obviously a lot of people do not read this board, judging by the variety of bets.

Now the fun starts.

First round was some-what simple since I knew others were unsure about the rules.

Second round was easy since I only had to bid 1 to make it by.

Now the third round is going to be interesting. Still way too many players to bid too high, but can't bid too low either.....

Yes.

I presume Cassius got the 500 for betting highest of 4000?
Can the person who gets the 500 have their bet shown in red or something so its obvious at a glance who got it ?

Yes, lower the points that everyone starts with. Why not just 1,000 and not even have a bonus for the person that picks the highest? Or 20,000 : 500 as 1,000 : 40. Make the bonus for high pick 47!
That should speed the game up without changing the play too much. Right now I'm trying to imagine different scenarios towards the end of the game. Especially as people start getting getting under 500 points. If it's 700 to 330 to 141 to 50 to 33 to 10, how do you think the game will go? The person with 700 can just bet 331 on the next round guaranteeing 500 points for a net gain of 169. Everyone else will have less points, plus one of them will be in the pond. The person that had 700, now has 869 and can follow the same strategy as picking one point more than the second place player and the game will end eventually with him being the winner. Everyone playing will know this is going to happen and won't feel like going through the motions. Big flaw if it goes down like that.
I hope at the end of the game the players with the lead are close to each other. The problem with the bonus points won't really be apparent until everyone but one player is under the bonus amount. So, perhaps in a later version of the game, the bonus amount could be varied during the game to reflect the mathematics of the game itself or just eliminated.
What will make it interesting is if three or more people are just over the bonus amount and try to psyche out what the other close players might be planning on betting. They could all bet a small amount, in which case some other player might get the bonus and join them among the leaders, or one or more of them might bet lots while one bets small to save his points.

Yes, this game is tougher than it looks and the rules have a lot to do with which strategy to try depending on the score and who're your opponents.

If this game becomes one that us members (Paying or not) can create, I propose making it possible for the game creator to be able to set the parameters for starting points and bonuses(if any), along with the usual things like days per move and minimum and maximum players.

LOL, I didn't even notice the red numbers. Guess I was lucky.

I too missed out as well, believing that it was going to show up as one of my games. :( I guess next time we'll know..

I did click on the link and all it gave me was the list. I was diligently watching for the game to start. I am on the site everyday...maybe it is just a bug...oh well...:)

Is it just me that is surpised by the range of chosen number? I would have expected maybe a cpouple of clumps... very low numbers , very high numbers....but there is a very wide spread all across the board

good point

I'm not sure, but I'd say e.g. a game with 50 runners will last for 49 rounds, no matter whether they start with 5.000 or 200.000 points, as long as there will be only one fall into the pond per round. ;-)

may I suggest for speed of play starting with 5000 points instead of 20000, and a bonus of 100 points instead of 500

You couldnt click on the red one but rather the actual game link that was at the top of the game page. If you cant find anything on it now Youbet it is likely because you missed out and are now in the pond? Not sure maybe the guys who know more about it can respond better?

You need to click the link instead of the number. Don't give up, the next game should have more of the bugs cleared up :)

I saw the red number 1, but couldn't click on it. The same thing happened to me that happened to scooter. There was no notice of the game starting, I have nothing on my game board to show I am even in it and when I go the the game link, I can't do anything.

Thre was a red number 1 by the game for two days until you play the game that stays there (top of the game list) sorry you missed it

I never got notice this game started or anything. This never came up on my games list. Was this posted someplace?? I just checked this game today and noticed I was "in the pond"... never even got a chance to play!! Damn...

First of all I did not delibertly not carry out your wishes.... As you can see, I began edeting my posts at 12:44 PM est. I got kicked off line for a bit when I got a phone call unfortunatly I cant be online and on the phone at the same time) As soon as posible afterward, I returned online and continued my editing, and as all can see I was still editing 16 seconds 13:07:40 pm est before Stevie hid me at 13:07:56 pm est....

I dont think it was fair and I was singled out, and even after explaining all this to Stevie in a PM, he said I was still hid just to remind me not to use words like ignorant to describe someone who does not know the rules of a game. (I think it is the perfect way to describe someone who doesnt know something myself) What kind of censorship is that?

nyway, the only place I did leave those words were where I used them to apologize to anyone offended by me using those words to describe them.... what is wrong with that? Not to Mention that there are still several others in here who have used the same words and have not been hidden or edited.




I just want freedom and justice for all, not just a select few.

24hr hide for Czuch chuckers as of now...for deliberately not carrying out my wishes .

