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Subjekt: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
Artful Dodger: I know enough of chemistry to know that you cannot pollute or add to a closed environment (as in the atmosphere is covered by a vacuum) ....and have no effect.
Subjekt: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): Here's a fact for you: 97% to 98% of climate researchers (if not more) are paid by the government and climate interest groups to support and to advance the global warming hypothesis and, guess what, they do.
The claim that climate change is human caused is based solely on speculative theories. Warming modeling predictions are unproven and flawed. AND, many (if not most) of those scientists that promote the man-made global warming scenario earn their living ONLY if they hold to their global warming positions. hmmmmmm
S. Fred Singer, former director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service and University of Virginia professor emeritus commented about these sorry circumstances stating in part:
"Many would place the beginning of the global warming hoax on the Senate testimony delivered by James Hansen of NASA [director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies] during the summer of 1988. More than anything else, this exhibition of hyped alarm triggered my active skepticism about the man-made global warming scare. This skepticism was amplified when I acted as reviewer of the first three IPCC reports, in 1990, 1996, and 2001. Increasingly claims were made for which there was no evidence; in some cases the 'evidence' was clearly manufactured. For example, the 1966 report used selective data and doctored graphs. It also featured changes in the text that were made after the scientists had approved it and before it was printed."
Another lie claims that there is a consensus among climate scientists that a known man-made global warming crisis exists. Official statements to the contrary presented by more than 650 international climate-related experts who presented contrary official testimony recorded in a 2008 U.S. Senate minority report suggest otherwise. So do petitions signed by more than 30,000 scientists that have challenged IPCC's 1995 procedures and report representations. Those circumstances prompted Dr. Frederick Seitz, former president of the U.S. Academy of Sciences, the American Physical Society, and Rockefeller University to write in The Wall Street Journal: "I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer review process than events that led to this IPCC report."
Zmenené užívateľom Vikings (8. októbra 2011, 21:23:42)
Where is the outcry from the leftist here about greed, scientist would lie costing every man woman and child on this planet trillions, simply for their own greed?
oh thats right, because this greed promotes socialism and leftist getting rich
Subjekt: Re:I know enough of chemistry to know that you cannot pollute or add to a closed environment (as in the atmosphere is covered by a vacuum) ....and have no effect.
(V): In other words, man made global warming is true because you own a car???
Subjekt: Re:97% to 98% of climate researchers (if not more) are paid by the government and climate interest groups to support and to advance the global warming hypothesis
Artful Dodger: You do have some proof of this? Some article or leak from an reputable source >>> not like Bush and his Fake WMD's <<<
As for Al Gore... that means everyone else is wrong because a politician beefed things up... Like those old WWII films stating the good old USA won the war purely by being the USA!!
Golly. How many politicians beef things up.... Or like with Palin stating that she ain't decided on whether she's running or not and please donate.
But her Daughter leaked by accident that she does know, it is decided.
Subjekt: Re: Where is the outcry from the leftist here about greed, scientist would lie
Vikings: Right.. that makes no sense whatsoever. Inherent in my statement was the matter of all the propaganda you in America have been fed through out the cold war.
... hence "duped"
Business and a bought government (whichever side .. Dems or Repubs) that has been generated and fed to you guys since before you were born.. .. probably.
In the history of candidates, Obama has taken MORE contributions from Wall Street than ANYONE ELSE! And yet the lemmings in OWS are for Obama, and against his support network? How "duh" is that???
Subjekt: Re: I'm going to make fun of your 97, 97 times.
(V): By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
BTW, even the study you have used to claim this inflated 97% is both unscientific and flawed. So even if you repeat it 97 times, it will still be a bogus claim.
And I shouldn't even call it a study as that isn't accurate either. A limited survey is more like it. Very limited. The "study" Jules is using EXCLUDED a huge number of climatologists and other scientists. Much like surveying ONLY CONSERVATIVES on an issue and using the data to generalize the position of a populace.
Subjekt: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
Artful Dodger: Then... to play a level field no scientists can be used here. HAHAHAHA
Got the scientific knowledge to back up and make a claim proving climate change is wrong?
Subjekt: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
(V): Don't get it do you. The "study" you're using is flawed. It excluded input from many scientists. Hardly a balanced study. Easy to conclude that the "findings" were intended to lean in a particular direction.
Subjekt: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
Subjekt: Re: By your own argument, those scientists should be disqualified from consideration since they are supported by monies from those that benifit from the global warming hoax.
(V): Your numbers are wrong. It's NOT 97 - 3. Get current.
Earlier ... a group of prominent scientists came forward to question the so-called “consensus” that the Earth faces a “climate emergency.” On April 6, 2006, 60 scientists wrote a letter to the Canadian Prime Minister asserting that the science is deteriorating from underneath global warming alarmists.
“Observational evidence does not support today's computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future…Significant [scientific] advances have been made since the [Kyoto] protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary,” the 60 scientists wrote.
Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.
The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists, the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007.
Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists. In October, the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking." Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears "bite the dust."
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