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7. Ocak 2008, 10:19:38
Eriisa 
Konu: Time to take a break.
Eriisa (7. Ocak 2008, 10:20:52) tarafından düzenlendi
ok, I think this is enough,

For months now, the complaints have been that the site has been slow.

Fencer's response has been that the site's hardware and software is running up to speed and correctly.

Several customer's response to that has been rude, sarcastic, baiting, and downright hateful. Yet everyone expects that Fencer should not get upset or react to the provocative comments to him. Maybe you all forget that he is human too.

I think this hop thing is showing, that the slowness is from the transfer on the internet and not caused by any servers in the Czech Republic.

From this point on, if you want to complain... Complain.

But the personal attacks, and baiting, and derision, WILL stop or you will be moderated just as if you were baiting anyone else on this site. (added: yes Fencer too)

Thank you.


7. Ocak 2008, 08:23:19
ScarletRose 
Konu: Re:
ScarletRose (7. Ocak 2008, 08:25:57) tarafından düzenlendi

Fencer: I see what it is now.. it's not that you are an immature twit.. nor will I discredit your country.. for it is you individually who is rash..



You probably should be more proficient in the English tongue before you continue speaking as though you are a Master in it...



I didn't ask for Ridicule.. I asked for respect.. you know not how to give it.. so to honor you.. I won't give it to you in return..



 



 


7. Ocak 2008, 08:21:47
Mort 
.. No problem with loading speeds this end. Usually helps to clean ya comp with something like window washer once a week.

... We're on a 4mb line.

7. Ocak 2008, 08:08:13
Fencer 
Konu: Re:
ScarletRose: Danoschek? Wow, I am impressed. It doesn't happen every day to be compared with someone who had called me "fascist" several times in the past. And I thought that nothing new could surprise me here.
Well, smart people know. The others will always find an excuse to criticize anything what seems to be a good topic to them.
And, actually, if someone has been told at least 10 times "I realize you are frustrated, please kindly check your computer and ISP ... blah blah" and it has no effect, there is really nothing left except "Look here dipweed, it's only your problem you twit! Start to think and give me a break." I am always glad to learn new words, it can be useful in the future.

7. Ocak 2008, 08:00:44
Bernice 
Konu: Re:
Bernice (7. Ocak 2008, 08:07:47) tarafından düzenlendi
TarantinoFan: I got stuck in NZ. I also had 30 hops (with a maximum of 30 hops), but i got nothing after hop 21 at sloane.cz until hop 30 where they all timed out....but there was no IP address 212.23.50.58.....dont know what it means so perhaps someone could explain

7. Ocak 2008, 06:45:56
ScarletRose 
Konu: Re:

rod03801: I have to agree with Floosie and Rose here..


it isn't too much the slowness.. but, it is his way of communicating to his consumers.. he talks to those who have mentioned it in a belittling way.. all he would have to do is simply say..


I realize you are frustrated with the lack of speed you are experiencing.. and since it has been an ongoing problem I have been monitoring the downloads from our side over here. It seems that the problem is not coming from Brainking itself; but, from other sources. Could it possibly be your ISP or internet provider? Maybe your individual computer could stand for an upgrade??


Just something that actually shows that he is concerned would be more comforting than his responce..


"Well look here dipweed. It isn't coming from BrainKing you twit!! It is your carrier. It has'ta be. We are too perfect on this end..


Signed.. The Master of the Gamesite Web builder himself


Although, funny as it seems.. that IS how he is coming accross to others. Almost Danochek like..


I came on this board earlier tonight and was amazed at the way he was speaking (typing) to his customers. Is this the way people do business where he lives? If so, I pity the residents of his country. How sad it must be to live in a world where sarcasm is used daily towards people who financially support a business only to be treated as a dog.  If I am wrong to assume this we can blame Fencer for the image he is portraying of the people in Praque.


7. Ocak 2008, 04:46:55
NOT a floosie 
Konu: Re:
I'm not sure that the speed of the site is the bigger issue here. My guess is that it is absolute rudeness to the people that have supported this site through the years so that it could grow and become the place that it is.

