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23. septembra 2004, 23:46:20
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: A mind reading trick

23. septembra 2004, 23:52:34
Chessmaster1000 
Subjekt: Re: A mind reading trick
??????????
Is this a joke right?

23. septembra 2004, 23:55:11
Grim Reaper 
I KNEW you would say that :)

24. septembra 2004, 00:31:52
Chessmaster1000 
This is easy:

White to checkmate black King with a Pawn at move 6.
There are billions of different ways..........

24. septembra 2004, 00:33:49
bwildman 
Subjekt: Chessmaster
you lost me...what are you referring to?

24. septembra 2004, 00:46:26
bwildman 
"this is easy....."
the post under mine.

24. septembra 2004, 00:54:56
Chessmaster1000 
Oh, i meant if you can find a way, so that white will checkmate black King with a Pawn at move 6. (We call it a helpmate at 6 for White)

And as i said there are trillions of different ways..........

24. septembra 2004, 03:06:48
Grim Reaper 
you need to read the directions. it is not a checkmate problem. Look at any number on the grid, then look at the piece below it, and the "crystal ball" will read your mind and tell you what you are looking at.

24. septembra 2004, 04:47:20
redsales 
that would be some trick if those symbols were randomized :)

24. septembra 2004, 09:43:33
WhiteTower 
OK, here's where it shows if you all paid attention at maths in school :)

Any two-digit number can be constructed by our familiar decimal digits 0-9 as follows:

10xA+B, where A, B any decimal digits.

What Ed asks us to do is take away the sum of the two digits, i.e. A+B. So we are left with:

10xA+B - (A+B) = 9xA

Just look at all the positions divisible by 9 - all the same symbol, which also appears at the end of each cycle inside the crystal ball...

No, redsales, only 88% of the table is randomized ;)

24. septembra 2004, 09:48:13
redsales 
Whitetower, exactly! Of course when I said randomized, I meant the "hook" symbols. The others, as you know, are window dressing and inconsequential to Ed's miraculous ability to read my mind :)

24. septembra 2004, 09:48:15
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Yes.. the little 9'ers
they work wonders! LOL

24. septembra 2004, 10:44:20
Chessmaster1000 
Subjekt: Ed....
Zmenené užívateľom Chessmaster1000 (24. septembra 2004, 10:46:06)
<>you need to read the directions. it is not a checkmate problem. Look at any number on the grid, then >look at the piece below it, and the "crystal ball" will read your mind and tell you what you are looking at.

I knew that of course. I would be a complete idiot if i thought it is a checkmate problem. I just set up another problem....

Except the fact that the same symbol appears at every number that it's divisible by 9, does any other pattern for the appearance of the pieces exists? As i see the distribution of the pieces is not totally random and in fact it is not random at all. I think the pieces appear each time with the same analogy. But anyway it doesn't matter much.........

24. septembra 2004, 15:17:36
Grim Reaper 
well, I thought it was interesting :)

24. septembra 2004, 18:26:15
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: Death of Jestone
Reported by Malcolm in the BrainKing board.

Jestone

23. September 2004, 15:54:20
Just to let you know that Terry aka TTrotter and Jestone from El Salvador has passed away on 18 September, 2004. Those of you who knew him will miss his great sportmanship. Peace and best wishes to his family.

24. septembra 2004, 18:39:23
Grim Reaper 
Terry was nice enough to send me a postcard from his country telling me how much he liked Gothic Chess. He said he would play me one day "when he got better", but I told him to invite me at his leisure. We never did actually cross swords, but I was thankful he did send me that postcard. I received several from around that world that I showed to candidate investors from time to time, all of which had some sort of note about how much they liked the game.

I know you are a superior player now Terry, so if you want a game, here is my move.

1. d4

I offer a draw.

24. septembra 2004, 20:30:35
bwildman 
Subjekt: In honor of a great player and sportsman..
Remembering Jestone
Gothic Chess tourny.All are invited.

