Übergeek 바둑이: Okay, I can see now why you might not understand my point. My bad.

If your own sense of morality doesn't come from God, it would have to come from something else. If there is no God and everything we have is owed to evolution, then it follows that whatever sense of morality we have would have neccessarily been derived from eons of evolutionary development.

I've sudied evolution, so I know what the forces are that enable simple organisms to change into increasingly complex ones, the primary one being whatever change that brings about an advantage to survival.

Morality does not play any part in this, as it implies a higher responsibily to a creator who, in the mind of the evolutionist, either does not exist or only exists in some far away place, and does not intervene in our affairs.

This is already getting too long, so I'll stop here and ask you why it even matters what people do or don't do, since survival of the fittest has nothing to do with right or wrong. The concept of right and wrong are MORAL precepts. Not evolutionary precepts. According to evolution, there is no such thing as right and wrong, only what works for you and what doesn't.

The condratiction in your argument, which I admit is based on an assumption of your own particular world view, is evident in how your own sense of morality finds it wrong that anyone should own a weapon for ANY reason.

If I'm wrong about what you believe (about God or about evolution) then I appologize for assuming too much. Of course, then you WOULD be a phonie and a fake for suggesting you actually care one way or the other about Christian principles.

I'm sure you will suggest that neither is right, and that there is some middle ground here.. can't wait to hear it.