And, I'd like to give a big thank you to Fencer for finally acknowledging in his blog, the fact that the Globals and Moderators are, and have been a big part of making this site what it is. It's nice to finally be recognized.

7. Ocak 2008, 04:19:24
rod03801 
Konu: Re:
Rose: If it is not a Brainking problem, what is supposed to be done about it??? (And if it IS a Brainking problem, I'd still like to know why it doesn't affect everyone. other than a little minor slowness at times, the site is working ok for me, and I'm on THIS side of the pond too)

7. Ocak 2008, 04:12:42
Rose 
I guess what it all boils down to is the fact as long as it works for certain people and they keep paying then there is no problem. Albeit the 400 (guesstimate) or so on this side of the pond who were the first loyal yearly supporters of the site 5 or so years ago before there were more than a handful of European supporters have an issue with slowness now, that we never had before. wel that is just our tuff luck. Or am I reading this wrong? Too damn bad is how I see/read it.  (Yes, i am customer #156 who joined here when the majority of payments came from North America.)

I do think being nasty to customers is any way to deal with it. If I did that in my business I wouldn't be in business for very long.

BUT like any thing else in life. If a person isn't satisfied with the service the option is to stop paying for the service and get better service elsewhere. It is what makes or breaks businesses.



7. Ocak 2008, 04:11:32
TarantinoFan 
Konu: Re:
Eriisa: I had 30 hops and got stuck in New York for an extra bit of time. It took more than a full second to trace thru the second New York server.

7. Ocak 2008, 04:07:25
Eriisa 
Each line that displays is the path on the internet that my signal goes to brainking. (kinda like dot to dot).

uh, if that makes sense. lol

7. Ocak 2008, 04:06:03
Eriisa 
Konu: Re:
srnity: yep

Click on Start
Click on Run
Type cmd (in the window)
A black box will open up. This is called a DOS window. At the cursor type in tracert brainking.com and hit enter.

7. Ocak 2008, 04:01:02
srnity 
Konu: Re:
Eriisa: I'm an idiot - can you explain how to figure that out again?

7. Ocak 2008, 03:58:52
Eriisa 
Konu: Re:
Gordon Shumway: my god, I had 25 hops!

7. Ocak 2008, 03:48:37
ScarletRose 
Konu: Re:

Gordon Shumway: Well.. I too have the problem with slower page loads.. not sure whose fault it is.. although, I know with all the cutsie stuff that is continually added.. it seems to slow my pages even more.. and yes.. I went ahead and refigured some of the things in my settings pages.. I pay for a high speed connection.. I pay 43 dollars a month.. which is about 3 times more than just dial up.. I expect my pages to load a bit more quickly.. which at BK.. it feels as though I am on dial up again..


Hey! I know.. it's a conspiracy against the US and countries similar.. LOL


Furthermore, I do have one observation I would like to state.. My family has been in business now for almost 20 years.. we have both motel and cafe.. Usually we try to be polite to our customers .. for if we continued to be sarcastic to them.. we wouldn't have them support us anymore.. Is the practice of being polite limited to just a few countries?? Is where Fencer lives a country that continually belittles peeps and down talks them like they are idiots.. Please let us know now.. so we can happily spread the cheer to all the newbies so they don't waste their hard earned dollars.. unless of course they are from Fencers neck of the woods where that behavior is acceptible..


Or perhaps it is his style of life since he is still a young man in mid 30's.. similar to the immature boys over here.. is Fencer also immature?? I wouldn't expect so since he is the master of websites.. and since he has a child I would expect he also knew what patience was...


7. Ocak 2008, 03:41:13
TarantinoFan 
Konu: Re:I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it
Gordon Shumway: I know that nothing I say is going to hold any weight because I don't

Cheeky, rude, disrespectful, baiting.......etc. I am only following the example set by the site owner.

BTW: Thanks for the tip. I will check my settings.

