campaign contributions, and continues on in his ways. For him there is no storm to ride. People don't need to forget his wrongdoings, because they never knew them in the first place.

Artful Dodger:

I am talking about big powerful men that are not in the public eye. Like politicians, they get paid with tax dollars, but they are exempt from public scrutiny. We live in a wolrd of hypocrysy and double standards, that is all. Taxpayers don't care as long as they don't know about it.

... If everyone who had an affair was banned from office..

Why was McCain running for President?

Hypocrisy... Bill O'Reilly... affair... Rush Limbaugh... drug addiction.

Übergeek 바둑이: Bilderberg group baby, Bilderberg group

John Smith started the day early having set his



alarm clock


(MADE IN JAPAN )
for 6 am.



While his

coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)


was perking, he shaved with his

electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)


He put on a

dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI-LANKA),



designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE)


and

tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA)


After cooking his breakfast in his new


electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)



he sat down with his

calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)


to see how much he could spend today.

After setting his

watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN)


to the

radio
(MADE IN INDIA)


he got in his

car

(MADE IN GERMANY)


filled it with

GAS

(from Saudi Arabia)

and continued his search

for a good paying AUSTRALIAN JOB.


At the end of yet another discouraging


and fruitless day

checking his

Computer

(made in MALAYSIA),


John decided to relax for a while.


He put on his

sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),


poured himself a glass of

wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his

TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),


and then wondered why he can't

find a good paying job


in AUSTRALIA


AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT WHO ARE GOING TO CREATE EVEN MORE JOBS OVERSEAS WITH A CARBON TAX DESIGNED TO DESTROY EVEN MORE AUSTRALIAN JOBS BECAUSE ITS IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST


LEAD BY A PRIME MINISTER MADE IN WALES

Artful Dodger:

Of course, oil companies make no money at all when we use a lot of energy from fossil fuels. Then car exhaust fumes are perfectly harmless. As are fumes coming out of factories.

The reality is that the problem is not the carbon footprint, or carbon emissions. The problem is that we consume without measure, and we waste without measure. Many people try to recycle, use less, drive less, etc. But it is not enough because profits that drive consumes capitalism drive mass production, and that drives pollution in the form of carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, ozone, ozone-destroying substances, etc.

The carbon tax is a very inefficient way to regulate the problem. What it is saying is that the consumer should pay more for products according to how much carbon dioxide is produced by those products and their manufacturing process.

Instead they should give tax credits to companies that invest in the reduction of pollution. If the capital gains tax runs at a certain percentage, that percentage should be much lower for companies that can prove that they have reduced the pollution produced during manufaturing, use and disposal of a product. In that way more of the capital would remain in the hands of companied that pollute less as opposed to those that pollute more.

There should be no "carbon credit trading" of any kind, because that simply encourages companies that pollute a lot to buy credits from those that pollute less. Companies that pollute more can simply buy their way out of the problem, rather than have an incentive to improve the manufacturing and design of their products.

Well, capitalism is all about profit and the legislators that are trying to address the problems of pollution have only one objective in mind: to make sure that the capitalists keep getting rich, whether by reducing pollution, or keeping it as it is.

> And what's wrong with carbon anyway? Nothing.

Would you breathe the exhaust fumes from a car? Would you move your family next to a big factory with a huge smoke stack bathing your house in carbon dioxide? And when carbon is released into the atmosphere, where does it go? Our atmosphere is a relatively closed system and gases released there stay there for a long time. I think that presuming that the problem is global warming is not quite accurate. The problem is one of generalized pollution and the effects it has on human health and the plants and animals. It is foolish to think that carbon dioxide is "harmless". If it were, people would have no problem breathing the exahust fumes coming out of their cars.

One scheme in London involves the recycling of cooking oil from various restaurants and fast food places and conversion into bio diesel.

The Taxi drivers like it as it's cheaper then normal diesel.. the sewer cleaners like it.. less fat poured down the drains causing hard fat blockages that need manual cleaning. In the end if all used oil in London was recycled it'd be enough to run ALL the Taxi's in London.

If it was all collected.. the only consideration would be... is the oil all mixed up.. or the various flavours kept separate.

eg Chinese, Indian, Fish n' Chips.....

(V): whoopee doodle...oil is recycled here as well......nothing new.