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28. októbra 2005, 02:19:06
Shumby 
Subjekt: Quick Hi
I didn't realize there was a Shogi discussion board here. I'm pretty new to the game but I've gotten a decent understanding of it. I've played a bunch of you and look forward to playing the rest.

Basically, just wanted to say hi! Happy Ooshoo Hunting

27. októbra 2005, 21:02:59
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Mino Pawn
ughaibu: Perhaps it is similiar to the vanguard pawn, but in a mino castle somehow? Thank you!

27. októbra 2005, 20:13:33
ughaibu 
DragonKing: go to this site http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/SHOGI/kifumain.html and look at game 2 of the 50th Osho match. Tanigawa (at the top) plays a mino. On the other hand, I dont know what "mino pawn" is meant to mean.

25. októbra 2005, 20:28:12
Sergey1 
Subjekt: Re: 1st game of 18th Ryuoh sen(Oct 25 & 26)
takodori: Another place with game translation: http://www.shogi.bz/kifu/index.html

25. októbra 2005, 09:55:43
jolat 
Subjekt: New Shogi fast Tournament
Hello,

I created a new Shogi Tournament for all players.
This tournament is addressed to the players who can play at least a
move per day.

Limit of registration: October 28

If you are interested, register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11934&tri=64782&trnst=0


Greetings

jolat

25. októbra 2005, 02:49:40
takodori 
Subjekt: 1st game of 18th Ryuoh sen(Oct 25 & 26)
You can watch and replay the game at;
http://202.215.250.252/~ryuoh/banmen.html

23. októbra 2005, 10:25:15
nosovs 
Subjekt: First Day results
1 Kagawa 3 5
2 Guangming 3 4
3 Oka 3 3
4 Jensson 2 6
5 Zapara 2 6
6 Mirnik 2 4
7 Heeffer 2 4
8 Shevchuk 2 4
9 Kaufman 2 3
10 Korchitskij 2 3
11 Cheymol 1 7
12 Hartman 1 5
13 Tamashiro 1 5
14 Christoffersen 1 5
15 Rojmahamangkol 1 4
16 van Oosten 1 4
17 Baggio 1 4
18 Hosking 0 6
19 Pfaffel 0 5
20 Wald 0 3

22. októbra 2005, 12:56:23
Sergey1 
Subjekt: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
nosovs: Please, to ring until 22-00 JST (Japan standard time) (-5h in Russia, -7h in Europe)

22. októbra 2005, 12:49:34
Sergey1 
Subjekt: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
nosovs: If you want you can ring to hotel "Tokyo East-21", where live participants and where hold ISF. Here phone number 8-10-813-5683-5683 and please connect to participant (Victor live in room 605). I busy now, and I will ring tomorrow.

22. októbra 2005, 11:22:32
nosovs 
Subjekt: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum)
Can you inform Results of first day ?
Thank you.

22. októbra 2005, 09:16:23
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Mino pawn and mino castle
Would someone tell me what a "mino" pawn and "mino" castle are? I"m going over a kifu and the notes tell me to watch the attack on the mino pawn. I have also seen references to a mino castle elsewhere. Thank you.

19. októbra 2005, 06:37:03
takodori 
Subjekt: Re:3rd ISF(International Shogi Forum) held in Tokyo
It will be held on Octorber 22 and 23 in Tokyo. Japan Shogi Association has invited 36 players from 19 countries for the event. The following URL is the list of the participants.
http://www.shogi.or.jp/event/kokusai-sankasya.html
An International tournament and a team tournament with commentary by professional players using a big board and pieces for the audiences are scheduled. In addition, There will be charity educational simultaneous play by professional players, an international shogi conference, the 3rd king league of computer shogi, exhibition of variety of shogi/chess in the world, cultural exchange event of tea ceremony and so forth.
On Octorber 21, a dinner party for the participants is scheduled and the tournament table will be decided by lottery during the party.

18. októbra 2005, 13:14:33
nosovs 
Subjekt: Shogi Festival in Tokyo
Zmenené užívateľom nosovs (18. októbra 2005, 13:14:56)
Can anybody inform us fresh news from Tokyo Shogi Festival ?

18. októbra 2005, 04:15:33
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Time limits
playBunny: So each time either SG1 Fan or I move, then the clock starts again? The time I see is the total time remaining for the next move to be made? Regardless of whose move it is? I think I understand now. THANK YOU. That explanation was specific and understanable.

18. októbra 2005, 00:44:34
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Time limits
DragonKing: I have checked my profile and I see i have 5 vacation days. But, just to clarify- if time runs out- say over night or something like that and It's my turn to move- then afetr all my vacation days are up- I would lose? It seems that to won- all someone has to do is wait till the very last minute and then move- regardless what the situation is on the board. I realize that over the board games always have time limits- but this seems very different to me. My objection is that at least one of my opponents hasn't moved in several days.