7. Ocak 2008, 03:22:14
TarantinoFan 
Konu: Re:
srnity: I can tell you how to get on the "certain users" list!

7. Ocak 2008, 01:55:59
toedder 
Konu: Re:
Eriisa: On windows, open a DOS box and type tracert brainking.com. You'll experience a timeout though, after the IP address 212.23.50.58. That timeout is the BrainKing server. It doesn't answer to ICMP traffic, so it gives you a timeout. Thus you can't use it for time measurements, but you can see the route.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:51:04
Eriisa 
Konu: Re:
Gordon Shumway: how do you do the hop thing? I think it would be interesting to test it at different times and locations.

I rarely have trbl, but did yesterday. Like you, I agree that its the nodes and networks along the way.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:50:38
toedder 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: The problem is - you can't tell that unless you actually are in that area. And it isn't usually area specific. I am on ADSL 3000, but I could easily have the idea to switch to Modem or ISDN or whatever slow connection. Or I could have the same basic connection speed, but maybe my ISP has speed problems in my area from time to time, or let's too many people share bandwidth, or whatever... There are quite a couple of possible reasons for a slow connection to a specific site, and you can't tell unless you try.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:48:45
srnity 
Konu: Re:
Jim Dandy: Maybe if we level off some mountain ranges, knock down (or build up?) some cellphone towers, get rid of those annoying wind-turbine thingees, and somehow calm the Atlantic Ocean just a tad.....

7. Ocak 2008, 01:47:07
rod03801 
Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
MadMonkey: I noticed something similar with Alquerque and Jarmo boards as well. Every so often the site has been a bit slower, but not very much.

I wish someone knew the answer why it is only a problem for some people. I think knowing that answer would help a lot of people.

It makes sense that it isn't specifically a brainking problem, since not everyone is experiencing the same thing. To me, if it were, everyone would be having the exact same problems. (Or it makes sense to ME anyways.. lol)

I WOULD say that over the last couple of days, it is probably the more graphic intensive pages that have been a bit slower.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:44:41
Andersp 
Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Gordon Shumway:  I have no idea of what color the list has, the only thing im 100% convinced of is that Brain Kings transferproblems


never will occur on Fencer's to do list...keep swiping...next year we'll see 70000 less games. 


7. Ocak 2008, 01:43:41
toedder 
Konu: Re:
srnity: Shhh, I'll PM you about it

7. Ocak 2008, 01:43:19
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Gordon Shumway: Maybe the solution would be to post a disclaimer to those in areas that are most likely to have sub par performance on the site.The lesser quality might be logical,but it should be sold at a discount.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:42:10
srnity 
Sooooooooooooo, how do I get on The List?

7. Ocak 2008, 01:39:01
toedder 
Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
Andersp: I see... So it's gotta be the white list...

7. Ocak 2008, 01:37:42
toedder 
Konu: Re:
TarantinoFan: I'd like to point out again, that not everybody is having the problems you are talking about. I don't have them, and there are others who don't, and who stated it here right on this board. That doesn't mean no problems exist, but it makes it kind of unlikely, that those problems are on BrainKing's side (since we don't believe in a white list theory, right?). There are many routers and networks involved when the page data is transferred around the world. I just traced it, and my route passes 13 hops, but they are located in just two networks. So my ISP has a pretty decent connection to the ISP of BrainKing, I guess. And maybe yours doesn't. And for you and all the others a striped down version of BrainKing game pages and main page (like suggested by coan.net) might really be a great idea, to cut down the transfer time. I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it

BTW: If there are too many images for you to load - maybe you could turn smileys off to have fewer? Have you checked your browser settings? Does it have enough memory to cache all images so you don't have to load them again with each request? Because usually an image is only loaded once and then read from the cache instead of over the internet from i.brainking.com, and thus shouldn't slow your page loading time down at all.

7. Ocak 2008, 01:15:22
Bernice 
Konu: Re:
TarantinoFan: 'ere 'ere

7. Ocak 2008, 01:03:07
TarantinoFan 
Filip doesn't "Feed the Trolls" he is a troll himself. He never fails to troll through this site for "certain user" posts to respond to.

