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26. Temmuz 2010, 01:05:44
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re: who sail that liberals are cockroaches and must be killed?
Ferris Bueller: Micheal Savage is a bit radical and most conservatives take him with a grain of salt. for anyone suggest that Bachmann was suggesting taking up "guns" is laughable. I see such a ploy for what it is: desperation on the left because they know they are losing ground.

Why do you think you liberals are going to lose big time in November? People hate the policies of the left and they particularly hate the policies of Obama.

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:57:11
Ferris Bueller 
Konu: Re: who sail that liberals are cockroaches and must be killed?

Artful Dodger:  It seems to be a right wing talk radio thing to refer to liberals as "cockroaches" who are subhuman  It quickly follows that cockroaches are to be exterminated.  Micheal Savage comes to mind as someone who outright advocates death.  He once told a Gay man that he should "die of Aids".


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1948673167839820753#


There is also Glenn Beck's now famous tirade about killing Michael Moore or hiring someone to do it for him.


You may can cite samples of this kind of talk by liberal pundits.  That's not responsible either.  You might also laugh this kind of propaganda off as "sarcasm", but many people do not.


25. Temmuz 2010, 23:25:11
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Name ONE thing he has done to change the country into something other than what the founders intended. ONE.
Tuesday: You will never achieve a utopia of financial equity. There will always be the haves and have nots. It's the haves that create the businesses that create the jobs. Like it or not, without the rich, there would be many many more poor people.

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:13:50
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Name ONE thing he has done to change the country into something other than what the founders intended. ONE.
Tuesday: Read your history. They fully addressed the issue of a national banking system. They opposed it.

They strongly opposed the government's involvement in the private sector. They strongly supported a limited government.

Read the Federalist Papers.

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:09:25
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Name ONE thing he has done to change the country into something other than what the founders intended. ONE.
Tuesday: Nationalizing Banks.

Creating a "share the wealth" heavily taxed system.

Universal Health care

cap and trade (pushing big time for this)

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:07:56
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Combining everything she's says with getting armed and dangerous...not good.
Tuesday: I disagree. I say that it is very good.

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:04:00
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:at's because you're on the right.
Tuesday: No, it's because what she says is true. I see a president that is changing America into something other than what the founders intended. He'll be defeated. First in November and then in 2012.

25. Temmuz 2010, 23:02:41
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:armed and dangerous
Tuesday: Yes and it's a metaphor but most uneducated democrats would miss it. We should be armed with the truth (even the Bible speaks using this exact metaphoric language) so that we can be dangerous to the opposition.

Knowledge is power. Leave it to wimpy minded liberals to resort to manufacturing a straw man.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:59:18
Papa Zoom 
I couldn't agree with Bachmann more. Most everything she said in those videos expresses a view of mine.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:57:48
Papa Zoom 
Ok, video number two. Bachmann is again, right on.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:53:15
Papa Zoom 
The Young Turks are ultra liberal. One video so far and the only nut in the video was the moron commentator host. Michele Bachmann was right on in her assessment of Obama.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:39:45
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: Imagine a world without gay people............not a world I'd want to live in,not having Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, would alone be a deal breaker.I don't think homophobes realise how much of a void we would have in the world without the contributions of the gay community

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:33:34
The Col 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: If he's a she, fine, just don't deny what you are

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:30:12
The Col 
Bachman & Palin have set women in politics back a few decades.I might buy them a drink in a bar, but they are both dense.All sizzle no steak

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:20:18
The Col 
Konu: Re: Michele Bachman
Artful Dodger: She crossed the wacko dixon line years ago

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:19:56
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re: Michele Bachman
Jim Dandy: In the meantime, I wish you'd post a couple of examples (in your own words) why you think she's a wacko.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:19:11
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re: Michele Bachman
Jim Dandy: I'm not convinced she's a whacko but then I haven't seen the videos yet. I will look soon tho.