Thanks. :-)

yes you do see, the rules are nearly the same

Oh, I obviously don't see. Does it mean that the rules are (nearly) the same, the lowest bidder is out of the game, the highest bidder get the bonus and that the only difference (if any) is that the second lower bidder is the brave?

no, right now in the game 500 points is not worth it, you would have to spend more than 500 to get it, if someone can get the 500 point bonus without spending 500 points, then they would make a wise move

Oh, I see. Does it mean that the 500 points bonus get the brave with the lowest bid?

guts means brave, who is brave enough to bet 3 in the first round? Me

Vikings: Thanks. -- Would you please explain it so that I can it understand it with my low English level? :-)

Btw, I've placed the Ponds link to the main menu, so when a new move is to be done, nobody should miss the red number again :-)

Bad Biship, same game, it's just who has the guts to bid low

I didn't say choosing 1 was wise, but over 50 people chose less than you and are still here

Its a new game, its all trial and error to begin with, this does not reflect on a person's intelligence level.

Not really Viking..... you still havent given me any logical reason why choosing 3 was anything but a lucky play?

edited to change the number 1 to number 3

Vikings: Would you please tell us more about the Guts?

Chuck, a bid of three is why the version of the game I played before was called "Guts". Think of it in those terms before you call people names that played the game, so far, better than you.

Sorry Thad, if I remove them...the conversation will be a tad weird, So I think as you have requested this...hopefully Upchuck will go through all his posts and remove the unnecesary words himself. if not, then he will get a 24 hr hide for not following requested actions.

I am one of the players who DID bid 3 in the first round, and I am NOT an idiot. Would one of the moderators (Stevie or one of the Global mods) please remove Czuch Chuckers' posts.

I have taken note uphuck, please refrain from calling anyone Idiot, Stupid, ignorant or anything like that. There is no need for it, and it was you who used the phrase first. I will leave these posts unaltered otherwise the conversation will be ruined.
But in the future please refrain from trying to argue your point in such a manner.
And Pedro, please refrain also.

We will all play the game in a slightly diferent manner, so no-one is any of the mentioned.
Thanks

Yes, surely betting three in the following rounds won't win the game. But betting just a bit more than the lowest bidders did just might do it. Yes, its a long game and it'll take quite a while to see who the real idiots are ;)

Not to mention this is a long game, and the "best" player of one round does not a winner make, I wouldnt be so quick to put your money on any of them just yet :)

I find it quite funny that someone who calls best players of the round idiots gets upset over himself being called idiot when he made far worse move himself :)

Anyways, only one round gone and i think i love this game already. Thanks to Fencer and Bad Bishop to making this available at BK!

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If you concider purposly making a bad move hoping that your opponent makes a worse one as a "smart" play, then anyone who did bid 3 or less is way smarter than myself. I dont believe that kind of strategy is a good long term strategy though... But for a once in a lifetime shot....CONGRATS!!!

Exactly!!!!!!

Quite risky indeed! ut in this specific game, it worked! (I wouldnt recommend it again though :)

Actually i thought of bidding 3 in the first place. Because someone who had not properly read/understood the rules might have picked 1 thinking thats enough to go to 2nd round as there is bound to be people not bidding at all. Maybe that is why there was few players going for one point on first round. Three would have been the choice instead two to outbid the ones thinking like myself in case there wouldn't be anyone betting one. But i just didn't have the guts for that and went for a random number on what i thought to be the safe side :) And it looks like i spent way too many points there. Idiot is a strong word. Looking at the results, betting three was an excellent choice, anyone using more points than that are the idiots :)

Well, with 1 point given one must be eliminated. It means the people didn't read the rules. Tough luck. With 20.000 points given I'd suppose the same or a strong dissadvantage in the mathematic (even if I get the reward, I'm staying here with only 500 points which is not so much...).
I think that the 3-points people hoped that somebody will not understand or not read the (rather simple) rules and give only 1 point hoping only the "non movers" will be eliminated. Quite risky, but it worked! :-)

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Thats correct Bishop... If someone did play 2 figuring that with so many players, there was bound to be at least one person who didnt know what they were doing and play a 1..... that is a great play, in this instance.


My point is, that anyone playing this game with any experience will never play 1 on the first round, which automatically eliminates a bid of 2 in the first round either.

I completely agree with your arguments about points and so. The using of the idiot word in connection with other people is another thing. ;-)

Well...... ????? am I missing?

I mean, if the object is to win, correct? And you cannot win by guessing 1 point, correct? Therefore it is logical to assume that anyone who wants to win will not choose 1, correct? Also, anyone who knows this will not choose 2 because if nobody is going to pick 1, 2 becomes the losing number, same logic for 3, correct?

What am I missing?

I'd like to be called idiot if I'd still have 19.997 points. :-)
Maybe it was a strange move - but it was a winning move. :-)

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