25. septembra 2004, 10:26:44
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
Subjekt: A simple homage
I had the pleasure of playing Terry Trotter in several games of Gothic, Loop, Fortress, and Janus chess. Terry was friendly, kind, and patient with a novice like me. He never made me wait for weeks to make a move and he always had something nice and interesting to say. If I can pay homage to him I will say that we should remember him like this: "He was a darn good player."

I have joined the tournament in his memory, I hope to play with all of you there.

25. septembra 2004, 13:12:23
redsales 
Terry was a very special person. This comes as a shock..and his web pages are down too. Amazing what things we take for granted. i will play in that tourney, it's all I can do to show respect.

26. septembra 2004, 03:57:24
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Hey!! you all are smart!!
I need help fast!!!
Who is good with astronomy and equations?? I have been struggling now for the last several hours trying to get my homework done!! It is due in four hours.. and it deals with Kepler's Third Law M = a3/T2

26. septembra 2004, 04:03:19
Caissus 
Subjekt: Re: Hey!! you all are smart!!
The solution is easy,Scarlett: You must move the chancellor from j4 to a4 and the archbishop from d1 to d8 :-).

26. septembra 2004, 04:05:32
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re: Hey!! you all are smart!!
UUUGgggg!! so funny are you!! LOL

I am stressing here!! hehe..

26. septembra 2004, 05:04:08
ChessCarpenter 
Subjekt: Re: Hey!! you all are smart!!
Zmenené užívateľom ChessCarpenter (26. septembra 2004, 05:07:59)
Maybe this site can help ya lass!
Kepler's 3rd Law

26. septembra 2004, 05:50:44
Grim Reaper 
1. Convert your a.u. distances to meters.
2. Convert your orbital duration into seconds, mindful that 24x60x60 = 86400 seconds per day.
3. T squared (in seconds) over R cubed (in meters) is your answer for the mass.

26. septembra 2004, 06:43:43
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re: Thankies.. you two..
I really do appreciate all your help! ;)

27. septembra 2004, 20:05:27
ChessCarpenter 
Subjekt: BrainKing Gothic Chess Championship
Who here is a section or tournament winner of the BrainKing Gothic Chess Championship?

27. septembra 2004, 20:45:05
bwildman 
I think I am.

27. septembra 2004, 23:42:00
Caissus 
Subjekt: Grotesque Chess
the unpatented alternative to Gothic Chess at "Chessvariants.com".Here is the link

28. septembra 2004, 03:57:35
Grim Reaper 
Thanks, I will sue that site for slander/libel. Typical awards for this type of abuse net plaintiffs about $100,000 or more.

Thanks! Woo hoo! More free money for me!

28. septembra 2004, 05:53:57
ughaibu 
Thanks Caissus, that certainly knocks any further crap about licencing fees on the head.

28. septembra 2004, 06:13:15
Grim Reaper 
Yeah, the licensing fee was $1 per year. I can see why they are so upset.

28. septembra 2004, 07:02:19
ughaibu 
And I can see what so enraptures you about "free money".

28. septembra 2004, 07:51:00
Fencer 
EdTrice: With full respect to your patent, I seriously doubt you can win such a lawsuit.

28. septembra 2004, 07:56:07
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: With full due respect..
Does this mean I can write a story and just change the wittle words.. (but, not change the meaning or the plot of it).. and not be sued. Cause I would think it is the same thing.. Or are laws different in other countries?

28. septembra 2004, 08:17:11
Caissus 
Subjekt: Re: With full due respect..
I think you can ,but is not the same,Scarlett. If you read the site exactly you can see that there are different similar variants before GC was patented.Moreover the laws indeed are different in other countries.

28. septembra 2004, 08:47:46
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: Re:
This is not about the patent, it is about slander.

My name is "all over" that page like I am 'the bad guy'. I offered them a license for $1 per year, and they invented some fictional account of their own persecution.

Attorneys loves cases like this, because they are so easy to win, and the offenders will lose so much money.

28. septembra 2004, 09:07:35
ughaibu 
Is it a talking site?

28. septembra 2004, 13:33:18
Chessmaster1000 
I really don't like these kind of wars about Gothic Chess. It seems people don't like the idea of patening a game. Neither i, but a law is a law and we have to support the laws in order to have a balance and some peace in our life.