If the i brainking is taking so long to load doesn't that suggest that maybe there are too many images?

When people from both groups ie: "certain users" and "not you "  are saying the same thing then it would suggest that something needs to be checked somewhere and abuse of the "certain users" groups does not negate the fact that the "not you " group is having the same problems with this site.

6. Ocak 2008, 23:55:48
Andersp 
Konu: Re:
Andersp (6. Ocak 2008, 23:56:37) tarafından düzenlendi

Jim Dandy: LOL..i think so...but Fencer prefer to call it "Feeding the Troll"  :)


guess we have to wait for the long article :)


 


6. Ocak 2008, 23:50:48
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Andersp: I have a feeling the press conference is over.

6. Ocak 2008, 23:49:54
Andersp 
Was my question to difficult Filip? 

6. Ocak 2008, 23:38:49
Andersp 
Konu: Re:

Gordon Shumway: Yes..i saw that excuse, but my question to Fencer was if it worries him.


 


6. Ocak 2008, 23:35:27
toedder 
Konu: Re:
Andersp: Due to the disappearance of Action Points, as he explained just two sentences further on. Which makes sense to me...

6. Ocak 2008, 23:31:48
Andersp 
  • 2005: 678,600 games 
  • 2006: 860,546 games 
  • 2007: 792,881 games

  • Fencer:  you have "lost" almost 70000 games  2006 - 2007...does it worry you?


    6. Ocak 2008, 23:28:19
    MadMonkey 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: ahhh thanks

    No not really, i have the odd smiley that does not show itself, but shows as a group of a few pixels in a block, but apart from that all BK images are fine

    Only problem i had yesterday was with the Alquerque board. I know it is large anyway, but for some reason the board once loaded, parts of it looked as if they were not loaded, if that makes sense. Like not completely there.
    Is there no way to make smaller Alquerque, Jarmo and Ludo boards ? (yes i know, time lol)

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:23:14
    Bernice 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Andersp: LOL

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:19:50
    Fencer 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    MadMonkey: Sorry. The i.brainking.com server provides all images and the brainking.com is still the BrainKing as we know it - the HTML code and similar things.
    Are there any particular images you have a problem with?

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:19:34
    Andersp 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: Better be a honest "Troll" than an a ...oooops!!!!!  cant say that!!

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:17:11
    Bernice 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: At least people know I mean what I say...unlike you....And "simple arguements" are for simple people...you are in your own company

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:16:43
    MadMonkey 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer:

    p.s. Did you miss my question, brainking.com & i.brainking.com, what is the difference ?

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:14:58
    Fencer 
    Konu: Re: thanks
    ChessChampion: Thank you.

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:14:38
    Fencer 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Jim Dandy: Every respectable person deserves a respect. Unfortunately it does not apply to Bernice. Hell, I have made this mistake again but sometimes I cannot resist.

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:14:10
    Andersp 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Jim Dandy: Maybe a translation of "respect" to Fencers language could be a good idea?

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:12:07
    Fencer 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: Obviously you are not smart enough to understand the simplest arguments. Which is, to my amusement, confirmed by your every post. Keep doing that.

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:11:24
    ChessChampion 
    Konu: thanks
    just wanted to say THX 4 da site fencer!!

    i could neveerrrr really find many of da chess variants dat i have found here on other sites (i guess i didnt really loook tho cuz of IYT and stuff like that) lol

    anyways thanks 2 u and da other important ppl dat have 2 do something w/da site :DD

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:10:04
    Bernice 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: and besides...I paid the money, Im entitled to service...or isnt service part of your user agreement?

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:09:35
    The Col 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: I'm no psychologist,but people develop an attachment to sites,she's clearly not happy,but she deseves a degree of respect.

    6. Ocak 2008, 23:08:27
    Bernice 
    Konu: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: because I love "giving it to ya" and watching you squirm LOL

    You have become expert at it over the past 5-6 years

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