18. októbra 2005, 00:17:02
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Time limits
playBunny: Thank you for the reply- HOWEVER I don't think I understnad. You said if I don't make A MOVE- you mean to start the game? All these games are in progress- does that mean they must be over by the deadline? I'm trying to undertsand what I have to do not to lose these games. I am not a member. Do I have vacation days? This is very confusing.

18. októbra 2005, 00:09:33
Fwiffo 
Subjekt: Time limits
Being a pawn doesn't matter for time limits. When you run out of time you lose that game.

18. októbra 2005, 00:04:03
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Time limits
I ahve a question about the time limits in the beginner's tournament. Most of my games say 2 days 23 hours right now. What happens when that time is up? I am not a paid member here. Does that make a difference?

16. októbra 2005, 01:56:14
takodori 
Subjekt: Soccer and Shogi
For those who can read German, the following article by Dr. René Gralla in CHESSBASE might be interesting.
http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten.asp?newsid=4731

10. októbra 2005, 18:09:45
Fwiffo 
or on one of the "-"'s in the tournament table behind your name

10. októbra 2005, 18:06:43
Fwiffo 
don't click on the opponents name but on 'japanese chess' (the one you would like to play) on the main page

10. októbra 2005, 17:58:52
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Beginners Tournament
I am in this tournament- But I dont undertsand who am I playing in this first round? My main page tells me I am in like 15 games at once? How do I bring up these games to make my moves? When I click on my opponets name- I dont get the game board- instaed I get the chart with the names of all the first and second round people who are in the tournament. How do I start to play?

9. októbra 2005, 20:00:34
jolat 
Subjekt: Shogi's Tournament for advanced players
I created a new Shogi's Tournament for advanced players (1600).
Limit of registration: October 17
If you are interested, register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11654&trnst=0&tp=69

8. októbra 2005, 19:26:21
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
DragonKing:
Bien, très heureux d'avoir pu t'aider :-)

8. októbra 2005, 19:22:19
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
jolat: Ah Oui! Je comprends maintenant! Merci beaucuop! (Et, je crois que tu parle anglais bien!)

8. októbra 2005, 19:15:48
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
If I understood you well, you think that this file "book.bin" is a database of games which you can view with CSA shogi. If it is that, it does not have anything of it. "Book.bin" is a file which makes it possible the engine "Bonanza" to play the openings correctly.
When you play against SCA, it will answer instantaneously if the moves that you make in the opening are indexed in this file "book.bin".
I hope that I could render comprehensible me (excuse my approximate English: I am French:-)).

8. októbra 2005, 18:59:15
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
jolat: Yes I downloaded bookbin to the directory of csa- but how do I get those games to come up?

8. októbra 2005, 17:04:02
Sergey1 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
DragonKing:
I think that the database is used only for the rapid search for correct answer. Probably, developer knows the interior of this base, but does not give to rest the possibility of the survey of possible variants. But it would be very well to look they...

8. októbra 2005, 16:28:38
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: Bonanza games database.
DragonKing:
Do you want to speak about the file "book.bin"?

8. októbra 2005, 16:08:30
DragonKing 
Subjekt: Bonanza games database.
In that post from Manabu- he mentions a file of games that Bonanza can play. Has anyone downloaded those games? I have Bonanza 1.2 with CSA 3.01 and XT 1.22- but when I downloaded the bin file I can't see how to bring up the games for Bonanza to play. Anyone know what I did wrong? Thanks!

7. októbra 2005, 12:47:33
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: Good shogi's program ?
niccar:
Moreover, we can obtain an update of the interface "CSA shogi" to
http://homepage3.nifty.com/floatinghome/
This new interface allows to turn the board and to play in choosing
handicaps.

7. októbra 2005, 12:30:30
niccar 
Subjekt: Re: Good shogi's program ?
jolat:
This morning Manabu Terao posted new information about Bonanza on shogi-l list at this address:
http://www.shogi.net/shogi-l/dir05/dirday1007/article051007031049.html

7. októbra 2005, 10:21:17
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: Good shogi's program ?
niccar:
Thank you very much!

7. októbra 2005, 09:28:42
niccar 
Subjekt: Re: Good shogi's program ?
jolat:
A new very strong program is Bonanza. You can find more information at this address:
http://forum.shogishop.de/viewtopic.php?t=22

7. októbra 2005, 09:06:49
jolat 
Subjekt: Good shogi's program ?
Is this someone knows if it is possible to find a good program of
shogi in english and who can turn under Windows XP?
I know that there is "AI Shogi" and "Todai Shogi" but they are in Japanese.
In France, no salesman proposes some.

4. októbra 2005, 01:46:46
takodori 
Subjekt: Re: To play on line (in real time) on Kurnik
Spirou: Thanks for taking care, Spirou.As a matter of fact, I got the same reply from Kurnik:-)

3. októbra 2005, 18:30:19
Spirou 
Subjekt: Re: To play on line (in real time) on Kurnik
takodori: Here is the webmaster's answer. Below is the question:

"Shogi is not officially launched yet. It's only in the japanese version of
Kurnik for testing purposes.

