SL-Mark: I think it would be good if it got changed. It's not fair to those who don't know it and even if you know you can forget it. How do others feel about it? Should we make a request?

I just assumed everyone knew this,I'm sure others will chime in but it was always something I bore in mind when making moves of that nature for many years now.Even if it is changed now it would be hard for me personally to break the habit of ALWAYS taking the recon first

SL-Mark:

I would consider it a bug and think it should be changed. I wouldn't expect it to be a difficult change (I suspect they need to update certain properties for individual piece moves and then again at the completion of all piece moves and the 'identified' flag is getting set in the first check instead of the second), but it should at least be documented somewhere obvious in the mean time.

I never knew the issue existed at IYT or here until now.

Celticjim: I hadn't realised that. It does explain all my defeats. :)

I can't be the only one, as dAGGER too has just fallen foul of this.

Do you suggest we leave it as it is, or get it changed (if possible) so it doesn't matter the piece movement order with a move

SL-Mark:

Nice find.

This is news to me, but I will keep it in mind.

dAGGER: Yes our game. I did leave you a message saying that your piece on g4 is now revealed!

SL-Mark:
I don't think it's a bug Mark.This was well documented on IYT where the same thing happened.

SL-Mark:
Did this happen in our game?
I'm taken notes about my unrevealed pieces!

Just to let you all know, I have just reported a bug in one of my games.
If you make a move that captures a recon and in that same move, also move a '?' that would touch this recon, ensure that you take the recon first, otherwise the '?' will be revealed as it was seen before it was taken, even though it is the same move!

happy hermit: If a man has so many identities, what does it count one more in addition?

dAGGER: I think the clues are there for anyone to figure it out, but the short version is that happy hermit = quiet man = argyle socks = Eric Hanson etc.. I change my account every time I change computers. And I am no relation to jonaron . :)

SL-Mark:

Stand and fight? It seems I have little choice. :)

happy hermit:
I followed all the thread about the identities of jonaron and quite man.
I'm afraid only people coming from IYT may read that.
Maybe someone should explain other players who really is quite man............

SL-Mark:
don't worry! I never make disguises in Open Fast.....
That "?" in F3 is exactly what it seems.......

happy hermit: I have so many disguises, I am having trouble following them all. Perhaps you should stand and fight, and uncover them for yourself

dAGGER: Yes, whilst all my disguises are wearing thin against you, that '?' you have on F3 has not been tested yet

SL-Mark:

Learning when to put to on the disguise and hide is the first step. Learning when to take it off and fight is the next step. :)

SL-Mark:
in Italy we don't paint our face and we wear our usual shoes, but if we want to make a disguise you will not realize it in time!
;-)

Chaos: Like all aspiring espionagers, just practicing the art of disguise and blending in with the back ground. In Scotland, wear a kilt and paint your face blue, in Holland wear wooden shoes and ride a bike; now you are prepared to deploy some subterfuge.
Just like that undetected '1' pretending to be a '5'

SL-Mark: I thought Dutch was my territory here  You're taking the wind out of my sails! Do all the Scots speak Dutch and wear wooden shoes nowadays or is it just you?

Chaos: That breaks my wooden shoe

Chaos: Nou breekt mijn klomp!

SL-Mark: Why didn't anyone tell me about this proverb before?!

Nothingness: Ah, thank you. That's because I practice the Dutch proverb: "An ounce of patience is worth a pound of brains." Patience being an important virtue of any exercise in espionage :)

SL-Mark: Sorry to hear that Mark but you sure play like you have brains!

Celticjim: Me too

SL-Mark: LOL I was surprised to find I had some

Celticjim: Disappointingly, I have no brains!

small fast tourny I just signed up for
30 brains entry
anyone interested
ALL GAMES 30 BRAINS ENTRY

Chaos: got it, thanks for the help

Sir Lance-a-lot: Welcome at BrainKing Sir Lance-a-lot, good to see you here! :) The interface here at BrainKing is quite different and takes some time to get used to. Here they call Sabotage 'Espionage' and they have the same variants, except for the corner variant.

Chaos, this is Lance-a-lot. What's the difference in this website and the games on IYT? I'd like to play a game with anyone who's up for it?

Chaos:

jonaron and I have played a few times.

In League events, we played Open in Season 6 (I won) and Season 8 (a draw). We also played Mini in a Speed Rush event. I forget the event, but he won our individual game.

And, we have played in some random IYT tournies over the years with pretty even results.

Of course, as you so accurately put it, "careful when it matters" starts at Move 1 with jonaron so he gets a different version of my game that almost anyone else. :)

SL-Mark:

I don't know about 'worth studying', but to tie it back to another recent thread . . .if someone plays slow enough we are both a risk to time-out. In the past that was only an effective strategy against me (and sometimes against Jozsef). If it now works against jonaron it may catch on with more people. :)

Chaos: You are doing a fantastic job.

I was trying to shrewdly compliment you by suggesting that your approach was judicious and diplomatic, favoured traits of a moderator. Referring to our recent game and your ruthless annihilation of myself, I was hinting that there are also some sharp claws and teeth behind the ball of fur. I am sure however, that neither Eric nor myself, would have to face the Chaos Creature.

Although an attempt to create some light hearted banter, there is a serious note in Eric’s original posting, which is that both Jonaron’s and Quiet Man’s playing styles are worth studying.

Naturally we will support you.

happy hermit: So if you all get into fighting and screaming it's just a conspiracy to see how I react? ;)

happy hermit: Evidently as seriously as she takes her game of espionage, though she is not so diplomatic in her games, in fact quite ruthless as she recently demonstrated to me!

SL-Mark:

I was just testing how seriously Chaos was taking her new job here.

happy hermit: I believe you have just been judiciously "moderated" for your mischievousness

Chaos:

I'm not jonaron, I was just making a small joke about jonaron's increasing proclivity for timing-out. :)

SL-Mark:

At least it was something I could reply to . . . how can I reply to a comment about language skill from someone that's been so wronged by the language that he abuses it so? :)

happy hermit: I was throwing in one other into the equation and also to tease another ;)

SL-Mark: I think both are pretty good . . .it's just that the game gives one of them a headache. :)

no not the same person. Jonaron AKA ( Lightningbolt) his english is not as good as Quietmans. Jonaron is from canada and i think is French Canadian.

happy hermit: Yes, but one seems to be good at extinction chess the other not

jonaron and quiet man have extremely similar playing styles and both seem to time out a lot.

Has anyone considered that they might be the same person?