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:05:07
The Col 
Konu: Re: Michele Bachman
The Col (25. Temmuz 2010, 22:05:24) tarafından düzenlendi
Tuesday: She's actually not bad looking, and lord knows how many times I let good looking trump wacko

25. Temmuz 2010, 22:00:11
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: I'll look at those links tho ;)

25. Temmuz 2010, 21:58:33
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday: Michele Bachman's

She's another of my heros

25. Temmuz 2010, 18:45:25
Mort 
Anita Moncrief ... fired for using a business expense card for personal items.

Sounds like a disgruntled thief rather than a pillar of democracy.

25. Temmuz 2010, 18:43:58
Mort 
Konu: Re:
Tuesday~Ferris Bueller: We have free speech here.. as long as it is not used to lie, cause hatred and the like. Then it's either a libel case or court. You can say what you want.. but if you break the law (which is very liberal) expect to be held to account.

25. Temmuz 2010, 06:59:05
Papa Zoom 
ACORN whistle-blower Anita Moncrief held a press conference Friday at the Right Online Convention in Las Vegas. She announced today that she will press FEC charges against the Obama Administration for the campaign’s illegal coordination with ACORN during the 2008 election.

25. Temmuz 2010, 06:47:47
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Here's a list of names of the knuckleheads that conspired to shape the news.
They are ALL from the Left.

1. Spencer Ackerman - Wired, FireDogLake, Washington
Independent, Talking Points Memo, The American Prospect
2. Ben Adler - Newsweek, POLITICO
3. Mike Allen - POLITICO
4. Eric Alterman - The Nation, Media Matters for America
5. Marc Ambinder - The Atlantic
6. Greg Anrig - The Century Foundation
7. Ryan Avent - Economist
8. Dean Baker - The American Prospect
9. Nick Baumann - Mother Jones
10. Josh Bearman - LA Weekly
11. Steven Benen - The Carpetbagger Report
12. Jared Bernstein - Economic Policy Institute
13. Michael Berube - Crooked Timber (blog), Pennsylvania State University
14. Lindsay Beyerstein - (blogger)
15. Joel Bleifuss - In These Times
16. John Blevins - South Texas College of Law
17. Sam Boyd - The American Prospect
18. Rich Byrne - Playwright and freelancer
19. Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic
20. Jonathan Chait - The New Republic
21. Lakshmi Chaudry - In These Times
22. Isaac Chotiner - The New Republic
23. Michael Cohen - New America Foundation
24. Jonathan Cohn - The New Republic
25. Joe Conason - The New York Observer
26. David Corn - Mother Jones
27. Daniel Davies - The Guardian
28. David Dayen - FireDogLake
29. Brad DeLong - The Economists' Voice, University of California at Berkley
30. Ryan Donmoyer - Bloomberg
31. Kevin Drum - Washington Monthly
32. Matt Duss - Center for American Progress
33. Eve Fairbanks - The New Republic
34. Henry Farrell - George Washington University
35. Tim Fernholz - American Prospect
36. James Galbraith - University of Texas at Austin (professor)
37. Todd Gitlin - Columbia University
38. Ilan Goldenberg - National Security Network
39. Dana Goldstein - The Daily Beast
40. Merrill Goozner - Chicago Tribune
41. David Greenberg - Slate
42. Robert Greenwald - Brave New Films
43. Chris Hayes - The Nation
44. Don Hazen - Alternet
45. Michael Hirsh - Newsweek
46. John Judis - The New Republic, The American Prospect
47. Michael Kazin - Georgetown University (law professor)
48. Ed Kilgore - Democratic Stategist
49. Richard Kim - The Nation
50. Mark Kleiman - The Reality Based Community
51. Ezra Klein - Washington Post, Newsweek, The American Prospect
52. Joe Klein - TIME
53. Paul Krugman - The New York Times, Princeton University
54. Lisa Lerer - POLITICO
55. Daniel Levy - Century Foundation
56. Alec McGillis - Washington Post
57. Scott McLemee - Inside Higher Ed
58. Ari Melber - The Nation
59. Seth Michaels - MyDD.com
60. Luke Mitchell - Harper's Magazine
61. Gautham Nagesh - The Hill, Daily Caller
62. Suzanne Nossel - Human Rights Watch
63. Michael O'Hare - University of California, Berkeley
64. Rick Perlstein - Author, Campaign for America's Future
65. Harold Pollack - University of Chicago
66. Foster Kamer - The Village Voice
67. Katha Pollitt - The Nation
68. Ari Rabin-Havt - Media Matters
69. David Roberts - Grist
70. Alyssa Rosenberg - Washingtonian, The Atlantic, Government Executive
71. Alex Rossmiller - National Security Network
72. Laura Rozen - Politico, Mother Jones
73. Greg Sargent - Washington Post
74. Thomas Schaller - Baltimore Sun
75. Noam Scheiber - The New Republic
76. Michael Scherer - TIME
77. Mark Schmitt - American Prospect
78. Adam Serwer - American Prospect
79. Thomas Schaller - Baltimore Sun (columnist), University of Maryland, Baltimore County (professor), FiveThirtyEight.com (contributing writer)
80. Julie Bergman Sender - Balcony Films
81. Walter Shapiro - PoliticsDaily.com
82. Nate Silver - FiveThirtyEight.com
83. Jesse Singal - The Boston Globe, Washington Monthly
84. Ben Smith - POLITICO
85. Sarah Spitz - NPR
86. Adele Stan - The Media Consortium
87. Kate Steadman - Kaiser Health News
88. Jonathan Stein - Mother Jones
89. Sam Stein - The Huffington Post
90. Jesse Taylor - Pandagon.net
91. Steven Teles - Yale University
92. Thoma - The Economist's View (blog), University of Oregon (professor)
93. Michael Tomasky - The Guardian
94. Jeffrey Toobin - CNN, The New Yorker
95. Rebecca Traister - Salon (columnist)
96. Cenk Uygur - The Young Turks
97. Tracy Van Slyke - The Media Consortium
98. Dave Weigel - Washington Post, MSNBC, The Washington Independent
99. Moira Whelan - National Security Network
100. Scott Winship - Pew Economic Mobility Project
101. Kai Wright - The Root
102. Holly Yeager - Columbia Journalism Review
103. Rich Yeselson - Change to Win
104. Matthew Yglesias - Center for American Progress, The Atlantic Monthly
105. Jonathan Zasloff - UCLA
106. Julian Zelizer - Princeton professor and CNN contributor
107. Avi Zenilman - POLITICO

