Hieronymus: Of course the probabilities would change as pieces are taken, as in Chess, if 2 Pawns are taken, odds are 6-1.

Its has to be new, i think the change is alot. I have played alot of games of it now, and one thing that crops up alot is having to move your King for no reason, just because the Kings pawn square is free for example. At least with an odds change, the chances of things like that happening are not evens LOL
You may say small, but there was only a small change in Ataxx & Assimilation, but from experience i know most people prefer Assimilation.

MadMonkey: How should the probabilities be affected, if there are already pieces captured? I think, if there are e.g. 2 pawns captured, there should be a ratio of 6:1 instead of 8:1.
And why this should be a new game? The changes would be minor enough (most players wouldn't notice them), that they should affect the current version.

'Percentile Dice Chess' or just 'Percentile Chess' there you go Fencer, an instant new game, and you only have to change the code slightly

Marfitalu: Ok, when the dice shows 4.

MadMonkey: Yes, en passant could be played also ( on a 1), I think you should castle also on a 4.

Hieronymus: Thats exactly what i mean

Yes you can castle & Kings can capture Kings, havent tried en passant yet

joshi tm: Like you say, the odds would be normal Chess odds as such, as in which actual piece may move. In other words, if you had advanced your king pawn, the odds would would be 8-1 they you would have to move the King, where as now its evens.

The game would be totaly different, call 'Dice Chess the Revenge of the 16 sided percentile dice' or 'Percentile Dice Chess'

percentile, love that word danheg LOL

MadMonkey: It's not necessary, to have a more-than-6-sided die, but, I think, it would be a good idea, to have the probabilities weighted this way. That means, it would be 8 times more probable to roll a "1" than a "6", and 2 times more probable to roll a "2", "3" or "4" than "5" or "6". What do you think?

Another question according this game: Is it possible to castle or to capture en passant, if the die and the usual chess rules allow it?

danheg: It would be cool, even odds, but that would be whole other gamplay.

MadMonkey: Ah, I see. The code is generated only in 1-6 range.

Fencer: Roleplaying games such as Dungeons and Dragons, Marvel superheroes, and etc.  use 4 sided, 10 sided , 20 sided, percentile dice, and etc.  It wouldn't be impossible. 

MadMonkey: But then you would have a 16 sided dice. Could be cool for a variant of course, but not to replace the rules, cause these are fine this way.

Fencer: It can, BUT a computer can pick and Random number between 2 points, as in 1 & 16 at the start of a game.

If it picked a number between :
1 and 8 = 1 Pawn
out of 9 & 10 = 2 Knight
out of 11 & 12 = 3 Bishop
out of 13 & 14 = 4 Rook
a 15 = 5 Queen
or 16 = 6 King

In other words your chances of moving a pawn are greatly increased at the start, and most the way through the game. It would make for a totaly different game. I thought the 1 to 6 way was the way it was happening

But then if you did it that way, could not really be called Dice Chess, but could be another version (Dice Chess 2), at least the maths percentage would be right LOL

MadMonkey: How can a normal die show other number than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?

Fencer: Just a interesting question i thought. In Dice Chess, does the code generate a random number when picking which piece to move either:

Between 1 and 6

Or

Between 1 and 16 (or all possible pieces available to a player)

ScarletRose: Never heard of infinite loops?

I keep getting bumped off the site.. and I only have not even 2 hours to finish a tourney game against my mom.. I have already timed on 3 games today.. argghhh..

"Snoopy": NO

Two games 

Gr☺uch☺: oh did i win a game against you..lol

Could you please reset two of my Dice Chess games against Snoopy where I lost?  Can you reset them so I win? 

I hate losing.



I love that game!

MadMonkey: Yes.

Fencer: Could you please reset Cheversi game No.2202041

Same problem

Fencer: this one was in the same tournament as madmonkeys could it be restarted also please
Cheversi ("Snoopy" vs. fanciann)

Pedro Martínez: Whoops! Got my pieces mixed up! NEVERMIND!

Fencer: Ehm, is this the same situation like in my game Cheversi (Ugo vs. Gordon Shumway) ?

Czuch Czuckers: No. 2 points.

BIG BAD WOLF: isnt a knight placed in a corner worth 14 points?

Fencer: Thankyou I love the game, not as much as Dice Chess, now thats addictive

MadMonkey: It was started a while after midnight where some final bugfixing was made. The move has been cancelled.

Fencer: My game 2203836 was.
My opponent started with a Knight (not a king), now its forcing me to play my Queen, thats not what the rules say. Thats why i would like it restarted.

Czuch Czuckers: No games started by old rules are switched mid stream.

MadMonkey: what is the difference if your opponenet uses the king or knight first? both give 8 points, and both you can't block any of those 8 points - so no matter if white started with king or knight, it should be the same or very close to the same.

As a side note, I've played with the king-queen rule in 3 test games, and I was still able to win all 3 games as black. (just a lot closer) Of course there are a few other rules on how spaces are counted that was not in place at that time.

"Snoopy": Its even worse when a game starts by old rules, then switches mid stream... fencer will probabl6y have to delete the whole tournament?

Fencer: Could you just restart the game for me please so we are both using the same rules

"Snoopy": That sux

Czuch Czuckers: you cant delete tournament games
and as far as i can see half the games in the tournament will be played by the old rules and the rest with the new ones!!!!

MadMonkey: Just delete the game! The rules should have only effected new games started after the 11th, some bug, I guess.

Pedro Martínez: Of course it is, Blacks Queen will now get blocked in, hence the idea of taking away Blacks advantage, now WQhite has a major one. I would not mind if White had been forced to use the King first like the Rules state, but i dont think changing game rules during a game is right.

MadMonkey: Yes, that is right...even though I don't think the advantage of the white is that major...if any at all...

Pedro Martínez: So the game started using old rules, and now uses new rules.

Is that right ? Certainly not fair, so now white has major advantage

MadMonkey: Yes, I know...this rule took effect on the 11th of January...read this:
http://brainking.com/en/News?tp=93

Pedro Martínez: But my opponent had not placed a White King, he put a Knight.

MadMonkey: Rules: "In order to eliminate an advantage of black player, a game must be started by placing a white king, followed by placing a black queen."

Fencer: Why in my Cheversi game 2203836 will it only let me place the Queen on the board and nothing else ?

Tulip: oh thats bad news luckily im on broadband with NTL but NTL are a law unto themselves im afraid

NTL sent a letter today that they are withdrawing their internet access to folk who use the boxes.
if your on a pc your'e ok...
so i'll say farewell to all the friends ive made here & played against..my house will be sooooooo clean with no games & chat and i'll go stark,staring mad! ;(
its going off this weekend sometime..

BIG BAD WOLF: There was a global downtime on our ISP. Not a BrainKing issue.

Jason: Yesterday for about 1/2 hour, and today off and on for less then 10 minutes at a time, connection problems - all other sites work well.

Don't think it is a BrainKing issue, but a connection issue (since I could not also connect to brainking.info, which is on a different server if I remember correctly.)

Jason: i had problems about an hour ago.

Jason: I had some connection timeouts earlier but all seems fine now.