As for this new variation of Grotesque Chess, i don't think it violates the patent at all. Also i don't find anything bad that could be used as an accusation for the Chessvariants site. Perhaps is just me, as i doesn't care about any accusations.

But really, why people should always have to argue and fight about something. Why they can't agree?

Unfortunately these kind of disagreements don't promote Gothic Chess and it's really a shame as this game deserves to become as popular as Chess.

28. septembra 2004, 13:43:42
Chessmaster1000 
Subjekt: Michael Tal at Gothic Chess.........
If you wonder who would be the best player at Gothic Chess the answer is simple: MICHAEL TAL!

If G.Kasparov, R.Fischer or J.R.Capablanca would have a 2800 at Gothic Chess then it is sure that M.Tal would definitely have a 3200!

Since Gothic Chess offers 3 major pieces,2 rooks and 4 other minor pieces, the attackes and sacrifices are endless. They happen 4-5 times more frequently that Chess. I'm too dissapointed that M.TAl isn't here. He would have shown us millions of beautiful attacks and startling sacrifices. I doubt that he would lose one single game. The man was sacrificing material everytime at Chess. At Gothic Chess would be the worst nightmare of any player.

28. septembra 2004, 15:53:57
Grim Reaper 
My attorneys are taking care of it all, that's what I pay them to do. Fergus, the author of the page, will be served with legal documents today, requesting his presence in a court in Philadelphia. His attorney will advise him to change the content of that web page drastically, or take it down altogether.

Keep watching that web page.

28. septembra 2004, 16:01:24
ughaibu 
Subjekt: Purple
How about a book on the accuracy of Gothic's predictions?

28. septembra 2004, 16:16:28
Purple 
Subjekt: Re: Purple
Ed is a near genius who has fallen into the trap of continually doublng his bets trying to get even. Even if all the bluster were to come true it would endear him to nobody but, unlike me, he can't seem to change his ways. LOL.

28. septembra 2004, 16:18:41
bwildman 
I'm going to be sick!

28. septembra 2004, 16:23:00
Purple 
Subjekt: Re:
Not sick enough :)

28. septembra 2004, 16:29:28
bwildman 
Subjekt: power..
I'm trying to decide which is more valuable. a queen vs chancelor,or maybe archbishop? or can the 2(archbishop/chancelor) prevail without a queen?

28. septembra 2004, 16:39:03
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re: power..
The Queen is B.. She always is.. :)

and no.. the archi guy.. or chance cannot prevail without her..


The powers of a woman.. *Giggle*

28. septembra 2004, 16:53:31
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: power..
so,your saying the king,queen combination is greater than the king,archbishop,and chancelor combination?

28. septembra 2004, 16:54:41
Grim Reaper 
Subjekt: Grotesque Chess Changed
Zmenené užívateľom Grim Reaper (28. septembra 2004, 17:06:37)
If you go to http://www.chessvariants.org/large.dir/grotesque.

html or click here you will see there is no mention of Gothic Chess or my name anywhere on the "Grotesque Chess" page.

So, Purple, what were you saying?

He was given the option to remove the slander, remove all mention of circumventing my patent, remove "gothic chess", all 15 instances, get it done by noon (giving him 3 hours) or he would come to court and be judged.

Looks like this person was the "genius" Purple, because anyone who enters a courtroom with me is stupid.

You think I always win at Gothic Chess? Try me in the legal system. I am a "Grandmaster".

28. septembra 2004, 17:04:32
ughaibu 
Subjekt: Gothic
I think he was saying you're a first rate prat.

28. septembra 2004, 19:20:44
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Re: power..
B.. I was being sarcastic..

Even in regular chess.. the Queen is a strong one.. the king.. so limited yet the main focus of capture..

In Gothic.. the archbishop and Chancelor are rather strong players.. Just as the Queen is.. Although, I still prefer to save my Queen due to her unlimited straight and diagonal moves..

This is just my opinion though.. for I am no master player.. nor do I have time to really sit and study chess or the variants soley.. I just play for fun.. '

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