25. Temmuz 2010, 01:50:05
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Freedom of speech should not be abused or cause harm, spread fear, used to spread hate.
Tuesday: Don't miss the larger point. You don't want the wrong people deciding for you what is and isn't acceptable speech.

25. Temmuz 2010, 00:29:41
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:Freedom of speech should not be abused or cause harm, spread fear, used to spread hate.
Tuesday: who gets to decide what causes harm (your comments earlier caused me emotional harm) and what does spreading fear look like? Who decides that? Conservatives? What makes something qualify as "hate?" How do you define it in objective terma?

25. Temmuz 2010, 00:25:41
Papa Zoom 
Konu: Re:
Ferris Bueller: who sail that liberals are cockroaches and must be killed?

24. Temmuz 2010, 23:34:46
Ferris Bueller 
Konu: Re:

(V) & Tuesday:  Breightbart might can be sued for liable here, but I don't know if there is any precedent for that in the blogisphere.  We don't really have total freedom of speech in the US.  You can be fired from your livelihood based on what you say, etc.  Free speech should be responsible speech, but who decides what is responsible speech? 


Personally, I think telling your listeners that liberals are cock roaches who must be killed is like screaming fire in a theater.  Yes, the person who decides to act in this manner is ultimately the guilty party but the radical radio personality encouraged it.  Its a difficult issue though.  Could turn into a slippery slope where the gov't could take over freedom of speech.


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