M.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, Paul Grosemans wrote:

> Dear Marek Futrega,
>
> I am new at your club.
>
> In my opinion it is not so amazing there are no shogi player, because this
> game is not mentionned in "select a game to play online:".
> I wonder how the person in another club, who told your club exists, may have
> fond your shogi section.
>
> The shogi design is very beautifull !
>
> I hope this could help to promote this marvellous game.
>
> Best regards,
> Paul Grosemans (GrosPaul)."

3. októbra 2005, 10:47:57
jolat 
Subjekt: Shogi's Tournament for beginners
I created a new Shogi'S Tournament for beginners (NR and less of 1600).
Limit of registration: October 10
Please register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11553&tri=61537&trnst=0

3. októbra 2005, 07:30:38
jolat 
Subjekt: Re: To play on line (in real time) on Kurnik
If you click in the drop-down menu in top on the right, you
obtain already many translations of the site.
But it is true that for the
moment, I could not play, not having found any adversary, some is the selected languages (even in Japanese).

3. októbra 2005, 01:25:08
takodori 
Subjekt: Re: To play on line (in real time) on Kurnik
jolat: In order for more shogi players to get to know Kurnik, I think its toppage in English, French, and any other languages other than Japanese should display SHOGI in the list of games. I sent them a suggestion to do so.

1. októbra 2005, 16:12:43
jolat 
Subjekt: To play on line (in real time) on Kurnik
I have just discovered that we can now play Shogi (in real time) on
Kurnik at
http://www.kurnik.org/intl/en/shogi/

1. októbra 2005, 08:03:33
jolat 
Subjekt: New Shogi's Tournament
I created a Shogi'S Tournament. Please register you at
http://brainking.com/fr/Tournaments?trg=11519&tri=61428&trnst=0

1. októbra 2005, 02:41:36
takodori 
Subjekt: 3rd game of Ouza Title Match
Today is the day for the 3rd game of the 53rd Ouza sen between Ouza Habu and Challenger Kisei Sato. The match started at 9:00am(JST) today. Shogi Kingdom of Nikkei Net(http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/)
is broadcasting the match on weblive. Here is how to watch the gameboard on live.

Go to the page of Shogi Kingdom of Nikkei Net at;
http://hobby.nikkei.co.jp/shogi/

Click the red arrow above the photo of the players.

Then you will have another smaller window of the gameboard on live.

Sato went first. The score is 2-0 led by Habu before this game. 3 wins in advance will decide which will be the title holder of Ouza.

24. septembra 2005, 00:12:47
takodori 
Subjekt: Re:
DragonKing: Habu won the 7th game of Oui Title match against Sato with 116 moves(according to the shogi's way of move counting) and defended the title with the score of 4-3.
You can replay the game at the following URL
http://event2.hokkaido-np.co.jp/46oui-7/java.php
Habu went first in the game.

I'm trying to explain the possible mate lines after the resignation diagram. After the 116.G*9c, there are two squares Sente's King can escape such as 8e and 7c. In case of 8e, the mating line will be P*8d, K-anywhere, G*8e(mate). In case of K-7c, it will be G*6c, K-7b, G-6b, K-8b, G-9b(mate)

Habu is now in the Ouza title match with Sato as well. It is a 3 points match. As of today, Habu leads Sato by 2-0. The 3rd game will be held on Oct. 1.

23. septembra 2005, 06:15:44
DragonKing 
Did Habu win the final game of the Oi? So he defended his title? He really does seem unbeatable at times. Makes me fear for Mouriuchi and the Meijin title.

20. septembra 2005, 17:49:00
Keith Graham 
Subjekt: Re:
takodori: Aah, I had overlooked that, Takadori, thanks.

In reply to Fwiffo: To me, it would make distinguishing my own pieces from my opponent's. I'm wondering if veteran players would feel that having both players' pieces the same color is so intrinsic to the nature of the game that it would be a detriment instead of an enhancement.

I hope this clarifies.

20. septembra 2005, 01:12:26
takodori 
Subjekt: Re:
KeithGraham:As one of veteran players who has played shogi for more than 35 years, I would agree on your suggestion if a user can choose the traditional pieces or the proposed pieces here on BrainKing.

As to the physical set, I wouldn't think it'd be feasible. Please appreciate the fact that the other side of a playing piece is already used for promotion, except for King and Gold.

20. septembra 2005, 00:53:14
Fwiffo 
In what way would two different colours be an enhancement? I don't understand...

19. septembra 2005, 23:32:31
Keith Graham 
Would you veteran players agree that using two different colors for the pieces would be an enhancement to playing Shogi here on BrainKing?

The same thing could be accomplished with a physical set by having the opposite color on the other side of a playing piece, for when they are dropped back into the game, so it would seem reasonable to me. I think it would be a help.

Thanks for any replies.

Keith, new player.

14. septembra 2005, 16:48:15
Spirou 
Subjekt: Re: Oi Tournament.
takodori: Fantastic game!
In comparison with Japanese players, I can evaluate my lack of boldness, my careful greediness. Yet a thousand games and I probably could play better

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